Obnoxious line now. I remember when I use to come and could ride this thing like 5 times in a day. No longer. If you don't have the money to buy a ridiculous fast pass then you don't get to go. Even thou you spent 250$ per ticket just to get into disney. read more

SPACE MOUNTAIN, you still got it!! It feels like it's been a long time since I've ridden this ride! It still looks the same but over the years, some of my favorites from my childhood (see my scathing review of Pirates of the Caribbean) haven't held up. Space Mountain, thankfully came through! The wait was not bad, 45 minutes, and we were routes through an entrance that I'd never seen but once you see the ride, it seems like you're on the ride! Once you're in the "lobby", it's a quick walk to the ride! The whole ride is dark with lights and effects which are meant to simulate a ride through space and it really does GO! The pace is fantastic, you can't see well enough to make out the turns and the length of the ride is altogether SATISFYING! . Incredicoaster is still my favorite and I'm trying not to hand out 5 star ratings unless they're deserved and Space Mountain, especially for an older ride, TOTALLY DESERVES IT!! read more

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One of the best rollercoasters in all of Disneyland!! The wait times for Space Mountain is always long, so hubby and I usually do Disney After Dark events to jump on this ride. This ride is SO much fun but is not for the faint of heart. You will be catapulted into darkness and speeding through the the space and stars. Be sure to be ready to pose at the end because you'll have your photo taken here. I personally also love hyperspace mountain and ghost galaxy too. Both are really fun overlays they have during certain times of the year. read more

Wow, wow, wow! Talk about a great dark coaster and making it better with more immersive effects such as computer generated imagery. It is no wonder they can do seasonal overlays of this attraction. This is definitely one you must lightning lane if you don't get it first thing in the morning. You still have a bit of a wait but nowhere near if you get on in the standby lane. As you walk on the gantry level you are parallel with this giant spacecraft that hovers over the entry platform. Once you are assigned a row move quickly to secure your belongings and get strapped in. This ride wastes no time in getting you on your voyage. Going up the first accent ramp you head through a tunnel of blue parallel lights with space age sounds. You are then hurled up the ascent ramp covered with stars and red lights as you prepare for you ultimate blast off with more space age music. From there all you see are stars but the ride hits you with sharp turns, sudden drops and twists. You have no idea where you are going until you enter the multicolored lights re entry area where your vehicle slows you down signaling the end of your journey. Somewhere along the ride a camera captures you in the midst of the action for a free download when you exit. It truly is one of my favorite coasters I like to ride at Disney. It can go up to 35 mph in speed. The Magic Kingdom counterpart: Equal-Space mountain in the Magic Kingdom has two different tracks with vehicles running at different times as you make your way up the hill with a Space station that is above you. There is no 2nd ascent ramp, just the long one leading to the top.The seating is different. There you are seated Matterhorn style in a group of three whereas here you are seated two across. It alerts you as to how long until you blast off. As you approach the top prior to blastoff you can reference the moon at the top as your focal point once your vehicle starts its wild ride in the dark. The ride at the Magic Kingdom is equally as vicious however at the end you get to take a slow moving walkway through a futurist area. Still having an immersive experience is one I cannot beat. I've heard this ride gets a Star Wars overlay in May. Would be great to try it out then. Located in Tomorrowland in Disneyland Park. read more

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The lights flashing as you're beginning your space launch, the music playing as you careen through space catching glimpses of spiral galaxies and stars all around you, and the screams of guests are such positive highlights of this ride. This is a 10/10 must-ride during any visit read more

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Highly recommend getting a fast pass for this ride because the wait can be long. Unfortunately there will be no Ghost Galaxy this October but hopefully it comes back next year. It's one of the main reasons for me visiting the parks during spooky szn. Nevertheless, the ride was still enjoyable. It's two people in a row for the coaster. It really picks up speed throughout the ride. The unpredictability of where the ride will go is thrilling due to the lack of lights during the ride. If anything it's a fun spot to take a seat after walking long treks throughout the parks. Lot of nostalgia riding this ride. Don't forget to smile at the end of the ride for the picture! read more

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Over the years, still one of the bests rides at Disney. Navigate through a vast futuristic space station as you make your way to Mission Control. read more

