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Hai Duong

3.9 (418 reviews)
ModerateVietnamese, Noodles, Soup
Closed • 9:00 am - 8:45 pm
Updated a few days ago

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Good for kids
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They close much earlier than posted
Vivian T.

This used to be a go to spot for us but we've been encountering issues the last couple of times which has been disappointing. First encounter was we walked in for lunch and was told they don't have space and that it'll be an hour wait. We looked around and 50% of the restaurant was empty. Fine whatever. We went across the street to Happy Lamb and had a good time there. Second time was tonight when we arrived just a bit before 830pm. Yelp says they close at 9pm but we were refused seating on the premise that they are closed. Not that they care but this is definitely no longer a favorite...we used to come pretty often and we're usually in and out with 30min. We have our go to order and are pretty efficient in finishing our food, paying, and being on our way. We have a Pho 75 that is down the street from where we live within walking distance and may need to revert back to that. We had liked the eden center one initially and it offered a fun little area to walk off our meal before heading home or we could buy groceries nearby but it's more important to me to be able to eat as planned.

10. Bò Lúc Lắc
Andy Y.

Tucked away within the all the shops and restaurants in Eden Center, this restaurant is located in the building right at the entrance off Wilson Blvd. For lunch time on Sunday, every seat was taken. However, the turnover was pretty quick and we were seated within 5 minutes. Once seated, there was a delay in service, but they were very generous and apologetic for the wait, which was not an issue at all. We ordered the Bò Lúc Lắc, plain pho, and Chả Giò, which came out within minutes. The pho broth was tasty and delicious and did not require any additional flavoring. The portions are hefty and enough to share. Parking can be a process as it is within the Eden Center lot, especially for a weekend. Will definitely be back again. Enjoy!

Angela B.

After a little bit of "grocery"/food shopping, my family and I went looking for a place to eat when the original location planned fell through. Folks at a Banh Mi shop recommended Hai Duong. We were not disappointed. The location is on the smaller side, and the entrance is hard(er) to find (it's inside the shopping center). But the food did not disappoint.

Ameena A.

Some of the best pho I have had in the area!!! A close call with my favorite spot- or perhaps even a tie... :D I think about this place and want to return often. As is with many places in the Eden Center, this is clearly a small-family owned business. Cute, clean, simple! Easy and fast service. Although it says "cash only" in some areas of the restaurant (they should remove these signs), *you can actually use card as well.* One note- as a gluten free diner, it is not clear here what is gluten free. I took an educated guess (I'm not sure the staff knew what I meant when I asked about GF) as most pho is GF, but honestly I would have felt more comfortable if things were labeled or the staff knew what GF was - this is the only reason I have 4 stars, so if you're not gluten free, no worries for you!

Ahra J.

If you're in the Eden center area definitely check out this place. It is located in the shopping center closest to the main road and it is one of the first stalls when you first walk in. The restaurant is fairly big so if you have larger parties, I'm sure they will be able to accommodate . The service was very pleasant. They were prompt to get your order and the food came out no later than 10 to 15 minutes. They do also have a large parking lot that is shared across the shopping center, so there's no need to worry about any street parking or walking too far. We ordered the summer roll and the spring roll and both were very delicious and very full of toppings. We then ordered an egg noodle dish, which was also very delicious and the serving of vegetables and meats were very generous, not to mention the size of the vegetable pieces. My friend and I also opted for the pho and the broth was so soothing and clean. Overall, the portion sizes are very generous even for a small bowl.

Bun Rieu
Joe P.

Let's be rieu - you can get pho literally anywhere in the world, but dishes like Bun Rieu and Bun Mam are relatively rare Vietnamese gems that you're not going to find anywhere else in the DMV (certainly not DC, I've looked). Bun Rieu here is likely a light pork broth with some tomatoes, and a slew of proteins (pork bone, cha, crab meat, even a blood cube). It may sound out there, but Bun Rieu is delicious traditional food -- and excellent at Hai Duong.

Annie S.

Top DMV restaurant for sure! We get the same thing every time: - #42, Bun Thit Nuong Cha Gio: rice vermicelli with grilled pork and a crispy spring roll - $16.95. This is amazing, I love it so much. You get a good amount of meat which is delicious on top of vermicelli noodles. They give you a little sauce to pour on it. The crispy spring roll is also fantastic. - Pho - my husband gets this every time. The broth is so good and it is huge! - #3, Cha Gio, Crispy Spring Rolls - $5.95. I love these and they are fried! Great for large groups, they have long tables they can put together. Parking is easy because it is in the Eden Center and the parking lot is huge. No bathroom. Price is very reasonable.

