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Manhattan Lighting Design

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Mike came to quote me for adding a Tesla charger etc to my garage. Very rude from the get-go. I was…read morepeppered with questions, but he didn't seem to listen to the answers, came across as arrogant, and interrupted constantly. Worst of all though was that he didn't seem to have a full grasp of the relevant electrical code, despite supposedly himself being an inspector, and clearly hadn't read the Tesla charger installation manual (see attached picture). He said he would install #6 romex wire (no conduit) as he has done in many other installations. But romex wire is only rated for a 60°C temperatures (not 90°C like say THWN-2 wire). The tesla installation manual on page 5 states "If installing for maximum power, use minimum 6 AWG, 90° C-rated copper wire for conductors. NOTE: Upsize conductors if necessary" https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/support/charging/Gen3_WallConnector_Installation_Manual.pdf Supposedly Mike has gone through Tesla's training for installing the wall charger. I guess he wasn't listening in that class. When I pointed out the minimum #6 wire specification from the Tesla manual, he stormed off and left boiling with rage. For those that are interested, the following thread explains why #6 romex is not code compliant for a 48A continuous load like a Tesla Charger: https://forums.mikeholt.com/threads/tesla-charging-station.2561702/post-2709508 Anyone who has had the misfortune of having their tesla charger installed by mike using #6 romex would need to reduce their breaker size to 50A and set their Tesla charger to a lower 40A max charging rate to not exceed the ampacity of the #6 romex. ------- Update following Mike's reply: NEC 240.4b is irrelevant and raising this as a justification for ignoring the instructions in the Tesla Wall Charger installation manual just further highlights Mike's lack of understanding and willingness to accept and correct his mistake. 240.4b relates to the breakers (OCPD). The issue here is not the breakers, it's whether the wire connected to the breakers is rated to pass a CONTINUOUS current of 48 amps (the max charging rate of the Tesla charger). NEC 210.19 Conductors-Minimum Ampacity and Size is key here and says: "The conductor ampacity may require other correction or adjustment factors applicable to the conductor installation. a.Where a branch circuit supplies *continuous* loads or any combination of continuous and noncontinuous loads, the minimum branch-circuit conductor size shall have an allowable ampacity not less than the noncontinuous load plus *125% of the continuous load*." Perhaps Mike does not realize that a Tesla charger is treated in code as a continuous load and therefore requires a 125% adjustment factor in the current? If the continuous load is 48A, then 125% of the continuous load is 60A. By Mike's own admission below, #6 Romex is only rated for 55A, not 60A, so it's too low of a specification. Putting a 55A capable wire on a 60A breaker, doesn't magically make the wire able to handle more continuous current. Sure you can save a few bucks by installing #6 Romex instead of #6 THWN within conduit, or even #4 Romex, but doesn't meet the requirements of Tesla and it doesn't meet code. Here's NEC 210.19 for anyone interested https://www.productinfo.schneider-electric.com/na-std-ref/5c0fee4b347bdf0001de4d55/Conductor%20Ampacity%20Tables/English/Data%20Bulletin%20-%20Conductor%20Ampacity%20Tables%20(bookmap)_0000264293.ditamap/$/NEC210.19ConductorsMinimumAmpacityA-F20BBAC1

Rafael and Steve were courteous, professional and knowledgeable. Excellent work. On time and neat…read more Definitely recommend for big jobs and small.

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