I have been here about 5 times now and kept meaning to Yelp... however, like many Yelpers, I only remembered to actually post once I had a bad experience. Not good on my part, I know... however, it goes to show the nature of word of mouth business. Before this review I would have rated them as a three star kind of joint. The food is decent, the staff has been hit and miss regarding friendliness, but the drinks are a good price and they have an ample happy hour. None of this has changed and perhaps in the future I will return... probably not, but things have been known to happen.
I originally came here for my search for the best burger in Boise for late night drinkers. For some reason, I often find myself out around 11 to midnight hoping for an amazing blue cheese burger with onion rings. I had the food from their sister bar, Liquid, during Liquid Laughs one night and it was tasty, so I figured that it would be a good shot for a burger filled with yum. With that in mind, I am a smoker. With the nice weather, I have a hankering to drink and smoke and eat and I know how Boise is, so I called ahead. "Yes, you can smoke on the patio" was met with my reply of, "Brilliant! See you soon!" So we headed over and got a spot on the patio, being told that there was only one patio that we could smoke on. Had a burger and some fries and was happy. About a month ago I went in with some friends and again, they said we could smoke on the patio. I have been in and around a few other times and people have smoked on the patio. So, imagine my surprise last night when we showed up last night and were told we couldn't. Not that the rules had changed, but rather, no, you can't smoke. Then the same lady that had talked to us while smoking last time... I think she brought the ashtray even, but I could be wrong, came and told us for a second time that no, unfortunately that we couldn't smoke. They weren't mean or anything, but they didn't seem concerned that we would leave either, so we decided to leave and go across the alley. A simple, I am really sorry for the inconvenience or something.
The problem I have with this is not that we couldn't smoke. Laws change. Management changes. Whatever. However, when you are expecting one thing and then something else happens, it is a let down. Rather than being, "I am really sorry, we can't allow smoking..." it was more like... "No, you can't smoke... " with a hint of "duh!" that bothered me. It was all so non-chalant, "too bad you got to smoke here before and now you can't, sucks for you kind of attitude that I could have lived without". We went back across the street and I saw our original waitress clearing our table and I went back over there (I was still in the alley) and I told her about the woman that was just out being the one last time that said we could smoke, but she clearly didn't care. Okay, cool. I'm not cool enough for them or something. They weren't mean or rude, they just really didn't seem to care. Whatever. Wait, yeah, I don't think I will be back at all.
Do I need to go and spend 70 bucks on drinks and dinner to be given an attitude? Nope. I can do that elsewhere. And it has been about 60 - 70 dollars every time for 3 people to have 2 drinks and dinner. That is pretty pricey for bar food, but I was more paying for the ambiance, a place to drink and be comfortable.
On the plus side, the burgers there are pretty good. Not as good as Fuddruckers, better than Red Robin and the Tilted Kilt. About the same as the place across the alley, Ha Penny. So, I will continue to go across the way where the service is nice, it's less pretentious, and the drinks flow for the same price. I'm shocked, I didn't know the economy was so good that you don't have to bother with being courteous? read more