Soft touch moving made our move easy. Jose and Scott showed up on time, they called ahead and stated the time they would arrive.They moved everything with care, you can tell they didn't rush just to move items but did it with love like it was their own items. We will definitely use SoftTouch again. read more

I'm a repeat customer and has also recommended them to family and friends. I requested a move and asked about the fees. I wasn't informed that they now charge for shrink wrapping your items. I let them know that I wasn't aware of this and that I would probably not use them again after this move. Instead of being a professional and contacting me, they chose to cancel my move and keep $160 of my money. This is the thanks you get for trying to be loyal to a company. So now I'm stuck without a mover and out $160 + the money I paid to Groupon to use for the move. read more

I 100% do not recommend this place. I hadn't gotten a confirmation so I called at 9:11 to see if I had time for an errand. I was told I should have at least an hour so I went to feed my friends dog. At 9:13 I get a call that they'll be there at 9:30! They sent send a threatening email that if I'm not there in 15 minutes of that time they will cancel my move. I emailed back that I didn't appreciate the mixed messaging and would let friends know not to use them. A woman called me and shouted at me. She accused me of being rude to the driver which I wasn't. I was speeding to get to them so they wouldn't be stuck waiting!! She shouted. Then she hung up on me. I have ptsd and am still shaking after the exchange. This is a very bad company. I'm paying over $200 just to move a few things into my classroom. It's the easiest move ever. So upsetting. They saw my review and made the movers unpack the truck then she said she saw I was a Kamala supporter and deserve what I get. So this is Trump supported business. Beware!! These drivers are not safe from these people. The driver felt so bad and was horrified by what happened. read more

I had Jose and Daniel help me with my move 1 week ago and they were awesome! My window was between 9am-noon for them to arrive and at 1130, Daniel called to give an ETA of 1245. This was just fine for me and they arrived right at 1245. I had worried, was this price too good to be true? All other companies quoted me over $550! I'll just say that hiring Soft Touch for my move was 100% worth it and they were fast and efficient and super friendly. None of my stuff was damaged or broken. They got 5 stars from me! read more

CAUTION! This place scammed us! We were scheduled to move at 6:30AM and no one showed up. We called. We emailed. NO COMMUNICATION. I drove to the address listed on their website (3411 E Corona Avenue, #102 Phoenix, AZ 85040) and it does not belong to them. No signage. It is used by Hana Dispensaries. After no way to get a hold of anyone, we had to move ourselves. This company put us in a real pickle. I cannot imagine if we were not moving locally, had ended our utilities, had work/a place to be, etc. This lack of courtesy and communication is at the responsibility of the owner. DO NOT RELY ON THIS BUSINESS. They took our money and ran. HORRIFIC EXPERIENCE. The owner responded to my review saying to call the number I have called 50 plus times with no answer or call back. He also has not provided an update to the business address and NO REFUND! read more

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DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY. They will charge you up front and then nobody will show, leaving you high and dry, and scrambling to find a solution. They will not answer their phones, nor respond to you. If you're seeing this, just stay away. read more

Although I told the owner I would not post a bad review I've changed my mind. This company is awful. I used them twice to move in out of storage. Every single piece of my wood furniture is scratched and damaged. No response for 3 weeks of emails and phone calls. Took absolutely no responsibility for any damage but offered a $50 refund. But now it's been 12 days and no refund, no response to another email. I had sheets and towels available for the movers to use but they didn't use them. I did my best to cover things as they went into storage but I was clearly in the way and asked to stay clear. "They have a process." I only wish I had read all of these very bad reviews before I hired them. Unless you have nothing but boxes I would not use this company. They may have a good Groupon but if you value your belongings steer clear. These pieces were in near perfect condition. read more