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We waited at least 90 minutes in an endless line because the ride broke down. It was worth it! This is one of the scariest rollercoasters you will ever ride with hairpin turns at ultra fast speeds. Even though you're riding inside a tube with flashing lights and sound effects like Stanley Kubrick on acid, it might cross your mind, "What if this thing derails??" They hustle about 20 people into cars every :20 so once the line moves, it moves fast. Once the bars lock you down, the ride begins. And they're on a timer and they expect you to offload just as fast (or it leads to the ride breaking down). One of the best rides at DisneyLand. Do.. not.. miss.. it! read more

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If you like rollercoasters then this is for you! Space Mountain is often a highlight on any trip to Disney for me. Disney also does fun little updates depending on the season - in May it becomes a Star Wars-themed Hyper Space Mountain ride, and during Halloween Time it's Ghost Galaxy-themed. If it's not entertaining a special theme for a season - it's dark inside! You can't see the track, but you see lights throughout, meant to mimic - you guessed it - stars in space! This one is a fan-favorite so try to score a lightening lane selection earlier in your day (they go fast!), or make this one of your first stops in the day after park open! read more

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Ride always gets shut down as soon as you are at the front. Same thing has happened to me 3 times. Spent around 2 hours in the line each time. I would not recommend this ride at all. Don't ride if you don't wanna waste your time. read more

Once you pull down the lapbar, away you go into the darkness. An incredible soundtrack starts to play as we head up the first lifthill. The suspense keeps rising as we then head into the StarTunnel. And while it isn't nearly as cool as the one in Florida, it's still neat. We then head into a 2nd lifthill with the music CONTINUING to anticipate us MORE AND MORE. We then rise up into outer space as we head into a turn which goes pretty fast (Or at least it feels that way since really.... we're only going at 2MPH. It only feels like we're going fast because it's so dark and there, awesome music is BLASTING in our ears, are fans blowing wind at us which is supposed to give the illusion we are going fast. And this is only a PRELIFT SECTION! Imagine how fast the actual ride is gonna go. Oh boy I'm REALLY looking forward to this!) We then head into the third and final lifthill as the speakers start to count down from 10 to 1. At this point, our hands are in the air and we are anticipating the inevitable! "COME ON START THE RIDE I'M READY TO GO!!!!!!!!!" Suddenly, our wishes are granted and we head down the first drop! Although it's not big, it's still awesome since we feel like we're FLYING down the drop! We then head into a series of left turns which makes us feel like we're going through a Nascar race as we feel like we're going INSANELY fast! Eventually we keep doing this until the music has a 1 second pause and we hit a small dip. What's so special about this you may ask? Well, AIRTIME! Now granite, it's not Twisted Colossus airtime, but It's AIRTIME AND IT'S GOOD! PLUS IT'S IN THE DARK!!!!! We keep shouting "OH MY GOD OH MY GOD THIS IS AWESOME!!!!! YES YES YESSSSSSSSS" before we hit a right turn and another left turn with the song about to reach its climax before hitting the brake run where we smile for the camera. We then see some cool flashing lights and then we head into the station where we can't help but applaud. So yeah, this coaster is just flat out INCREDIBLE and it absolutely blows it's Floridian Sister out of the water! Heck, this is probably my favorite family coaster of all time! Really my only issue with it and why it's not getting a higher score is that it's a family coaster and I only give 5 stars to the absolute best coasters I've ridden. And while this is a VERY good coaster, I've ridden better. But still, Space Mountain is an awesome coaster and I HIGHLY recommend you experience it. It's just so much fun and it's easily one of the better coasters out there! If the line is long, you can still get free fastpasses or just go Single Rider which will reduce the wait time substantially. Even if you have to wait, it will be WORTH IT. I PROMISE! Oh and make sure you check out Hyperspace Mountain for their Star Wars-themed overlay where they add new projections and add a different ride soundtrack to the ride (They had another one called Ghost Galaxy but stopped doing it after 2018. Really sad about that). Final Score: 75/100 Opened June 27, 1977 Manufacturer: Dynamic Attractions Last Ridden: September 13, 2019 read more

