Oceanside pier is one of seven beach piers in SD county; and is the longest wood pier on the west coast. The front concrete entrance is old, being built in 1925 while the rest of the pier was rebuilt in 1988. The pier is 1,942 ft long. There is a Fish Tin restaurant at the lower entrance to the pier and a Ruby's Diner at the very tip of the pier. There's also a little trinkets store mid span. You will also find restrooms on the pier too. The view from the pier is awesome and even better at sunset. I've heard the pier is great for fishing bass, guitar fish and halibut. The pier is well lit for nighttime fishing. The pier is open 24hrs. Walking under the pier presents the opportunity for some really spectacular pictures, I have seen many weddings parties and family being taken at sunset with the pier as a awesome background. I am rating this pier a solid five stars because of its location, how well it's kept and the simple fact that that it's free! read more

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094 / 100 - 2017 YELP 100 CHALLENGE. Gorgeous place to stroll through or sit down and enjoy the view! My parents and grandparents visited over the holidays and my husband and I decided to take them here for a quick rendezvous. We originally found this place by eating at 333 Pacific (great restaurant!) and had always wanted to come back, so this seemed like the best opportunity for it! There's a parking lot across the street from the pier and it's about $5 for the entire day. A steal, especially when you take in consideration the distance. The Oceanside Pier is also located in downtown Oceanside, so if you park in that lot, you can walk to wherever else you want to go or visit. Pretty good imo. The day we went it was nice and sunny, but windy. My grandparents wanted to sit and enjoy the view (they're much older and have trouble getting places), so we (my husband and I) decided to stay with them while my parents explored. It was a gorgeous day and lots of people were at the beach. After a while my parents swapped spots with us and we went on the pier. At the end of the pier is a Ruby's Diner. We had already eaten so we weren't interested, but the walk was great! I think they've closed off a section to get on the pier, but everything is still wheelchair accessible. There are tons of people who are fishing with their kids and even a shack/store where you can rent a rod and buy some bait! There were two pelicans chilling on the railing which was neat, but they're mean af and will try to bite you if you get too close lol. I settled for a cute picture instead. We didn't get to stay too long as my grandparents were feeling tired and wanted to go home, but Oceanside Pier is definitely a place I would love to revisit again! If you're in the area and want to walk off whatever meal you've just shoved into your face AND enjoy the sunset, Oceanside Pier is probably the best place you can do it. read more

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This little pier is nice for a short walk, and if your hungry at the end of it is Ruby's! It's definitely not as entertaining as the Santa Monica pier, but there were a few people singing and playing the guitar. Every time I come here I see the same two pelicans always in the same spot along the pier, which I think is pretty neat. read more

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I recently walked all the way to the end of the peer and was amazed by the incredible view. How fortunate are we to have such an incredible landmark here in Oceanside. read more

We've been going here for years and love it so much. We live only 10 minutes away and if we could live on the strand, we would. There is something to say about being close to the ocean that brings peace and tranquility. Recently, it's has gotten so much better with the restaurants and the parking structure that they built. The buildings on the other hand are eyesores but that's just to show that Oceanside is starting to show up on the map (both a good thing and a bad thing). My family used to fish here every Saturday morning and I'm glad to see that there are families still continuing that tradition with their children. This pier is the longest wooden pier in this side of the coast. Last night, we were able to join a few friends who celebrated my friend Lindsey and I's birthday together and walk the pier and share memories with each other. For whoever wants to enjoy a free time exploring and exercising at the same time, I highly recommend this pier. read more

This was my husband and I's first trip to California after moving to Arizona from the East Coast. We had the best time. We stayed at a nearby Motel 6 and we were able to walk down to the pier to see the sunset. And boy, we weren't disappointed! We saw the most amazing sunset, and had a great time taking pictures. Only downside was that our dog wasn't allowed on the beach with us. Most other beaches in the area were dog friendly. You're able to walk them on the sidewalk that runs parallel to the beach, but not on the sand. Our dog loves the water, which is exactly why we brought him. No worries - we were able to find other beaches nearby which he thoroughly enjoyed. Walking on the pier was wonderful during the evening when the crowds start to dwindle - had only a slight issue with parking but were able to snag a spot as someone was leaving. Would definitely recommend! read more

