Gorgeous interior and great selection of gowns. Be sure to check out their collection before arriving because they will pull the dresses for you. Varied price range and the stylist was respectful of that when choosing! read more

Alice in Ivory is amazing. This is the third bridal salon I visited and found the one here. Victoria is so sweet and helpful. Their selection of dresses is BEAUTIFUL and so unique. They have the standard ball gown dresses with some very unique and gorgeous picks. I would highly recommend. Everyone there was so nice! Dresses are priced decently moderate too. read more

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Our visit was to pick out a wedding dress for my daughter. This is the fourth wedding dress shopping trip I have been on in the last 5 years, 12 showrooms. All very successful! This was hands down our worst experience. They would not let us look at any of their showroom dresses on our own. They selected what we tried on and only from one designer. We have a flexible budget so this was very frustrating. There was only one attendant so we had to stay within her sight. We successfully selected and purchase a gown at our next appointment at Mira Couture. HIGHLY recommend, I recommend you go ANYWHERE but here. We did purchase ours from Mira Couture and I would HIGHLY recommend them. This is only the second negative review I have ever left anyone or place, it was that bad. read more

This was my first stop shopping for a wedding dress. Lexi made this experience so comfortable and productive. She is very knowledgeable and gave me tons of advice. She started me off with 7 dresses and then pulled more based on my responses to those original dresses. I never felt any judgement towards my reactions or responses to the dresses I tried on. I left my appointment with 2 dresses that I love and felt no pressure to make a final decision right away. I highly recommend Alice in Ivory for a very positive dress shopping experience. read more

I had my first dress appointment here, which seems like a rather stressful event. However, Alice in Ivory was amazing and made the experience so comfortable and fun. Meg is so kind and pulls a variety of dresses that will compliment your body at whatever budget you need. Dresses range from $2500 to $6000+. They have a wide variety of styles and fabrics to suit everyone and anyone. I was not pressured into buying anything and was able to see what kind of dresses I like and don't like to at least have a comparison for further appointments, even though I did find a dress I loved. The location itself is beautiful. I would recommend this place to anyone that doesn't know where to start looking, and to those that know what they want as well, because Alice in Ivory probably has it. read more

This was the only bridal store I went to when shopping for my wedding dress! I found the one here! Before making my decision I was able to come in to try on a few of my favorites from weeks before with someone else. The women who work here are professional and not pushy at all! They listen to the budget you have and definitely ask before even considering grabbing a dress out of budget. They help find ways to save money on many of the dresses, too. So glad I came here! Only complaint would be that booze is not allowed. My experience lacked the celebratory champagne that I know my mom and I would have loved- even if we brought it! But it's not allowed. Also, I want to suggest that they get a new "I said yes to the dress sign" because the letter board just isn't what many brides who post online want to use. It's outdated. I definitely suggest coming to Alice in ivory! read more

I had the absolute best experience with Alexis! My mom, sisters and future mother in-law went to Alice in Ivory as our first stop of my whirlwind dress shopping day, and she have us HANDS DOWN the best experience. Alexis was accommodating, knowledgeable, and very patient with my large group/family asking her a million questions, while also throwing lots of different dresses and looks her way. She kept me calm and comfortable while she and I were in the dressing room together ( I was a bit more nervous then I expected) and she was honestly just the nicest, sweetest stylist that we worked with the entire day. She made me feel like a gorgeous bride to be and helped me when she could tell I wasn't loving something- we'd move right along and put me back into the dresses I loved. The store is impeccably designed and maintained. The dresses all shine, they are well maintained and easy to peruse when you're picking out ones to try on. It's just the sort of place you DREAM of when you think of wedding dress shopping. Seriously cannot explain this enough. Run, don't walk, to visit Alexis and Alice in Ivory. I wish I could try on dresses there every day :) (Also- random side note, but my mother-in law is in a wheel chair, and the store is also very wheelchair accessible, which was shockingly very hard to find throughout the city). read more

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Went to 3 bridal shops and had the MOST amazing experience at Alice in ivory by far! They care about you finding the right one for you! Amazing selection and the store is beautiful. I worked with Lindsey who was amazing!! Thanks again! read more