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Rude, unfriendly and lacks any form of proper customer service. Do not bother attempting to get general information as they are reluctant to provide. They do not want or like to answer simple basic questions pertaining to the use their services and are adamant on attempting to obtain your personal NPI. I had informed the lady initially I had a couple quick questions & would call back when I had more time to discuss any specific related items but this wasn't good enough for the representative as she was stuck on wanting NPI rather than trying to help with some basic questions. As a result of her inability to deal with an inquiring customer and attempt to assist, the representative preferred to turn business away and did not attempt to help at all. She was extremely rude and was only focusing on her poor agenda rather than the simple matter at hand to assist and potentially gain new business. Rather, she chose to disconnect a call she did not want to handle. Company should really evaluate their business model or lack there of as this is a great way to lose business rather than gain it. I will not be dealing with this company as a result as I will only pay to support businesses that are trustworthy and customer service oriented. This initial interaction gives great insight into how they handle (or don't) matters and will ultimately mistreat you as a customer. No thx. A lot of better companies worth supporting and letting the disrespectful ones stand where they burn. read more

The team they sent over was not only friendly but also incredibly efficient, despite it being the end of their workweek. It's important to appreciate the hard work these folks do day in and day out, often handling tasks that might seem too much for you, prompting the need to hire help in the first place. The pricing was also very reasonable. I'd definitely recommend them to others. One piece of advice: make sure to get your own moving supplies (like stretch wrap, mattress covers, and couch covers) as buying them from the company can be pricey. read more

Used this company to move in June. I had asked for my furniture to be wrapped, specifically my white fabric couch. Upon arrival, they brought my couch in, not wrapped. It was filthy and worn on corners from them trying to get it into my apartment. It has now been 4 months trying to get ahold of a manager to see if there was a solution. They are now ignoring me after saying they would partially reimburse my couch cleaning service I got done (used Coit a month after moving since I wasn't hearing back from them). Said they wouldn't refund full amount because they would've used a cheaper company. Poor communication & lack of attention to email and verbal instructions for moving. Would recommend finding other moving company. read more

I want to start by saying that the movers who actually arrived to move were awesome and friendly. Unfortunately, the owner was insanely unprofessional and rude. Please watch the video, there is no exaggerating how terrible this guy is. We weren't able to capture the whole conversation but he does say that he records all the phone calls and I really do encourage him to post the rest. Based on how he replies to other bad reviews I think he might lie and say he isn't the owner or that we weren't ready in a reasonable time for our estimate. -The time stamp on my phone in the video & picture during our phone call shows that they were trying to come way earlier than our scheduled time. -If you're not the owner, you wouldn't complain about lost time paying employees. On the morning of our move, we received a call from the moving team telling us their first job had been canceled and asking if they could come by earlier to start our move. We explained that we were grabbing the keys to our new place so that wouldn't work for us and that our scheduled time would still be best. About 5-10 minutes later we got a call from "Steve" saying that the movers would arrive in 10 minutes and that we needed to be ready. Assuming there was a miscommunication, we explained that we had emails with them confirming that our move time was scheduled for 12-4. He then tries to lie and say that no job had been canceled and that his movers were so good that they got done with the first job early. After this part of the conversation goes nowhere, he threatens us that our move will be canceled because there are no extra time slots. When we ask how that could be possible if we were scheduled for 12-4, he doubles back (probably because he didn't think his lie through well enough) and says it's an estimated arrival time. No reasonable person would believe that an estimate would mean over 3 hours before the estimate. If you're a remotely decent competitor, I would poach this guy's movers and if you're looking for movers avoid this place like the plague. https://youtu.be/oEcsngyPZJs read more

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The saga never ends!! Just getting Xmas decorations out since our move with this company & surprise surprise- wreath I have treasured is no longer in wreath container. I was supposed to receive $100 for broken vase - never happened! So many things are suddenly missing or broken. NEVER USE THIS COMPANY OR THIS COUPLE- SCOTT & LISA. They ABSOLUTELY do not take responsibility for theft, loss or damages. read more

Peter, Robert and Jose did a great job moving the entire contents of our home across the valley. They were fast, efficient and provided excellent customer service. I strongly recommend this company. read more

Update, Scott had stated he would refund us but no surprise to us he never did. We had to get refunded by disputing it with the credit card company. Scott runs a shady business and deserves no one's business. I feel sorry for the movers and people that work under him, it's a shame. I suggest everyone go back and read some other reviews as well. He treats his customers with absolute disrespect and dishonesty. Just know if you schedule with Soft Touch they may never show and Scott won't refund it. read more

