I'm writing this to try to help people because I got burned by my housing and pool contractor initially and never got any good advice. If I first used OC Poolscapes from the start I probably would have given them less than 5 stars because there are so many aspects that take time and coordination I wouldn't have realized.
If you don't want to read all this, make sure you get a pool company that has over 50 employees, has been in business for 3+ years and they have many active jobs. Many smaller contractors just shut down the business if something goes wrong and open up a new one. Long story short, my housing contractor 5 starts yelp and houzz took off on me, 1st pool contractor lied about who they were, didn't call dig alert, hit an electrical wire, stole 70k and bailed on the project also 5 stars on houzz. I didn't think someone 70 years old would lie about their contracting license. A large company can cover losses if something happens.
First off, I see people trying to get someone local. The city inspector who checked our house said we should hire a local pool builder. I'm in Palos Verdes and while we were doing the engineering design, revisions, plans, the city even told me they were very impressed with OC as most pool companies couldn't do turn arounds on plans as quickly and as well. They also passed everything on the first inspection with the hardest inspector of the city. This was a complex design with many slopes.
A smaller pool company probably wouldn't have been able to do the job. The city told me they tried to explain to the previous contractor like 10 times what had to be done, but she couldn't understand the complexity of the retaining wall and the slope. OC has their own engineers and if something is super complex they have engineers, soil specialists they can contract and lawyers if there are issues with the city. We faced a lot of hurdles with the city and engineering plans and after interviewing and working with about 10 other contractors, none of them could have done this. Before OC, we've personally met with the city at least 50 times on construction items (house and pool) and inspections, so we can really appreciate the job they did.
Every GC will say they can do it for less, they'll say anything to get a large contract and try to figure it out later, after getting ripped off we talked with about 10 contractors, when we pressed, most didn't have the civil engineers to do the job.
Also many of these smaller companies can't make your pool and backyard pop. The coping, equipment, lighting, tiles... Look at their instagram page, make sure it pops and it's not a pool from the 90s. If your contractor says they're so busy they don't have time for an IG page, move on, with large contracts they need to know how to run a business. OC did things like make a flush transition from family room to outside, other contractors couldn't do and said the city wouldn't allow, they just didn't know how to make a linear drain.
The wait time between crews is a pain, but they send 20-30 people and actually it's a little better to have the concrete settle and find possible issues. My housing contractor was super impressed by the way they did it and the size of their crew.
While I waited for Edison to move my electrical line I interviewed many other companies, I thought I might go with another large one, but they took 2 months to finalize the design and doubled the original estimate. With OC pools I was always able to contact them, even after hours. Anytime I wanted a call, they get back to me soon, even after the sales process and after hours.
There are some things they could have improved on and with anyone you do need to follow what they're doing and make sure everything is going as planned. You need to make sure anything said verbally is reflected on the plans and the plans are updated. They're working on a lot of projects and they'll forget. Any contracting company will be like that
Lighting and Landscaping I wish they would have pushed me to get that done and planned instead of last minute. They would good on the suggestions on the lights we needed though. Also wish they would have written instructions on how to adjust the pool/spa water levels.
We did mini-pebble - even after the sanding it's a bit rough to walk and sit on for the kids. For me it wasn't much of an issue, but for some people it is rough. There are many other options.
The arch and swing are well worth it, I'd add that if you can.
The tiles they budget for are great, I thought I'd go over the allowance for tiles from the quote because we're very picky, but no. I'd suggest doing tiles. Also the turf they use is top quality and you can pick the style.
Overall Jose got the pool ready for the summer, still some things left, but any other company wouldn't have gotten it done. They have a problem with too many customers and they'll probably figure it out, but it's better than working with a company that could go bankrupt on a mistake.