Alice In Ivory - Bridal Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

When initially searching for my dream wedding dress I came across a dress from a designer that was no longer made or sold but I l absolutely loved it! I became so desperate to find that dress that I even reached out to the designer themselves to see if they had any in stock. I then saw that Alice in Ivory used to have an extremely similar dress from the same designer in their store and when I contacted them they had one sample of it left. Tara was my consultant and answered all of my questions via email prior to my appointment-this included even sending me photos of the dress in advance. During my appointment she made the process extremely comfortable and relaxing but also made it very special for my Mom and I. She was just as excited about the dress as we were! After purchasing the dress, Tara provided me with recommendations on where to get the dress altered and cleaned and even gave me two gift cards to one of the recommended shops. I could not recommend Alice in Ivory enough to any new brides! read more

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Before I was even engaged I knew I wanted to go to Alice in Ivory to try on a two-piece dress from Katie May's Noel & Jean line. I'd been stalking the dress for months until it was finally my time to try on the dress. I was really wishy-washy back and forth with Kaylee through email trying to coordinate an appointment for my mom, who was coming in from Michigan. I think we had about 30 emails between us by the time of the appointment! Kaylee ended up squeezing me in for a quick try-on of the dress before my mom came to visit (I couldn't wait!). The appointment was about 30 minutes and I tried on two or three options. It was a very quick in-and-out. Lee Anne was my associate, and I thought she was great at the appointment. When my mom and I came in to try on the dress, the vibe was a little different. I had a different associate (I can't remember her name,) and Kaylee was in the shop. The associate made me feel rushed. We were supposed to have an hour appointment, and she was under that impression that we weren't. I felt like she was trying to push me out of the dressing room. They also allowed a few window shoppers to come into the shop while I tried on dresses, which was off-putting. I knew that the Noel & Jean dress was the one. While ordering the dress, Kaylee chose sizes based on the measurements Lee Anne took at my first appointment. The top was a 14 and the skirt was a 16, which seemed very off to me considering I nearly fit in the sample size and probably only needed to size up a size or two. Being a naive and giddy bride, I didn't really think much of it. When the dress came in three and a half months later, I'd lost about 20 pounds (unexpectedly - due to cutting out alcohol!) and I was terrified to try on the dress. Lee Anne was in the shop that day and helped me into it. Sure enough, MUCH too big and I was very upset. We tried on the sample size dress just to remind myself what I looked like in the dress and it fit perfectly. Lee Anne was great and assured me that if the alterations shop I'd chosen didn't think they could fix the dress (which needed to be completely reconstructed), that she would figure something out for me. After three appointments and a month of alterations, the dress didn't fit me properly. I felt pressured by the seamstress that the dress was perfect. When I tried on my dress five days (5 DAYS) before leaving for my destination wedding, I contacted Alice in Ivory and Lee Anne called me. I was in tears, but she reassured me that she would figure something out. Kaylee and Lee Anne decided that they would give me the sample size skirt, they would have it professionally dry cleaned for me, and that I could have it altered. They suggested The Dress Doctor. Lee Anne called all of the vendors, told them the story so I didn't have to, and continued to reassure me that everything would be okay. Lee Anne is absolutely amazing, and I would recommend booking your appointment with her. While I was disappointed about the sizing issue of my dress, I think that Lee Anne went to great lengths to make it right and I couldn't be more appreciative of her. read more

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I didn't end up buying my dress here, but the appointment went well. Pros: the appointment was very personalized, and the whole shop was reserved especially for me--this was one of the only bridal salons I went to that did that! The set up of the salon was beautiful and well maintained. Cons: I felt that they didn't have a large enough selection of dresses in the $1500 through $2500 price range. Also, many of the styles here in this price range were a bit too bohemian for my taste, as I wanted something more classic (although that's not necessarily a con for other people). I would certainly recommend checking out Alice in Ivory if you're into a bohemian look for your wedding dress. read more

I had only been to one other bridal store before going to Alice in Ivory, but after seeing the same old dresses, this shop was a breath of fresh air! Their selection is beautiful! And I received so many compliments on my dress. I'm still in love with it and wish I had a reason to wear it again. Not only are the styles here gorgeous, but the space is beautiful, welcoming, and the girls that run the shop have years of experience behind them. They were able to guide me and offer handy tips and tricks (including where to get my gorgeous gown altered). I had a wonderful experience here and would highly recommend them to anyone in the market for a gorgeous/ one-of-a-kind dress! read more