The only way is to pay. The line was 60 minutes and it doesn't move. You stand and stand and suddenly move a few yards then 5 minutes of standing still. Just like the freeways, 60 minutes is a long time if you stop completely for 5+ minutes. We had the lightening pass and for some reason we didn't use it on the ride. This was a mistake. Buy the pass and use it properly. read more

It's a classic. It's usually my first ride every time I visit. The wait time is usually kinda long, definitely worth with the lightning lane pass. read more

One of our favorite rides in Disneyland! My boyfriend and I love repeatedly riding this. Even though it's dark and we can't see anything, and it's supposed to feel like you're riding through space surrounded by stars, the ride is very thrilling, fun, and smooth! Remember to smile! Your picture will be taken. read more

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There really is something about rocketing around a roller coaster course in near pitch black conditions, isn't there? Although I have heard that Space Mountain's top speed is only around 30mph, there are times when it feels much faster. The ride seems to pick up speed as it progresses further along, and the duration of the ride feels longer than I remember...but it has been quite a few years. Sure, the aesthetics are a bit dated, and there are more "modern" future-looking, sci-fi rides throughout the park (particularly in the Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge portion), but it's hard to beat the classics. This is still my wife's favorite ride in the park, and easily in my top 5 as well. There's *always* a queue, but it moves pretty fast, and (in true Disneyland tradition) is never as long of a wait as quoted on the signs out front. An absolute must ride, at least once, on every Disneyland trip! read more

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What a mountain of space! I love this ride. I've been obsessed since I was a kid. Constant amazement and happiness to ride Space Mountain! This ride is filled with thrills. Fully immersive. I can ride it 20 times!!!! #1 magical time. read more

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I actually haven't been on this ride in ages, since most of my friends get motion sickness afterwards, I didn't want them to be put through the trouble. SUPER lucky to have been able to experience this ride during the cast member preview as a +1. HUGE MIRACLE it was only a "5 minute" wait and my friend didn't mind going around shopping and waiting around. It was NOT EVEN a 5 minute wait, I was able to walk right on the ride and when the ride was over, I was able to walk on again. Barely any people, absolutely insane. I guess since I haven't been on this ride for so long, I forgot how fast it was (or maybe for some reason it was much faster on this day), but it was definitely fun, exhilarating, and one of my fav rides in the park. Lovely to see the stars and just zoom around in a circle. Was laughing and having fun all the way ! Would definitely wanna try this ride during the Halloween season. read more

Space Mountain - Actually a 5 min wait where I could just keep looping on the ride - Amusement Parks Near Me - Anaheim, California

It took like four hours to get on one ride in it. Space Mountain it was so bad. I got so bored I felt like I was gonna pass out. read more

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I don't know if it's nostalgia or not, but this is my absolute favorite ride at Disneyland. The combination of the dark and the tight turns make this simple ride thrilling. This ride typically book ends my day at the park. It's a great one to get on first thing to avoid wait times. read more

Space Mountain reaches speeds of 32 mph and requires riders to be 40" (102 cm) or taller. Experience an exhilarating roller-coaster journey through the darkness, racing to the edge of the galaxy and back. Your photo is captured during the ride, which you can view later in the Disneyland app. read more

One of the fastest Disney rides, this old classic still delivers. Renovated now and then so it looks good and the Star Wars themed May the 4th reskin is the must visit time. read more

We waited in line for 2 hours while the app said 40 min wait time. It was because the ride broke down but instead of making an announcement to not waste everyone's time they just let us be. read more

When I first rode Space Mountain, it was the same time as the movie premiere of 'Escape to Witch Mountain' with Eddie Albert, Ike Eisenmann, and Kim Richards. Imagine my surprise that Space Mountain is nothing to do with Witch Mountain. The complete darkness of Space Mountain at that time was a huge disappointment but as I rode it again recently, I marveled how an fully enclosed and in the dark rollercoaster could function and function so well. Sure it's a little jerky at the beginning but after that's it's a complete mystery as you don't see a damn thing except a couple of stars. I would be very curious to ride with the lights on, or at least with them flickering. Perhaps they would destroy the mystery of being in the dark but Space Mountain is a true original and is a must ride at Disneyland. read more

