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    John Ray & Sons

    2.2 (65 reviews)
    Open 7:00 am - 5:00 pm

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    I contracted with John Ray & Sons to replace the oil tank in my basement and the work was completed on November 11, 2024. In early April of 2025 I noticed that a patch of lawn was dead, and when I smelled the dirt it smelled of oil. Bags containing absorbant material from the old oil tank had been placed on that spot. I first called the offices at John Ray & Sons on 4/3/2025 to resolve this issue. Since then I have had two no-call, no-show appointments. Two unanswered e-mails, and I have made several phone calls to their office. Eventually someone came out to resolve the issue on 5/2/2025. The solution was to remove as much dead grass as could be removed with a rake and spread grass seed over the area. The grass seed did not germinate in the oil contaminated soil. I contacted John Ray and Sons again on 5/20/2025 and was told that neither one of the customer service reps I had been communicating with were available. 48 hours later I still have not heard from either of them.

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    Unprofessional. They don't return calls or follow thru. Oh wait,they contacted me 6 weeks after I contacted them.!

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