Looking for an AZ mover to move locally, approximately 34 miles. Soft Touch came up in a local blog I follow with decent ratings. We gave them a call to arrange a meeting to do a cost estimate. Everything was good: set up a meeting with Scott and Lisa (owners) on a Tuesday. Very nice personable couple, they arrived on time, went through the entire house of what to be moved, spent 2 hours. All the pieces that they would be moving were large and needed the tradition wrapping and tapping and in addition, accounting for a few boxes in each room for the estimate. We stressed the urgency of timing, we would like to move in the later half of the following week, in which Lisa stated that the end of the following week would work perfectly. We received the estimate that evening, the cost was reasonable and we were already set to make the deal. We called Wednesday morning to set the date. paperwork and any deposit that was needed and were told by Rachel they were on vacation and wouldn't be back till Friday. We requested a phone call ASAP to let them know they got the job and to set everything in stone. NO phone call response back Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, NOTHING. Really? You are a small business owner with very non professional business practice (you seemingly can afford) Lisa and Scott should have had the courtesy to tell us they were leaving for vacation, knowing our urgency to set up the move. I would also think that you would of wanted the job especially when we were fine with the estimate. Finally, no phone call back AT ALL! You wasted 2 hours of our time, quite frankly. If you didn't want the job you should have been more professional and bowed out from the beginning. There is certainly no "Head Honcho" title in this moving company. read more

The people you entrust to enter your home and move your personal belongings are just not these guys. They're dishonest, argumentative, and showcase a complete lack of care for their customers. Read through their negative reviews and see how they respond, because that's the exact way they'll treat you. Rather than offer a simple apology when I shared my negative experience online, they lied and said it wasn't true. Which humorously enough proves my point that they lack integrity and customer service. read more

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This is one of the worst moving companies out there. My boyfriend scheduled a move and not only did they not show up, but my very frustrated boyfriend called the office and the lady on the phone (we didn't get her name) got into an argument with my boyfriend and was yelling and acting crazy (extremely unprofessional!). She ended up canceling our move that was already 2 hours passed the window time and canceled without telling us (we had to call back to find out that we were canceled). The lady then proceeded to lie and say that my boyfriend threaten her. All he said was that he was going to come up to the business to talk in person and see why the movers were so late. How do you run a business (the lady claimed to be the owner which we doubt because she was so rude and unprofessional) and you don't know where your employees are or when they predict to be done with a trip? How are you not able to contact your employees?? How do you not call or text your customer when you realize that your employees are running 2 HOURS LATE?? Ridiculous is what I call it! When we found out that they canceled our move they told us that they wouldn't give us all the money back??? When it was their fault??? Thank god that we have an amazing bank who gave us a full refund of our money! The story continues though. One of there employees who was supposed to move us started harassing my boyfriend and called him at least 100 times last night saying that he knew where we lived and where we were moving and threatened to show up at our home! How sick and disgusting?! We had to call the police and file a report against the man. He called my boyfriend derogatory and racist names and said disgusting things about what he would do to me saying that he loved me over and over ( I've never seen this pathetic excuse of a man in my life). If you are the real business owner and you are seeing this, contact me immediately. I've been calling and now one is answering even though they are open right now. I left a voicemail. If your employees try to harass us again or show up to any of our homes or even call us, we will call the police immediately and we will be suing your disgusting and unprofessional company! Trust and believe we have some of the best lawyers on retainer and you will suffer greatly. If you are thinking about using this moving company! Please don't! The terrible reviews alone are your warning sign to go else where. read more