Great view, calm waters, crowd is a hit or miss. I love to take a walk here to clear my head or after a good meal at the Market. The pier itself is nice, appealing and well kept from the city's standpoint however if you're expecting a pier with a boardwalk and active vendors, Oceanside is not for you. The pier has an overview of the ocean, a Ruby's at the end and tons of fish. It's great for picture taking and has a higher population of performers (as well as homeless). Seems like a huge hang out spot for the residents of and around Oceanside, hosting a nice tackle shop in the middle, bonfire pits with grills on the beach and several different vendors open during day light hours. Worth going at night for the view! read more

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I recall fishing here with my father back in the 70s. Those were good times, even catching some bonito at the end of the pier when it was much longer before the storms one year ripped it in half. I fished here a few times as a young adult too, but the catches seemed to have diminished. I cannot comment about how it is to fish here now, although I have seen a few fish caught here while walking the pier. Nothing like the large halibut, croaker, white sea bass, or even the surf perch which were much bigger than what I have seen in peoples' buckets in recent times. At least it does not require a fishing license to fish from the pier. The little amphitheater facing the ocean was a great place to watch the 4th of July fireworks. The amphitheater was also used as a place to relax and watch US Marines and Sailors conduct beach landings and faux fighting scenarios on the beach (yes, to entertain and educate us civilians as to their readiness). It was an annual event! Oh, how times have changed. That type of patriotism is no longer PC. They also use to have concerts there for ones enjoyment. Times were obviously different back then, with a lower population and mindset. Fast forward to recent times and the entire area has had a transformation with hotels, restaurants, bars and theater within walking distance. Those are positive changes, as that area use to be pretty darn rough after hours through the 1990s and early 2000s. My only gripe, after dealing with the vehicle traffic to get in and out of this area as well as the associated foot traffic, is that there are way to many vagrants and drug addicts to stumble upon. This could turn an otherwise enjoyable adventure into a negative, if it's the wrong type of vagrant or drug addict. We still enjoy coming here a couple times each year, either for a stroll or to actually spend time hanging out on the beach itself. Parking can suck, unless you get there early on a summer day. If you are running late try the nearby FREE parking garage (at least it is still currently free). read more

Definitely one of the best things about living in Oceanside. I live about 10 minutes from the beach, I'm just a drive down the the 76 and the pier is a frequent stop for me. It's perfect anytime of the day whether it's in the afternoon or the evening. On any given day you can find entertainment whether it's someone blowing giant bubbles, someone singing along to their guitar, or even someone reeling in a catch. At the end of the pier is a Ruby's diner and if you don't have time to eat there you can pick up a shake or a cone and walk the rest of the pier or strand. If you're lucky you'll see some of the marine life. On a few occasions I was lucky enough to see whales passing through and dolphins are seen pretty regularly. The pier is a landmark and people flock to it for a reason. If you are going to go I recommend going at sunset or at night. Sunset is great for the obvious reasons, beautiful horizons and a water colored sky. But going at night it's amazing because when you look into the distance you can't see where the ocean ends and the sky begins, it's like walking into space, alone with the dark. I personally love it and for me this is the absolute best time to go. It makes you feel so small and the world seem so vast. Either way enjoy, and don't do anything crazy! read more

It's a great place to watch the sunset the pier is free but it costs to park and if your hungry there is a restaurant at the entrance and the at the end of the pier. The piers pretty old and really long I think it's one of the longest in CA so it's great exercise to walk from one end to the other. I always stop and talk to local fisherman they always have interesting tales. read more

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One of my favorite piers around San Diego. At the beginning of the pier there is a good Tin Fish cafe. In the middle of the pier you can find a pelican with a funny sign. This is a great place to watch surfers and just for walks. At sunset it is a beautiful spot for photos. But don't forget to check tides. read more

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Honestly way to many homeless people hanging around the the smell of urine is unbearable