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This is a kind of different review - I am not a client but my best friend was. She loved the dress she found at Alice in Ivory and had a seamless experience - tragically, her fiancee passed away before the wedding. When I called on her behalf for options I thought the best thing they could do was resell the dress on her behalf - instead they issued a full refund and were so incredibly sweet and kind. This is NOT easy for a custom order dress. I'm not getting married anytime soon but I would fly to Chicago to give these amazing people my business in a heartbeat. THANK YOU TO LEXI, THE OWNER AND EVERY AT ALICE IN IVORY!!! read more

Alice in Ivory made my wedding dress dreams come true! The staff, the selection and the store - this is the go to bridal boutique in Chicago! Shout out to my amazing stylist, Alexis! Thank you Alice in Ivory team!!!! read more

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Very unpleasant experience and do not recommend this salon at all. Take your money elsewhere. Alice in Ivory was my very first wedding dress shopping experience and the staff could not have been ruder. I understand this is their day job but I wanted my day to be special and they couldn't have been less interested in my experience. Prior to my appointment, I received a harsh email listing out all the things I could not do while at the salon in bold and red. Every other store I visited called me and learned about my style prior to an appointment but Alice in Ivory could not be bothered. On top of their overall rude approach to my appointment, there wasn't any flexibility in number of guests allowed. At the time of my appointment, Chicago was fully re-opened without any Covid restrictions. I called and asked for one more guest above the 2 person limit and was very quickly rejected. I offered to have all guests wear masks and show proof of vaccination. I also offered to come in at an off time to allow other appointments to remain comfortable. Nothing was enough and when I asked to speak to the manager she refused to get on the phone with me. After all the back and forth, I decided to cancel my appointment. Less than 5 days later, they changed their rules to allow more guests so, in my opinion, the entire ordeal was unnecessary. While the dresses are beautiful, the staff's overall approach to such a special day was really upsetting and for that reason I think everyone should not waste their time here and give other salon's that truly care about their customers the business. read more

Unless you're a smaller size, I wouldn't recommend Alice in Ivory for a try-on. The dresses hardly fit me, and I'm a street size 8-12, which made it incredibly difficult to see what they would actually look like on me. The stylist didn't clip me or adjust anything either so as to help out. Bummer since I was so excited to go here! read more

Highly recommend for a wonderful dress shopping experience! The consultants are all so friendly & helpful! They let you look around and pull things you like and they have an absolutely gorgeous space with amazing lighting! Definitely one of the best spots in Chicago to find your dress!!! read more

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Alice in Ivory makes you feel like the princess in a fairytale!! Everyone at Alice in Ivory is so nice and they are truly experts in the wedding dress space. They took my venue and wedding vision and recommended dresses that fit perfectly!! They have the most unique selections of dresses!! If you want the experience of a lifetime you need to check them out! read more

So... don't make this your first stop!!! Grace was amazing and their selection of designer gowns is better than we saw anywhere else. Grace is a woman you want to be. Hip, knowledgeable, kind, helpful, in charge. She is awesome. I had to hug her twice. I was very close to buying the very first dress that I tried on. (It was actually an adorable pantsuit with detachable skirt). We tried a number of great options in a range of sizes and styles. It was the most pleasant of all of my appointments. Go anytime, of course, because it's a great place. It might help to have eliminated some options before you arrive. For me, I was too naive when I went, so didn't know enough about color, shape, size, etc. So, just go! It's a great salon!! read more

Alice in Ivory was the most gorgeous bridal store. It was a private intimate experience and the staff members so professional and helpful. I couldn't recommend this place more! read more

I got married back in 2017. It was so easy to schedule an appointment and everyone was so sweet to me and my family! Everyone is so patient and helpful with picking the perfect dress. They were able to help me get in contact with the design team of my dress when I ran into an alteration issue a few days before my wedding! I would give them a thousand stars if I could! Shop local! read more