Long lines, but it's fun. If you hate roller coasters, you might not like this one. It has a small drop, and at one point, it goes super fast read more

Do you like to have fun in the dark? You need to go on this ride. This has always been one of my favorites. read more

I survived and didn't yak up my Plaza Inn Fried Chicken! After lunch, I met up with Yelper Alana M., and we headed over to Tomorrowland. Alana suggested riding Space Mountain and I was gamed since I had never ridden it before. Externally, I was excited, but internally, my stomach was screaming "What the hell are you thinking?!" Lol! Space Mountain is located at Tomorrowland next to Alien Pizza Planet. The wait time for this ride was 35 mins for us. In between waiting, there's a cashier stand that sells bottle water and will hand you a face mask if you forget yours. They previously had Single Rider Line, but I believe it is no longer available, bummer... Once you make your way to the bottom, you'll hop onto your ride, pull down the handlebar and enjoyable the ride! This is the fastest ride at Disneyland, full of twists and turns with small dips here and there (no major ones, whew!) and this ride is completely in the dark, mimicking outer space and the twinkling stars. It's very pretty inside (in between me closing my eyes and screaming my lungs out, hehe!). Towards the end, you'll get your picture taken and some people have the funniest poses. The couple in front of our ride was adorable with their kissing pose, hehe! After the ride, I definitely felt like I experience an outer body experience - feeling very lightweight and most grateful that my lunch didn't come up, lol! All in all, I had a blast on this ride and looking forward to going on it again another time! read more

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It was fun that it went fast but the nearly pure blackness wasn't for me. It was just boring without any visuals.

Hyperspace Mountain is one of my daughter's and I favorite rides in Disneyland. It is located in Tomorrowland, in the corner of the theme park. The building is relatively large and is next to Planet Pizza. It is Star Wars themed. You're essentially in a space battle. It's dark and lit up with star light features. It's a dark ride. It has sudden turns, drops. If you have pain in your neck or back pains, you should avoid this ride. It's fast and loud, with lots of star wars sound affects. My daughter and I usually go on this ride through a fast pass. We typically don't wait in stand by as the waits can get between 1 hour - 2 hour depending on the time of the year. Just a tip, the seat and lap-bar are small. Don't feel rushed getting your personal belongings out of the ride. I did this by mistake and jammed my elbow on the lap bar as it came up. It was excruciating painful. Super fun ride though! We would try to ride it at least once a day. read more

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Definitely one of the best rides at Disneyland!!! Make sure to keep an eye on the wait times through the Disney App! It will beat waiting 2+ hours in line when it could be a 30-45 minute wait early morning or late at night. P.S. Remember that there is a single-line rider (for those who don't mind splitting up from their group) and these lines go crazy fast! OR...Just get Genie+ for $25-$30 (depending on the day) and then You are free to explore, eat, ride, or rest while You are waiting for Your lighting lane reservation :) By the way, Space Mountain has a special Star Wars theme during May, not only do they change the name of the ride to "Hyperspace Mountain" but they add some cool extra stuff during the ride! I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but I'll add that there are TIE fighters somewhere ;) read more

Hyperspace mountain's music is now Star Wars themed! Its really cool and so much fun. The classic coaster is still there but the new theme makes it new again. If you do the Disney Max Pass for the day, I suggest you get the fast pass for this ride. The standy-by wait times can get pretty high in the 70 min range. I've loved this ride since a kid and hope they keep it forever! read more