I recently used this company for a move. I saw them on Groupon and then contacted the company directly so they wouldn't lose any of the fees associated. I wanted to buy a two hour package, but the sales person encouraged me to do a three hour package stating that I would be refunded for any unused time. I pre-paid all services and associated fees (travel etc). On the day of the move, they arrived without all of the requested materials, and a very inexperienced staff. We had to help move out items form the home to the truck- at both locations- because it was painfully obvious that it was first day on the job for the teen teen worker. I did purchase some extra materials(2 mattress bags) , and for the price of a positive review, I received my $20 back. However, after speaking with the company about the refund and the forced positive review, I realized I had been duped. the mover was very upset when I only gave four stars instead of five for forgotten materials and damage to my doorstep from not putting down door, ramps, and said he didn't want his name associated with it all. Sorry, R! Didn't mean to offend you at all I think you did a great job. It was your helper who wasn't so great and the salesperson giving incorrect information about pricing that led to the less than 5 star review on google that day. Rick gets 5 stars but soft touch as a company earned a solid 2 ! read more

I am writing because I don't think my problem will be solved. Long for short, Do not hire them. Read negative reviews and her replies. Yes, they replied on google, how sweet, I read about the people assaulted by them, I don't want get hurt or anything. I am done with it. Have you ever heard a mover said if you forget to tell them you have a grill, they won't move for you? Or They will leave your other items behind because they took your grill? Yes we had extra kid toys, but we helped to load up and down a lot of things, we did work. Have you ever heard one of the movers saying do not look at me, you are slow me down? Then we left the room, the table completely damaged, and refused to put up for us because it took time. I just wonder how can they do that. It is only 12 mins drive, took them half hour to wrap the desk, then drop it on the floor, and got damaged? All he said is we don't cover. Have you ever hanged up by a mad lady twice? Try them. They arrived at 11:45AM, then complained too hot to work, was it my fault? We did not have lunch until four. Waited whole morning. Three years ago I used them. Last work was finished in 2 hours including 30 mins drive. They were using a tiny truck with a trailer. But this time we did not have too many add ons and only 12 mins drive, took 4 hours, why? And a super big truck won't fit in. Why? They are slow, unprofessional, rude, and expensive. 125 dollars to get to your home, 10 dollars charged even they used our wrapping supplies. 150 dollars for additional 1 mins -60 mins. And in additional time, only one worked for us. The other one stood on the trunk let us carry items. Or fold his pad slowly or took phone calls. We did everything we can to cooperate, when they arrived they said we did perfect work packaging. And me and husband helped to carry items. We even prepared iced water for them. At the end, one yelling that's it all the time. We gave up and wanted to rent a U haul to take left overs, she gave us hope, then broke her words. If she did not say that, I won't be so upset. Then I gave her an offer to fix it. Never get back. See the offer I gave, how hard for them finish the work in the 20 mins we paid? I am hopeless, I can do nothing except reviewing. And say sorry to the ones I referred. read more

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We have used Soft Touch many times and they always do a great job. This was a late in the day move to a home with new carpet and paint. They took extra care to protect everything. Thanks to "Ricks Team" at Soft Touch! read more

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They were on time and wrap my items! They worked with placing my furniture in the rooms and made sure I was happy with it.

I only have one star because I could not post this review without one. My rating for this company is -10 Scheduled a move and they changed my date without confirmation. Aritella was not very nice about the whole situation. I would not recommend this moving company to relocate an animal from a shelter. Now we are left looking for a professional moving company to get the job done! No thanks to Soft Touch Loosers! If your on a schedule do not hire this company or they will show up on whatever day they choose is convenient for them regardless of your schedule! read more

I have never been more disappointed with the quality of a move than with Soft Touch Moving. With my husband and I both in medicine, we have relocated over six times at least. The movers themselves were very nice, however the quality was appalling. They disassembled one of my beds and somehow managed to lose a piece of the bed frame. They also managed to damage all of the furniture notated below. They also moved a fridge into my pantry and made two holes on my brand new hardwood floors. When I discussed the missing furniture with their manager their response was sorry we don't have it. They didn't even care to comment on all the damage to our furniture. That's almost as disappointing as the damage they caused. If you have nice quality things that you value, I recommend going to a different company. read more

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This is the second time we have used soft touch moving in the last couple months. They are AMAZING. Thank you Mario, Rick and Robert! You guys made both moves so great and stress free! They were total professionals with great personalities, professionalism and terrific attitudes towards all the hard work! They went above and beyond to help us get settled. Don't hesitate to use them. FYI, I rarely write YELP reviews, but I couldn't let this one pass everyone by. read more