Always a nice place to walk off all the delicious food around this area! There's always people fishing and enjoying the scenery! We met a very nice gentleman who let us use his fishing gear to reel in the catch! read more

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Great pier it has a small amphitheater at the beginning of it and a few fire pits on the beach next to it! The pier itself is a wood one and its pretty long! There is a Rubys at the end of the pier as well as a few places along the way to wash your fish. In the middle of the pier there is a bait shop that also rents fishing poles in case you have that sudden urge to fish! I've been to this pier a few times over the years and I've always enjoyed it great atmosphere and lots of places to park that is if your not trying to come here on a popular summer day! The train stops not too far from the pier and the rest of downtown Oceanside so this could definitely be an activity if your visiting from the rails. Ill be back at some point to walk down this pier again when I have a reason to actually go to Oceanside haha! read more

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It was a mass of humanity when I was strolling down the pier. Made me feel like I was reliving "Soylent Green" (that's for you movie buffs). The people were nice and all, and it wasn't an unruly crowd, but it was pretty packed. It was pretty clean considering all the people milling about, so I will applaud thing for that. Obviously, it was pretty cool seeing pelicans lounging about the pier. What was annoying is that no matter how many signs are displayed saying not to poke, prod, or stand next to the birds, people did nonetheless. They kept trying to feed the birds, and I saw one person trying to put their arm around a pelican to have a picture taken. I would have enjoyed seeing the pelican attacking the idiot, perhaps taking an eye out, but that didn't happen. I guess the pelicans have become tolerant. Yes, there is plenty of bird poop everywhere, so make sure to was your hands when you get home. The parking is decent. Just pay for your spot on one of the lots, or put your coins in the meter (the lots are better since you don't have to keep running back to put money in the meter). But be warned, don't try to cheat the system. If there is a chance to you can have your car ticketed or towed, it will be. The Parking Gods are not kind, and ignorance is not an excuse. Pay your money and park your car. Oceanside Pier and Beach isn't the greatest beach around, but it is a lot better than some of them. If you're a beach person, then of course, you'll be happy as a calm. If you are not a beach person, the pier is still worth a stroll, at least during the evening (so you don't get sunburnt). read more

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Good place to come and enjoy the view and make new friends. Lots of people fishing and jogging about. Can be crowded during the weekends so come early if you want a good parking spot. Also close by are little shops, a few fun restaurants, and of course the Top Gun house. read more

It is a beautiful area. Oceanside Pier is the longest pier on the west coast. The view is beautiful. For people who like to fish or just want to try it out for the first time, there is a little shop at the center of the pier that rents out fishing poles, sells bait, drinks, snacks and other miscellaneous items. A decent place to take the family but keep in mind that during the hot summer days it becomes extremely busy and crowded. read more

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Ive been on piers on both the pacific and atlantic side and this one is as good as it gets. It might be partially biased due to growing up and the nostalgia of so many memories. It may be because there is no place like home and I am reminded of that each time I walk this pier. No one on the pier is angry, exept the old pelican. He is just as old as the pier so he thinks he owns it. It even has bathrooms and is handicapped friendly. Many fisherman and people of all walks of life come here to fish, or just walk. Want to get some zen walk this pier then continue the strand. Its about 2 miles of beauty. We saw surfers and dolphins playing in the water together on this particular trip. Cali girl til I die. read more

I can't believe I didn't write a review for this place! I've been coming here since 2009! I like to come to this beach to simply relax. It's not as clean as La Jolla or Encinitas beaches, but it's still nice. There's the surfing side and the "swimming" side in which case, i find it to be too rocky (rocks all over the sand). Parking isn't bad here, you can usually find a good spot close up to the beach for free. Then there's that parking lot right across from the beach. My kids love the playground here so we come here for that. I was just here two weeks ago with two other families and we hung out here for a few hours. The pier is nice with lots of seagulls! Also, make sure you stop in Swami's cafe for some good eats! read more