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I visited the store with my mom and maid of honor shopping for my wedding dress. The appointment reservation process was super easy online. We arrived to the space a few minutes early to find we were the final appointment of the day. Bri, our stylist, happily greeted us and got the appointment started right away. The space itself is beautiful and really adds to the overall shopping experience. We were encouraged to look through the dresses ourselves and indicate what we wanted to try on. The changing room was very spacious making the try on process easy and comfortable. The dresses are very fairly priced for well known bridal brands such as Haley Paige. Our budget was around 3500 and we had an easy time finding some beautiful options well within this range. I ultimately found my dress elsewhere but highly recommend checking out Alice in Ivory as you shop around! read more

I had gone to a couple of different bridal shops and Alice in Ivory was by far and away the best experience I had! Lindsey was so helpful and had already pulled the dresses I was interested in while being knowledgeable about all the rest of the options as well. Their selection is so gorgeous and I felt like they paid attention to what I was really saying before suggesting anything. The area that you get for you and your guests is so nice and the natural light is some of the best in the game to see what you really look like. I purchased my dress in mid-September and received it a couple of weeks ago and WOW their attention to detail in packaging my dress was amazing. The value is outstanding with personal touches like a card from the shop and a jewelry dish as well. My dress is even more gorgeous than I remember (they keep all their dresses in great shape even with people trying them on all the time) and they put it in the nicest hanging bag. I would recommend going to Alive in Ivory and having Lindsey help to everyone :) read more

I loved my experience with the associates here. Everyone was very friendly and professional. I ultimately did not buy my dress here due to my fast approaching date, but I was able to try on a few dresses they had available to sell. My experience was great, everyone was helpful and had great advice and really made me feel special and the center of attention. Since I was working with a short amount of time before my date it really felt all hands on deck. I would recommend this location to anyone in search of a dress. They have a beautiful selection and make great recommendations based on your taste and their gowns are affordable. read more

This place was stunning. They have a wide selection of dresses. The stylist was super nice and welcoming during the try on process. The dressing room looks magnificent. It's an amazing experience to try on dresses. They have a very good rush policy for a last minute dress a couple months before the wedding date. read more

I recently went to Alice to search for a wedding gown and I was thrilled with my experience. The showroom is so beautiful and the girls that helped me were so friendly and fun to be around. They listened to my likes and dislikes and made me feel very comfortable. Highly recommend ! read more

I was so impressed with this bridal boutique and my consultant, Gretta Schell was so wonderful as a coach through the process!! I booked the appointment with a very specific style in mind and a very specific price point. Gretta was very laid back and at no point did I feel any pressure to move outside of the zone we set as far as price. She was also very honest about what looked amazing (and what didn't) which I appreciated! The boutique had a great selection of styles and within my specific designer as well. Would HIGHLY recommend including Alice in Ivory as your wedding boutique - such a great experience all around that my family will be talking about for years to come! Thanks Gretta!! read more

Before I got an appointment at Alice in Ivory, I had been to about 10 other bridal shops in Chicago with no WOW factor. I knew what I didn't want, but couldn't seem to figure out what I did want for my wedding day. Little did I know, the perfect dress was waiting for me at Alice in Ivory! (along with several other options I would have been completely happy with) Their Lincoln Park location was pretty, but their new location in the West Loop is unbelievably gorgeous. Grace is an absolute DREAM. From beginning to end, I felt like a queen. I was able to pull dresses I was interested in and she pulled options she thought would be a good fit for me. She answered every question I had regarding different designers and dresses with personal knowledge of each designer and options they offered. She was so patient as we discussed pros and cons of each dress. She's incredibly professional and has a way of making you feel like she's an old friend helping you find the perfect dress. She was as invested in me finding a dress as I was. The experience exceeded every other appointment I had prior and I would highly recommend Alice in Ivory to any bride! read more

I had an incredible experience here! First of all -- the store is BEAUTIFUL. I came in on a snowy day and felt so comfy and cozy inside wearing the slippers that are provided at the front door. My stylist (I forget her name) was so nice and fun, striking the perfect balance between being laid back and letting me explore on my own and offering advice and presenting options. The selection is unreal with dresses for all styles. I went in knowing exactly what I wanted (after trying on at least 80 dresses) and walked out with something completely different that I never would've even tried. I am so thankful for my experience at this boutique, for finally finding my perfect dress, and for meeting such sweet and genuine people. read more