Worst company ever. Took forever to reach someone after 3 days, and leaving messages during business hours, I finally reached someone who was so rude, I was trying to schedule a move , and found them on Groupon and the cost of moving services are different for the same 2 movers for 3 hours, to show a greater discount, what a scam. They also refuse to schedule a a first of the month special first thing at 6:30am because they charge more, so you can wait until they get to you sometime between 12pm-4pm. Worst customer service, and glad I saw everyone else's reviews, and I didn't go with them for my move. They also nickel and dime you for everything, buyer beware! read more

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Holy moly! Rick and Tony were absolutely amazing! I was really stressed because it took a bit longer to get to my house but when they did, they did nothing but keep me relieved of any stress and packed my stuff as quickly as possible! They were extremely friendly and were very easy to work with under the circumstances - most of us are stressed when moving! Thank you so much for the excellent customer service and amazing team that you have! I'll definitely be using your services again! read more

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Thank you Lisa, Alex, Jason and Enrique for taking good care of our belongings and great care of us. Everything was nicely wrapped and well padded. They even padded our door to protect it from potential damages. The attention to detail and catering to our needs did not go unnoticed. You can tell Alex is very knowledgeable and the whole team were diligent and flexible. Each of them went above and beyond. Truly worth it and highly recommended! read more

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The BEST moving company around AZ!! They called before they were in route, were on time, moved ALL of our stuff (2 bedroom apartment with exercise equipment and a 13 mile drop off) in LESS than 3 hours, had GREAT customer service skills and was VERY through!! We did NOT have to coach them along the way. We would HIGHLY use them again in the future!!! They will not disappoint you at all!! read more

The packing of items from the home I was moving from went very smoothly. The movers (5) were courteous and kept masks on the entire time as requested. However, moving into the new home was very frustrating. I had the movers place all of our items in the living area as we were having carpet replaced the next day. After the movers left is when I noticed a lot of damage to my property. During the move I witnessed one of the movers drop multiple boxes off of a dolly. Luckily nothing in the boxes were broken or damaged. The first thing I noticed was the entry (front) door. There were multiple dings and damage done to the painted frame. The next thing I found was damage to the stucco and an indention was made on the home's exterior. Also, once I started moving the furniture into the rooms from the living area, I found multiple dents and cuts to the interior walls and multiple scratches on interior paint. The movers also lost hardware to various items of furniture. I contacted Soft Touch and left a message. I did not receive a phone call back, so I sent an email. I received a response via email and was told they agreed to fix the exterior walls and door frame. I called and left a message and Lisa called me back. She stated they agreed to repair the damages on the exterior of the home. I explained that there was damage also to the interior of the home and she stated that if I moved any of the furniture that I was now obligated to repair the interior walls. I advised her that it would be impossible for me to know that there was any damage to the interior of the home without moving furniture. She stated that I was still liable for those damages. We agreed that at least the outside needed to be repaired and on July 29th, Lisa sent me an email confirming that they would repair my property damage to the exterior of the home. As of 8/10/20 I have not heard back from Lisa or anyone from Soft Touch movers. I left a message on August 7th and another message today August 10th. I would not recommend this company at all nor would I ever use them again. The charges were not what I was told on the day of the move but about $200 more, and the customer service has not been up to par. ** I have numerous emails of the owner Lisa stating she would repair the issues. I did file a lawsuit in Small Claims court in the North Valley Court. After numerous chances to resolve the issue, the court approved the claim against Soft Touch Moving LLC. You can do a court search and see that not only did they fail to appear, they have also never responded and I received the judgement by default. This was never about the money, it was about the business doing what they are supposed to do and protect their customers. DO NOT HIRE THIS COMPANY ** read more

Office staff was awesome (Kim I think) at answering questions and getting me scheduled. Rick and Victor certainly brought their A Game - they were very quick, careful and extremely friendly and professional!! Prices are extremely competitive and the service is outstanding! I will most certainly use them again if I ever move again. read more