Sun, Sand, & Marines, oh my! Oceanside is one of my favorite beaches and the pier does not disappoint. You can watch the surfers catching gnarly waves or get a glimpse of the breathtaking sunset, and even score a kobe burger at the end of the pier. They allow dogs (just not on the sand), and there are barbeques, volleyball courts, and great bonfire pits. Wherever your day takes you, you'll have plenty to do at this beach and around the pier. The people watching is great here too. Five stars baby! read more

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Walk Fish Sit Relax Explore Get your fishing supplies Eat at Ruby's Take in the beauty of the coast. read more

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This is indeed an excellent pier. For fishers, there are brackets for your pole and cleaning facilities on the pier. For everyone else, there are bathrooms on the pier, and importantly, pier access is free. The pier itself is extremely long but wide, sturdy and well made, which includes good railings. On top of this, the beach is beautiful, lined by palm trees and the water is a gorgeous turquoise color. The waves here are truly impressive too, and surfers gather to ride them. All in all, it's a perfect place to visit. read more

Wear a jacket, it's a little breezy, but it's such a nice walk no matter the weather. read more

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I've taken more than a few strolls over the Pacific Ocean at this wonderful location. Immerse yourself at a great spot to watch surfers catch a wave or fishermen catch a fish. At the entrance of the pier is the amphitheater which has many musical and cultural performances - especially on weekends over the summertime. The pier can recapture memories and even transport you far away. Whether you visit in the morning, afternoon, or evening this enchanted wooden structure offers visitors something special. It's just short of 2,000 feet and one of the longest wooden piers you'll ever come across. Most people know, but you can grab a bite to eat at Ruby's Diner located at the end of the pier --but hey it's Ruby's, so you know, keep your expectations low. Perhaps the most utilitarian advice I can give you is regarding the parking situation. There are plenty of nearby pay lots and meters on the streets -- however there is a FREE lot on Cleveland Street just across from the Apotheque Spa. From the end of the pier the ocean goes on forever. It's a beautiful, dangerous place. Walk on out and connect with your soul. Breath in the salty air and look at the sunset or the sky. Reminded yourself what it's like to be alive. read more

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This was my first time visiting Oceanside Pier and I already miss it! It was beautiful and there was so many things walking distance to do. Weather was beautiful, the ocean felt great! I'll be going back really soon. read more

Great place to watch the sunset or sunrise. It was slammed when we went but I can imagine how peaceful it is without us tourist in the way. The pelicans were biting when you get close. I don't blame them, "Ya too close Mon!" I just took a picture of some lady crazy enough to get that close and of course, he bit her!! lol I got a dope pic but hopefully she didn't get salmonella! (Yes, I know you can't get salmonella like that. It's just jokes, kids) read more

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Great place to fish bbq and have a good time the bait shop on tje pier has good bait and good snacks, also pappys liquor near by has good essentials read more

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Recently visited Oceanside, CA, to visit my dear girlfriend. Brought the whole family down to the pier numerous times on our 6 day trip! Unbelievably beautiful scenery goes without saying but cute little benches and photo ops along the way when walking down the longest wooden pier in the Western United States - first built in 1888! Ruby's Diner is at the end and there is a cute little Bait and Tackle Shop along the way. Dogs aren't allowed on this pier - so don't bring your pup for a walk. We got some of our most cherished family photos at the end of pier at sunset - a true must see! read more

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One of the better piers in San Diego County. On any day you will find fishermen comingling with strolling tourists. If you can make the hike to the end of the pier you can stay and eat at Ruby's. Stunning views to the North and South and very nice sunsets can be watched from the pier. Occasionally you will see a few surfers out catching waves. The Oceanside Band Shell is nearby with occasional concerts and there is also a McDonald's under the pier off the beach. Street parking only here. Be mindful of your meter. If you don't mind the walk you can park longer and for free by simply crossing the railroad tracks via the underpass on Pier View and using the 4 hour lots. I recommend a visit. read more

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I Love this place, especially the night fishing... The Ocean Breeze at night feels so good! To see the Sunrise in the morning while the Surfers are out is Amazinggg? This all-nighter is FUN! read more

Oceanside must visit! Enjoy how all fisherman for the most part police themselves but admit they take away from the glamour for the Pier. I really wish dog owners would read the signs about not having dogs on the pier and people not feeding the birds! With that said if your native take pride in your city and do your part in keeping this landmark beautiful! read more