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Don't know what all the raves about this ride. Opening sequence is one of blasting through hyperspace, similar to Disney World's Rock and Roll roller coaster in the dark. . Space Mountain has very fleeting glimpses of shooting stars and hyperspace travel, but is otherwise is often so dark that you can't see the head of the person in front of you. And then there is the currents of cold air blowing on your face. Since when is there air in space? The original ride opened up in 1977, and I rode it in 1984, at a time when there were lots of faint lighting images of space travel, with the roller coaster structure very visible. You could tell where you were going, by following the images of the cars in front of you, unless you were in the coveted front seat. In 2003, second wife and I came here on our honeymoon, only to see the ride closed until 2005, when the entire track and roller coaster cars were torn up and replaced. Last time I was here in April 2018, wife and I got fastpass tickets. I let her use my fastpass ticket so she went twice in a row in 20 minutes. Went there again earlier this week, and knew I was in trouble when I didn't see anyone near my senior age in the audience. Buckled up into my seat, ready for countdown. Music from Star Wars: The Force Awakens piped in through the speakers. The starship buckles and blows off the starting line. G forces push me back into my seat. Circular lights in a tunnel turn faster and faster, as the starship accelerates into hyperspace at a maximum 28 mph! Stars shoot on by like in a tunnel. Sharp turns and sudden plunges, with centrifugal forces keeping me from exploding out of my seat. Wind blows into my face in the dark, to simulate decompression, from a puncture in outer hull of the starship. The starship plunges out of control, turning and twisting, but never going upside down in a spiral like you would think. Suddenly the darkness fades with the star lights going slower and slower. It ends as quickly as it begins, 2 minutes 57 seconds later. I'm safely back on earth, back to reality, with my lunch still intact inside me, lucky for my wife riding in front of me! read more

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Another great ride you are in the dark the whole entire time going through space. It's a inside rollercoaster that is dark, loud and very fast. We enjoyed the entire ride!! Another must go on ride!!! read more

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Ashley and Nora are hands down the most kind cast members at this attraction. They were so sweet. Ash told us about a bunch of cool secrets about the park, so cool ! 10/10 read more

Space Mountain - Modelo time foo - Amusement Parks Near Me - Anaheim, California

It's been through some changes through the years but I still think it's one of the best rides in Disneyland Park. Don't @ me. No, it's not my personal favorite though it does rank second. Pirates takes that honor. Space Mountain is a lightning-fast roller coaster thrill ride through the stars, located in Tomorrowland, Disneyland USA. Back in my day (90's kids where you at?) it was pitch black inside this ride. You couldn't see your hand in front of your face as you came out of the launch bay. Now we have a slightly lighter set up, and during Halloween time recently they've started doing the Ghost Galaxy version of Space Mountain, which features different music and spooky special effects. This I experienced on my last trip to Tomorrowland, and at the time I hadn't yet experienced the trend of Halloween-themed attractions. It's cool, new, and different but I would say it doesn't compare with the original version of the ride. So, as far as this ride goes, you must give it a go when you visit. I recommend firstly MaxPass, but if you didn't pay extra for it be sure to secure a FastPass for the ride if you want to skip long lines. The Single Rider line is another option available if you don't care about being together with all your buddies on the ride and in the picture at the end. I wouldn't ride this if you have back or neck issues. Lastly, I would like to highlight my favorite part of Space Mountain as it exists today: the Star Wars travel destination posters that line the hallway from the ride that spits riders out into the gift shop. Ah, nostalgia. It does my nerd heart good to see those posters time and time again. read more

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I will always love this ride. And I finally know exactly when they take the picture. It took me a while! Curious if anyone can tell the difference between the regular ride and the ride during Halloween. I feel like the ride is much faster during Halloween... anyone else fee that way? Such a fun exciting ride! Always makes my eyes water though lol read more

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Space Mountain is soooo fun! Unfortunately the long line to wait for the ride is not so fun. The long line tells you how popular this ride is. If you get to the park early in the morning, I recommend running over to hopefully get a shorter line. If not, maybe you can get a fast pass for an early return. If you love this ride, get a fast pass and also jump in line to ride it more than once! Occasionally Disney will add some temporary variation to the ride like Ghost Galaxy or Hyperspace Mountain. I guarantee they are all fun!! I typically won't jump in a long line but if there is a variation or I just want to ride, I'll try to get to the park early or try to grab a fast pass. Sometimes I'll wait if it's 45 minutes or less. As a warning, this ride breaks down. I know.... that's not Disney magic. Usually the ride isn't down for long but you need to decide to wait for the ride to come back up or give up your hope of riding Space Mountain for awhile. The ride is an enclosed turning roller coaster. Since you're supposed to be in space, you will find that it's very dark on the ride. There are stars shining all around you. Depending on the variation of the ride, there might be different graphics projected at different parts of the ride. If you are brave, you can ride hands free with your arms high up. Of course you can always hold on tightly to the safety bar as well. Yes, it's fast and you are turning constantly. It seems like some of the rides are faster than others so keep that in mind as you ride it over and over again. At the very end, be ready to smile since they take a PhotoPass picture. So for Space Mountain you wait in line to ride and it goes super fast so the ride is over pretty quick, but it's absolutely worth it! It's a great ride for those who enjoy roller coasters!! read more