Worth stopping in! I did this store as my 2nd appointment. My consultant wasn't very helpful in selecting dresses so luckily I knew the style I liked. She also allowed me to chose dresses way over my price point.. which was slightly disheartening since they were amazing and out of my budget. Samples were the dirtiest I've seen compared to other shops I went to- probably due to the volume of appointments they have, but it was distracting. Overall the shop had a ton of selection and recognizable brands. Be careful to tell them your price point and check the dresses before you put them on. My consultant couldn't answer many of my questions on ship time or customization- she admitted she only worked there on the weekends for fun- which was kind of weird but she was perfectly nice and the appointment was fun. I would recommend going here but have your style or a designer in mind beforehand. read more

You guys: Lindsey at Alice in Ivory is so good. This was the second bridal shop we visited. After a disappointing day one (I tried on 12 dresses and felt pretty meh about all of them), I had resolved that the OMG moment I was anticipating was a naive notion, and that I would have to be content with just liking a dress very much. I was wrong. Lindsey greeted my mom and me graciously and asked about my wedding and my style before giving us a tour of the space. The store itself is magical and the selection is amazingly curated. It is clear that Kaylee has a relationship with every designer, and that the team has hand-selected every dress in the store. Even the gowns I didn't like at all felt very special. We were also allowed to bring all the gowns I chose into the dressing room at once, so we could edit the order in which we were trying on based on what we were liking on. The OMG moment came as I tried on the very first dress. And the second dress. Dress after dress I felt like could be the one. Lindsey was patient as we overanalyzed each one. I never felt rushed or pressured to continue; she gave thoughtful feedback without adding to the already diluted collection of opinions. She was knowledgable but not suggestive. She is clearly very good at what she does; I could sense that her style of service is dictated by the personalities in the room. I would imagine she would be very comfortable taking the lead with a group that was less opinionated and less sure of what they were looking for. Above all, she was incredibly kind. I ended up purchasing that first dress, a set of Rime Arodaky separates, and I am so pleased with them. We came back to the store later in the day on a whim to make the purchase, and Lindsay was so accommodating by letting us know exactly when she had a break between appointments. I would recommend Alice in Ivory to any newly engaged lady in Chicago who's looking for something special and outside the realm of traditional bridal. I would be shocked if you didn't find something. Thank you, Lindsey! read more

Unfortunately, I did not even get a chance making it into the store, because I ended up finding my dress elsewhere before my appoint here. However, I did still want to leave a glowing review for Kaylee, who was so welcoming and accommodating over our email correspondence. I made an appointment request on their website, and Kaylee sent me a personal email back in under an hour. She was honest and upfront about pricing and let me know my options for what kind of gown I was looking for, while accounting for my budget. She also worked with me to book an appointment while my best friend would be in from out of town. I was honestly very excited to go to my appointment here! If Kaylee offers this great of service over email, I can't imagine how fun it must be to dress shop in her store. read more

I recently went to Alice in Ivory to try on dresses for my Wedding. I worked with the stylist, Grace. She was so wonderful. I had four people with me and she really elevated our experience. She made me feel super comfortable while trying each dress and was even snapping photos for me on my phone. The dresses I tried on were all super intricate. Grace did such a good job of pointing out all of the details on the dress that I would have missed. She was super knowledgeable about all of the dresses I tried and was in no way pushy at all. Definitely one of my better stylist experiences. Though I did not purchase a dress at Alice in Ivory, it stands out as one of my best wedding dress experiences, which I don't think would have been possible without the help of Grace. Thanks again! read more

This was such a wonderful experience and Haley was amazing! The dresses were beautiful and she really listened to what I was looking for, was patient and so helpful. The shop was gorgeous: bright, clean and so cute. I'm not sure why some are complaining about the covid rules- it was not a hinderance and is part of what everyone has to work with these days. Cannot wait for my dress to come! read more

From the moment we walked into the shop, my sister felt so welcomed and special. The shop was beautiful and the pedestal in front of that wonderfully ornate mirror was so perfect. Christine did such a wonderful job including our whole family on our sister's special day and we had a fun time picking out styles for our sister. Christine was attentive to our sister and helped her think out each dress she tried on. When my sister found the dress she loved, Christine made sure that any reservations/questions that my sister had about the dress were addressed and answered. Christine was diligent and cognizant. She really helped craft the experience for such a major purchase for such a special day! We didn't feel rushed, the dress options were gorgeous and my sister found her dress! It was such a beautiful experience for the whole family. read more