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We love the Oceanside Pier for the tremendous consistency of the waves. The waves here always seem to be just a little larger then down at Frazee Beach, although you do have to paddle out a little farther the break is well worth it. There's always a few Surfers here and sometimes when the waves are right quite a bit more than a few most of them seem to be very righteous when the waves are right Oceanside Pier is a great place to be. I have found the pier to be a great place to boogie board at sunset there's nothing like being in the water riding waves while the sun goes down behind the pier. It is truly an exhilarating experience if you are ever in the area and you have your boogie board around sunset time head to Oceanside Pier and run don't walk into the water and experience the phenomenal feeling of riding waves as the sun goes down. read more

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I like to go at night because it's a lot cooler and less people. This pier is really long and you have to watch your step because the wooden floor isn't all flat. Also for the ladies this is not the best place to wear heels. There are a lot of people fishing so beware of flying hooks. Even though they are not suppose fling their rod behind them. Sometimes you will see a whole family with blankets for their young kids as they fish late into the night. This is one of my favorite places to go because Ruby's is pretty nice and sometimes there is a small golf cart that will take you to Ruby's. There is also restrooms about half way down the pier but use at your own risk there not always that clean. If you haven't already I would also try the fish place under the pier I really liked the fish and chips but the cole slaw was the winner. read more

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I lOVES me some Oceanside, I come here all the time. The sunsets are amazing, pretty much all year long. I think Spring has the best tho. There's alot of things to do here for everyone. Off the south side of the pier there's a playground right next to the sand (currently under construction as of July 2011) and close to the water too. If you decide to go more down south towards the strand there's another playground near a grassy area this one is open. You can always go surfing, fishing on pier or go down to the end and have a bite to eat at Ruby's. They have the best garlic fries..mmmm. You can rent bikes and go riding down the boardwalk beware of SLOW walkers and their dog...they won't get out of the way, as if right!?!!? could always bring your dog for a walk on the boardwalk....If you get caught on the beach tho you could get a ticket as I found out. Oh well. There's fire pits and a few picnic tables if you wanted to have a little party. I would get there pretty early to get a table. They go quick...and people tend to get "all gangsta" over them..lol true story. Besides Ruby's there's usually private vendors selling OVER priced food but if you don't mind that then what eva. During the summer they have alot of different ones like a taco stand, Italian ice (haha), ice cream stand, and general stand(s) with everything from hot dogs, sodas, chips, etc. I personally like the view of the Marines that run on the beach..haha..Keeps me coming back, let me tell you. =) read more

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WOW!!! I love coming here. It's so peaceful and tranquil. It's a long sturdy wooded pier with a pot of gold at the end (Ruby's Diner) :) It's definitely touristy and it's just a fun day out. People walking, holding hands, meeting for the first time, fishing.. whatever.... it's just a great vibe and who doesn't like being close to the ocean?!?!?! I come from Cape Town South Africa, and we have some of the most amazing beaches in the world... Google, Clifton 4th beach, Camps Bay, Jeffery's Bay... To be honest, I've been spoilt since I grew up in a coastal town.... Oceanside Pier rocks and definitely is up there with the best!!!! read more