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This is hands down the top 2 ride at Disneyland beside Splash Mountain. Space Mountain is probably the fastest ride at Disneyland and the closest thing to a rollercoaster. The wait line can be long at this one because it's very popular but the day we went, the wait was only like 5 minutes even though it says 30 minute on the sign. They requires masked to be worn at all times so be aware of that. During the ride, they will usually recommend you to take off your hat so it doesn't fly away. There a little pocket in front of the seat for you to put your stuff in. I saw that on special occasion, they would turn on the lights during the ride but I think it's way better with the lights off so it makes you feel like you're in space. read more

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My kids favorite ride. My son used to never want to go on but now he loves it and Space Mountain has always been one of my daughters favorite rides. I think there is something about being in the dark and being a roller coaster that makes you feel like you are going super-fast. Each twist, turn, and dip feels just a little scarier when you can't really see what is coming up ahead of you. I remember years ago they did various overlays on the ride. Of course they still do Hyper Space Mountain for Star Wars days but years ago they did an overlay with music of the Red Hot Chili Peppers and I think that was the best. Even though the track is the same the different sounds and music make the ride feel different. We also miss the Halloween overlay this year, the creature is scary but so cool during Halloween. The ride is a bit bumpy so I would stay away of you have back and neck issues (not as bad as the Matterhorn however, that is a very bumpy ride!). read more

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Such a thrilling, quick, and exhilarating ride! This is a rollercoaster in the dark with twists and turns, dips, and lifts-off-the-seat moments! The wind hits the face so hard that it feels so cold! There are times that it feels like gravity pulls the contents of the chest out! Uhg! Space Mountain is a popular ride with a Fast Pass option because, sometimes, the waiting time is over an hour! Whew! During Halloween time, this ride gets spookier! It turns into Ghost Galaxy! Don't miss it... it's located in Tomorrowland! read more

Space Mountain - Inside...waiting... - Amusement Parks Near Me - Anaheim, California

My favorite ride in Disneyland is Space Mountain. It has been my favorite ride in the park even since I was tall enough to ride it. Space Mountain is the signature attraction of Tomorrowland and is considered one of the 4 "mountains" in Disneyland, with the other three being Splash, Matterhorn and Big Thunder Railroad. It is the second version, closely modeled after the attraction in the Magic Kingdom. The attraction serves as a space station and the ride itself is supposed to simulate space flight. An astronaut, Gordon Cooper, was hired on as a consultant to try to accurately yet safely portray spaceflight given the unique circumstances. It first opened to the public in 1977, with a reopening in 2005 after an extensive remodel that resulted in an overhaul of the track, car and improved special effects. For a time being there was a Star Wars overlay and this attraction was briefly called "Hyperspace Mountain". Now due to Galaxy's Edge being open the attraction has reverted to its 2005 version. The ride is an indoor roller coaster lasting about 3:00. Because it stimulates space flight, it's a dark ride so all you see is the stars plus the light effects in the beginning and ending portions. Wouldn't recommend it if you're claustrophobic or susceptible to motion sickness, though it's not as fast as one would think it runs. Because Space Mountain is one of the most popular rides in the park, some strategy is required so that you're not waiting in line for an insane amount of time. It's one of the few rides where I would not only just get a fastpass, I would make this ride one of the first or last rides you go on. Going on first there's always less people, while if you go towards the evening an hour or two before park closing the line goes by more quickly *and* the ride speeds up! With Space Mountain being my favorite ride, I try to go on it at least once per visit. So far I have always managed to do so. (PS: I say that this is my favorite ride having tried "Rise of the Resistance", but it wouldn't be fair comparing both as I consider the latter a different experience altogether). read more