I cannot say enough good things about Alice in Ivory! From the moment we walked in, the women made us feel so comfortable and were SO FUN! Kaylee the owner greeted us, and even though we had to wait a few for my consultant to finish with the previous appointment, we didn't mind. Kaylee offered us champagne and water while we waited. The new salon in West Loop was GORGEOUS-so dreamy! When Lexi was ready for us-I was a little nervous but so excited! I came specifically for a Rue de Seine dress-I had been stalking the brand for a while! They had a trunk show for the new Wild Heart collection. Lexi was so helpful, and asked all of the right questions to make my appointment easy and efficient! I tried on about 10 different dresses. It was my first bridal experience, and I would not have changed anything. I walked out buying a perfect boho dress and unreal veil, and I can't wait to wear it for my June wedding! THANK YOU to the entire Alice in Ivory team-I could not have dreamt of a better experience! My family and I keep talking about how perfect it was. :) read more

I got married in May and purchased my dress from Alice in Ivory. They were wonderful throughout the entire process. Honestly I was not one of those brides who obsessed over the PERFECT dress....I didn't want a big production and didn't want to try on ten million. But my experience here was great! They were helpful but not pushy, always responded quickly, and were super sweet!! read more

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I cannot say enough about how wonderful my experience was with Kaylee at Alice and Ivory. First of all, Kaylee was so responsive from the moment I emailed until my dress was purchased. Even after when I had questions about alterations and how to travel with my dress, she was full of ideas and thoughts. My appointment with her was at 6pm on a Sunday. For someone who works weekends in catering, Sunday is the last day you want to do anything, especially at 6pm. Kaylee was so accommodating and patient with me. She asked for me to send photos/names of dresses ahead of time to get an idea of what I would like. She had tons of dresses waiting for me based on what I had described. I was so impressed with her attention to detail. We had just come from another shop and I was feeling pretty disappointed. I wasn't finding anything I loved and they hadn't done their homework the way Kaylee did. It was a bit overwhelming. So when I walked in to dresses Kaylee had hand-picked for me, it made feel so much better instantly. She had listened to me and took the extra step to personalize my experience. Now the dresses. How could you go wrong with any of the beauties living in this shop? They are all so unique and special, you can tell they hand pick everything that is presented there. The store itself is gorgeous as well. If you are looking for a special, unique and personalized experience go no further than Alice in Ivory. You will be so happy you did! read more

Long overdue review. First, I purchased my dress from Alice in Ivory in November 2019. I went to maybe 10-12 other bridal stores previously in my search to find the dress (yes I'm that girl). My experience with Alice in Ivory was amazing from start to finish. My bridal specialist was so helpful in picking out dresses. She let me keep re-trying my dress as I was trying to decide between my final two. Not every bridal shop is so nice. I didn't feel rushed at all. I cannot remember her name now, but she was so personable, friendly, and I actually felt so comfortable which isn't always easy when you're having someone dress you while you're in your undies. My original 2020 wedding date was postponed to June 2021. So when I picked up my dress I just put it in my basement to stay there for nearly a year. When I finally opened the bag this year to get my dress altered, I realized that the shop never gave me the veil that I purchased. I called the store immediately and they gave me no issues whatsoever with sending over a new veil at no charge with free shipping to my house so that I had it in time for my wedding. I thought that was so nice and I had felt like a total dummy for never checking my dress when I picked it up. I was scared of maybe looking at it too much, and falling out of love with it. Happy to say that did not happen. I loved my dress so much and I was complimented by every single person at my wedding that the dress was stunning. I would 100% recommend them for anyone looking to find their perfect dress and get the amazing bridal shop experience. read more

I loved my experience at Alice In Ivory! I tried on my dress several times before making the final decision and all of the employees were always very friendly and helpful. They made the experience so much fun. The boutique is super cute and all of the dresses are gorgeous! This was by far my favorite bridal boutique and couldn't even compare to the others I went to. My dress and veil were perfect once it arrived! read more