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The guys did a great job. They made he process easier for us and I would highly recommend. This is the second time we have used them and will continue to in the future read more

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I used this company is September and everything went great. They were responsive, professional, and a decent value for the services provided. This time they took my money on a Tuesday and I signed a legally binding contract for services to be rendered the following Sunday. Sunday rolls around and no one ever showed up. I have called at least a dozen times (multiple different phone numbers), emailed, and finally filed a formal complaint with my bank. In my mind, this company committed fraud. They took my money, did NOT provide the service I paid for, and now refuse to return my message and, consequently, my money. Apparently stealing is ok with them. I would never recommend them and caution anyone against using them. read more

Scott and Tom with Soft Touch were absolutely amazing! They arrived on time and packed our entire bedroom and living room in less than an hour. Even with traffic, an hour between homes, and taking apart and reassembling our furniture, they got everything finished in three hours. Scott and Tom were a pleasure to work with and we will be recommending them to everyone we know. read more

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Soft touch moving is absolutely amazing! This is the second time we used them and we're not disappointed once again! Carlos & Rick were so careful in making sure everything was safely wrapped and they even threw a few extra things that we didn't think would fit. They went above and beyond to help us break down our bed and then even rebuilt it! We will definitely use them every-time we move and you should use them too. Their service is top notch and there isn't a better value company out there. read more

Soft Touch assisted with a nonprofit organization with whom I volunteer. The young men, who helped move three households into their homes, were respectful, took care with the furniture and gave wonderful customer service. read more

I received an email week before scheduled appointment to confirm date and time. Today, Received a call from Scott to provide an ETA. Scott & Carlos arrived at the ETA. Both and Carlos are friendly and professional. The process from pickup to delivery was a smooth process. I would use Soft touch and recommend their service. read more

I would not recommend "Soft Touch" to anyone. The movers were nice, but the office manager Lisa was extremely unprofessional. Our conversation ended with her telling me to my face "next time don't be a cheap ass, and get the full value insurance". The workers were nice, and did a decent job, but they broke one of the glass top desks. The glass couldn't be repaired due to the nature of the desk, but the whole desk was only $150 so I asked them to pay the $150 to replace it. I don't think that's unreasonable. At which point she pointed me towards the contract where it says she can pay 60 cents per pound. In this case it would be only $18 or so because it's not a heavy desk. To me it felt like they were cheaping out and screwing me with a technicality in the contract. Yes, contract says 60 cents per pound (the legally required minimum). But I think most quality businesses make things right when they mess up. It was clear negligence on their part and they should make it right for such a small dollar amount. Just showed they don't care about customer after the job is paid for. Still waiting for a call back from the owner, Scott. I doubt I'll get one, but if he calls back and makes this right then I'll remove or revise this review. The main issue is Lisa's rudeness and lack of willingness to take care of a customer when they mess up. I really hope the owner has a different view on how to right a wrong. UPDATE: interesting how Scott classifies me visiting their office as "harassing" their staff. I simply wanted to explain my point of view and see if they can help in any way. I was nothing but professional during my visit to their office, until Lisa told me not to be a cheap ass, then I was less professional. Also, you keep saying I "refused" replacement glass, which is misleading. Due to the nature of the glass, it is not possible to just replace it. I would've loved to have it replaced, but it's not able to be replicated, which I explained to Lisa several times. She must've conveniently left that part out. If you're sticking to the 0.60 a lb ($18), then it's not even worth my time. I don't want to take such a small amount of money for you guys breaking a $150 desk. Let me know if you end up deciding to make it right . You can call me anytime, you have my cell number. read more

The owner Lisa is rude and we got screwed over!!!! DO NOT RECOMMEND! We used the Groupon and still paid $430 for 3 & a half hours. An hour of that was their movers who got lost, but we got charged for it. They broke a leg of our dining table as well just terrible! read more

Mario and Robert assisted me with a move this week from one third floor walk up to another one a couple towns over. They were quick and professional. I ended up losing my keys and while i was trying to find them, they already had everything up at my new apartment door so when i found them, they were able to move everything into the apartment quickly. Great team read more