10. Bò Lúc Lắc
Lynda D.

One of the more popular restaurants at Eden Center easily identified from the outside with their nice marbled storefront. Their menu is quite large, they have something for everyone from noodles to rice dishes and even items to share as a family meal. Portion sizes are great and food is flavorful. I tried the Bo Luc Lac, shaking beef entree and the beef is very tender and cooked well.

Tricia T.

Located in the Eden shopping center, the parking lot is large but can be very busy! The shop itself is a little tight and they do not allow strollers. I had my baby in an infant carrier on the floor and one of the employees told me to place him on the table for safety...but then told me no put him in the chair...so I was a little off put by that beginning situation. However, the employee I ordered from was fun and efficient. The bún bò huế was delicious and I don't have any complaints. They were accommodating at the end of the day and our food came out fast.

63. Cháo Vịt ($16.95) - Vietnamese Duck Rice Soup
Kristen H.

Eden Center is well-known for its dense and competitive Vietnamese food scene, so Hai Duong's long-standing presence here speaks volumes about the authenticity and quality of its offerings. Our group of six originally planned to dine at Rice Paper, but due to an unexpected extension of their vacation closure, we pivoted to Hai Duong--and I'm glad we did. Tucked just inside one of the indoor entrances of Eden Center, Hai Duong is a no-frills space with ample seating and a clean, casual atmosphere. At 6:00pm on a Saturday, the restaurant was about half-full and we were seated immediately. Service is brisk and efficient--our food arrived in under ten minutes. The menu is impressively broad, spanning from familiar staples like pho (with over a dozen variations!) and spring rolls to more traditional Vietnamese fare such as Bánh Xèo and Bún Bò Huế, and even more adventurous dishes featuring pork blood, heart, and tongue. Whether you're in the mood for rice, noodles, or soup, there's something for everyone here. I opted for the #63: Chao Vit ($16.95), a Vietnamese duck rice soup that's essentially a savory congee with a deeply flavorful broth. It's served with a side plate of duck salad: tender pieces of dark and light meat on the bone, laid over a crisp, refreshing salad dressed in a tangy vinegar-based sauce. You can mix as much of the duck and salad into your soup as you'd like, creating a warm, rich, and texturally complex dish that's both comforting and satisfying. Duck isn't something I often see on Vietnamese menus, so this felt like a rare treat - and the portion was more than generous for the price. Other standout dishes from our table included the Mi Xao Chay ($18.95), a heaping portion of braised tofu atop a nest of crisp vegetarian fried noodles, and the Bún Hai Duong ($18.95), which features rice vermicelli topped with grilled pork, shrimp, shredded pork, and crispy spring rolls. These were all hearty, flavorful, and well-prepared. While the pho and spring rolls were more standard, they were still solid and satisfying. Some in our group remarked on the rising prices of Vietnamese food, remembering a time when dishes were under $10. But as someone coming from Seattle, where a bowl of pho can easily cost $25, I found Hai Duong's pricing quite reasonable - especially given the portion sizes and quality. All in all, Hai Duong is a reliable and authentic spot in Eden Center for a Vietnamese fix. The food is fast, flavorful, and varied enough to keep you coming back to try more. I'll definitely be returning.

Pho Tai Bo Vien with side tripe
Dinh D.

This is a pretty good spot for Vietnamese food at Eden. The service is good and the food comes out pretty quick. The interior is what you'd expect with a good amount of seatings. They have a pretty large variety of Vietnamese dishes.

crispy egg noodle with beef
Francine A.

Such a huge variety of food, both classic and unique! This one is always a hit whenever I have visiting friends & family who want to check out Eden Center. Never too overcrowded, and fast service. An extremely solid place that is consistent.

Cha Ca Thanh Long
Julie S.

This is a great option for authentic, homey Vietnamese cuisine. I have been a frequent diner here for many years and the main reason why i return is the consistent quality food you can expect here time after time. Service is typical of most Vietnamese establishments... straight to the point and efficient. This last time I had their signature dish... bun cha Ha Noi ( Anthony Bourdain's favorite) and the cha ca Thanh Long. Bun Cha Ha Noi was delicious like always. The meats were tender, bursting with flavor and with the added char from the grilling; it was divine!. The broth that the meats marinates in is also out of this world! You have to get this dish when you come here. The Cha Ca Thanh Long comes out of a sizzling plate with filets of fish topped with dill. You eat it with vermicelli noodles and fresh greens. This was another hit for me. I am not usually a fan of dill but paired with the fish; it was delicious.

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This is the only pho place I go to in the entire DMV. I don't even want to try any other places. It's that good!

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Good portion sizes and quick service. The spring rolls and pho were great. The lemongrass chicken was a little dry but the flavor was good.