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Sentimental, overly maudlin moment: I remember last year I walked on here because I wanted to forget about an ex-boyfriend and his much older girlfriend (a woman he left me for). Walking on here not only brought me closer to the ocean but also made me pleasantly entertained by some of the local fishermen on the pier as well as those hunky surfers below us...which made it VERY easy to forget the ex. ;) Like everyone else says, this place gets super crowded during the summer. Everyone is walking there, there are fishers everywhere, and it reeks of rotten fish guts thanks to the fishers and drooling pelicans. I love it! It's a great place to do people watching. There are your standard couples, your military families, your teenagers, and the occasional jogger. If you're into marines, there are a load of them there, some of whom are actually pretty attractive (although I will admit, I'm generally not interested in marines, no matter how cute they are). Ruby's is at the far end (similar to the pier in Huntington Beach), but isn't that a given for any pier? I love Ruby's though, so I can't complain. During the non-summer months, this place is not crowded. You will mainly see the same people who are obsessed with fishing and will spend hours of the day trying to catch those special few. I know this because I used to fish and have been around the locals enough to understand what their day is like. Sometimes when someone does catch something, it's pretty exciting. Everybody makes a big deal over that. :D It is very quiet during the evenings, but taking a stroll during the late hours is lovely. I guess if you're the romantic type, you might like the ambience and hearing the waves hitting against the pier. As for me and my friends, we liked walking there during the night to walk off our huge dinners and alcohol (and it's GREAT)....Hahahahaha! Minus one star for "crooked flooring" on the pier (it's hard to walk in with heels and sandals) and the occasional fisherman who thinks he can hit on you because he caught 5 fish for the day. Hahahaha, but I guess the flaws are all part of the experience, right? As for Ex....Ex and girlfriend broke up for obvious reasons they didn't perceive, although anyone and everyone could predict that untimely end. Ex wanted me back because he realized he made a "mistake" and regretted leaving the whole time he was with her (she wanted to marry him within that short time frame they were together...and he and I dated much longer than she did with him). Pssh, yeah right! That's the first and only time I'll ever lose to a cougar. He lost, I kept my dignity, and I continue to enjoy the pier. The end. :) read more

Today was a beautiful day, and driving up the coast to grab some Yummy Cupcakes in Encintas, and continue north to the city of Oceanside and the pier was our game plan, which we executed to perfection. Parking is easy, there were a lot of people with the same thoughts in mind, but Oceanside has VERY smartly set up pier side parking in some very accommodating lots...and unlike downtown privately owned lots that gouge you, this one is a very reasonable $5.00 for 12 hours. Thank you very much Oceanside!!! The pier is in it's sixth iteration, being rebuilt in 1987. It is one of the longest wooden piers on the west coast at over 1.900 feet. There are names machined into all of the railing planks for the full length, I am assuming that they are people who contributed to the rebuild effort. It was nice....there was a fair amount of litter/trash on the pier, and some...uh....fragrant vagrants milling about. It was definitely a great view, and there were surfers on the waves at noon, which I'm not really used to seeing too much...a lot of surfers. We had lunch at 333 Pacific Steakhouse, which I'll review in a bit. We will make the trip back, and soon. It's nice, really nice, just not AWESOME, if you feel me. read more

One of my favorite places to catch sunset. Long pier without any flashy elaborations and some of the fattest seagulls. read more

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The Oceanside Pier, a long wooden pier jutting out into the Pacific from a beach in Oceanside, is truly a gem on the Pacific shoreline. Measuring nearly 600 meters in length (ie: just over 1/3 of a mile), not much in life is finer than an ocean gazing stroll down this amazing pier. What will you see? Birds, anglers, tourists aplenty, bait shacks, Ruby's Diner, surfers in the distance, and if you're really lucky? You'll see three life guards run to about mid-pier, and jump with a flourish into the Pacific below. Fear not...prior to their excited leap, an onlooker asked if there was an emergency to which life guard #3 replied--Nah...we're just on break and thought we'd have a swim--before clapping his swim fins together, hooting and leaping in. Typically I drink coffee on my breaks in lieu of a 300 meter swim--but, hey, to each their own. As I mentioned, there is a diner on the pier. Ruby's is located at the end of the pier and is a 50's style diner. You can also continue walking around the diner, to the very end of the pier where you'll likely see many hopeful anglers with the lines dipped into the ocean below. The smell of the ocean and the sounds of gulls as you wander out over the ocean--amazing. Get to it! read more

This pier is such a historic part of Oceanside it must be visited. To think it was rebuilt in this area in 1893 is hard for me to wrap my mind around. Besides that, it's really cool. It's a great place to take a walk, look at the sunset, watch surfers, fish or grab a bite at Ruby's at the end. Not to mention, it's amazing for photography too. It can be relaxing on an off day, but in the heart of summer, it does get busy. For a nice landmark with a bunch of history and a little fun, this is a great place to check out. read more