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4.5(516 reviews)
2.0 mi•Falls Church City
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I really don't have a lot of experience with Vietnamese food, so my friend recommended that I try…read moreboth a more homey restaurant and a fine dining option. Nue was the fine dining recommendation, and I have to say it was a great introduction to Vietnamese cuisine. As far as parking, there is a garage within walking distance of the stores and restaurants, so parking was pretty convenient. The restaurant itself was beautifully designed. It was dimly lit, spacious, and had a really nice atmosphere. Our waitress was also very knowledgeable about the menu and offered some great suggestions, which was especially helpful since I wasn't very familiar with Vietnamese food. The menu was pretty expansive, and I have to say some of the cocktail descriptions immediately caught my attention. I tried the Lychee Sunset Fizz, made with Hornitos Blanco Tequila, lychee liqueur and lychee, calamansi, yuzu and grenadine. I tend to go for sweeter drinks so this was a nice balance. For food, the Seafood Chả Giò was one of my favorites. It had wild Gulf shrimp, lump crab, Berkshire pork, taro, carrots and fresh herbs. It definitely seems to be one of their headlining items because it was something I noticed quite a few people ordering, and I can see why. But my absolute favorite was the Snow Crab Fried Rice. It had hand-pulled snow crab, shrimp, shallots, eggs and oyster mushrooms, and it was so flavorful and filling. Honestly, I regretted not ordering another portion to take home because I would have happily eaten it again later. All in all, I would definitely return to Nue to try some of the other items on the menu. I'm definitely not finished with my Vietnamese food journey yet, but this was a really great stop along the way. If the Snow Crab Fried Rice is any indication of what's still waiting for me on the menu, I have plenty more to explore.

I've been here twice. I really love the creative fusions of eastern and western cuisine at this…read morerestaurant. Their flavor profiles are quite phenomenal. However, some of the portion sizes could be better for the 5-course set menu. I believe it was $80 when we went in Sept 2026. We got the papaya Caesar salad, cha gio, hamachi crudo, main entree, and mango che dessert. Everything tasted great! But the cha gio was just 1 spring roll cut into 2 pieces, put on a PLATTER of herbs. It looks like a big plate but it was just 1 spring roll. The crudo again was elaborately plated but it was 1 tiny piece of fish. The fancy sauces it came with were a waste because the hamachi was barely a bite. My friend got the crispy chicken with coconut rice. I got that the first time I came and loved it. I wanted to try something new so I got the Bo Kho papardelle. It was just ok. I would not get that again. And the dessert was good. Overall, my 2nd visit was a bit disappointing due to the tiny portions for the price of the meal. Our waiter also disappeared half-way and came back for the bill. 20% is already included in your bill. I always tip 20% or more but with it already included in the bill, there's not much incentive, I guess. It was around 12:30pm on a Saturday and the restaurant was not that busy. Our waiter said he was on break... I wouldn't go there again unless it's for a celebration, initiated by someone else in my party.

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2.0 mi
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For me, the absolute best pho in the area is from Pho Sate--hands down. I know everyone has their…read moreown favorite spot, but this one has earned my loyalty year after year. The broth is consistently flavorful, the portions are generous, and every bowl is just as comforting as the last. Whether I'm feeling under the weather, recovering from a long night out, or simply craving a warm, satisfying meal, Pho Sate is always my go-to. I can never visit without ordering the fried pork spring rolls, either. They're perfectly crispy, packed with flavor, and always hit the spot. The consistency is what really keeps me coming back. After all these years, they've never disappointed me, and that's hard to find. I'll happily remain a faithful customer for as long as they're serving up bowls of pho.

Somehow came up online as the best pho in the area and this isn't even close. Maybe Im snobby being…read moremarried to Vietnamese and frequenting Little Saigon back in the Bay Area but this is bad bad. Service was super weird - I intentionally say weird because I never expect good service at an asian restaurant like that just isn't a thing. Its the fact the server was trying to rush our order in pressing us if we are ready when he literally JUST dropped the menus off. How would we know what we want when we didn't see a menu? Came on a Saturday afternoon and they were out of most things. No pork, no wontons, like how? These are staple things here but okay. We ordered the combo pho, the duck cotnfiet with egg noodles, the kids pho, and cha gio. Never had such a bland cha gio in my life where all it had was pork and taro? No carrots or mushrooms or seasoning? Pho was seriously skimping on portions and the flavor was bland. My duck was pretty good but we won't be back. Look at the demographic calling this place good/frequenting this establishment- let me tell you, they arent Vietnamese so...

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Hai Duong - vietnamese - Updated October 2026

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