Found the car I wanted online and went into the dealership to test drive. I met Andy, very relaxed no pressure salesman. He was very familiar with the vehicle having owned and driven one. He was extremely helpful and made the whole car ownership process go quickly and smoothly. I even lucked out and had a free first Friday lunch! Loved the laid back old school vibe of this dealership. Highly recommend purchasing your next vehicle here! read more

Encinitas Ford - 2014 C-Max Energi - Car Dealers Near Me - Encinitas, California

I have a 3 year old Ford Escape with around 32k miles that I took here for and oil change and to check on a suspicious noise in the front right wheel area. It's been FIVE WEEKS as of today and they still have my car and no updates other than "we don't know what's wrong yet". They gave me a Ford Focus after the first week (I showed up at the dealership unannounced and asked for my car back). Since then, we have heard from our contact maybe two or three times, all from us calling him. I've also called a few times and apparently zero other people can help out so you basically always have to leave a message. Update: after six weeks I got my car back, unfixed. They did offer another diagnosis and did not charge me for the first attempted fix. Due to the length of time it took to get a diagnosis and difficulty of reaching someone to speak with when you call, I am sticking with two starts (updated from 1 star previously). I do appreciate the comp on the attempted fix that didn't work. read more

AVOID! AVOID! AVOID! These guys are terrible. If I could give them 0 stars I would. I have an extended ford warranty with no deductible. The service guy told me that although I had a warranty, that I had to pay a $100 vehicle inspection fee in order to find out what was wrong with the car before the warranty would cover the repair. What a scam! Save yourself the trouble and go to an honest dealer. read more

I was interested in the value of my truck and submitted an online blind trade in offer knowing that it would get sent out to multiple dealerships. I put my house phone number down and gave specific instructions to email me for any correspondence. Well not even 2min later my wife texted that Encinitas ford called and she gave them my cell number. They then called me and the lady was rude as all get out and lied to me in our very short conversation. She took offense to me letting her know that I would prefer to work through email cause I'm working. She finally asked at the end if was interested in working with them and that was an easy question. I'm pretty sure she hung up on me so I called back to ask the name of the dept that handle internet sales or commercial sales. Her name is Koren. Despite our second conversation which was much better I would still not deal with this dealership on any level. If a customer is essentially signs your paycheck and they ask you to do something within reason then you should at least try. Karen or Koren (however it is spelled) needs work with blind sales calls. Sales is not easy in the least but if you take offense to the simplest of questions or comments you seem like a pretentious, have a sense of entitlement, and are very judgmental. Not to mention take information as a personal attack. 3 hours later when I called to get her name she still doesn't think that she had any contribution to the reason I would not do business with them. read more

(edited) Terribly expensive, mislead to pay $200 to diagnose!! Support your local friend-referred mechanic instead :-/ I took my truck in for a recall and asked that they take a look and a couple power mechanics problems I was having. Good ol' Duke told me that the part that was usually broken in my door was about $104, but that he would have to get in to take a look at the rest, I signed off on $204, he called me later to tell me the job would be about $950, I told him it was too steep and that I was going to shop around. I showed up expecting to pay for some time, but not the $204. I WAS AS SURPRISED AS THE CASHIER that I was paying that much for nothing. When she rang in in to question the amount, his words were "yeah $204, exactly what you signed for". I feel I was mislead by Duke because he told me how much the part was and I figured the other 100 was for labor. He, deliberately or not, failed to mention anywhere that it was $200 "just to go in and take a look". So sad for FORD. (edit)*** TWO WEEKS LATER....Torn on where to put my stars...maybe 2.5 the higher up service is pretty good. My complaint to Duke's boss went without response, but once I got above him, they acted very quickly and with great concern. I was very grateful to have my money refunded without having to ask for it and she promised to bring the issue up with the owner. I feel that there are people there who care about their customers.... and the dealership seems to have great reviews...just think the service dept needs some attention. I did find out that these guys DO work in commission so...I would still recommend that if you pull up and the guy who is going to register your car is 'Duke"...... ask for the other guy. read more

I have some pretty challenging credit issues, and to make matters worse, the head gasket blew on my car and I owed more on it than it was worth. I drive from San Diego to North County and back every day for work and don't make much, so not having a car was not an option but buying a replacement car felt like even less of an option. I should preface this by saying my boyfriend's car was totaled and we went together to just about every dealership in San Diego and let them have their way with us for a few hours just to get an idea of what we were looking at as far as quality, integrity, etc. across the board at all our dealerships. He ended up going to Toyota Carlsbad-- they were pretty great too but that's another review for another time. I went to North County Ford because I knew there were some great rebates going on. I was instantly approached by a salesman, and after I acquiesed to come inside and sit down he disappeared and some 26-year-old kid came and took over. No apology, no acknowledgment that apparently my original sales guy had lost several decades and gained some zits. I bottled that and said up front, "I have bad credit. You will likely not sell to me today unless we can get past that." He said, "no worries, we've seen the worst of the worst." Then, after running my credit, he comes back, sits down, and looks at me solemnly and says, "What's going ON, April?" Like I needed this kid to give me a reality check when I was the one who told him what's up in the first place. I don't have any judgments or bankruptcies. All of my credit challenges are from youthful mistakes sticking my neck out for family (or a now-ex-husband) between 4 and 7 years ago. But I've lived with this crummy credit long enough to know it exists. I don't need to be treated like a leper. He wanted a ridiculous down payment and even more ridiculous payments. I did the math and even with the worst possible interest rate it didn't make sense. But again, this is another review for another time. I almost gave up on getting a car and considered skateboarding 80 miles a day to work. But then I went to Encinitas Ford. Dooley was my sales guy. He was incredibly understanding. He has the "sales" approach, but once you really listen to him talk he actually does try to offer tips to help you out. He was in finance before and has seen people in my situation. I went there on a Saturday at 1pm and was out the door (after much negotiation, I won't lie) by 4pm. I really appreciated that he listened to our limitations for down payment and monthly payments, and he stuck his neck out with finance and begged them to get me in a great vehicle. They even took over my trade (with the blown head gasket!) and offered several hundred dollars more in credit for it than anywhere else had. They did not make much money off of me but they do have a loyal customer now and I have family/friends who are buying new cars soon. I will refer them all to Encinitas Ford. I appreciated the staff listening to my story, not judging me, and being open to not only work with my challenges, but to make sure the car I ended up with was a solid, dependable car. I love my car. I mean, I LOVE my car. I want to sleep in it, I want to give it a big hug. I wish I could drive it and watch it roll down the road at the same time, that's how much I love it. For the first time in many credit-challenged, pariah-feeling years, I have a great, adult, quality vehicle I am proud to drive. Thanks Dooley, and thanks Encinitas Ford! read more

Went to go see Rigo w an issue I had w my brand new Raptor, he made it right and took care of me. Ask for Rigo and get taken care of. read more

Encinitas Ford - Car Dealers Near Me - Encinitas, California

I love the service I have always recieved at Encinitas Ford. They all have gone above and beyond what I would of ever expected. Everyone from Oscar my salesman, Kevin in Finance, Madalyn who helped me with SYNC and Steve from the Service Dept, awesome job!! I will be a long time customer! read more

Highly recommend this place! I worked with Sandy! My radio was broken in my car as well as an oil leak in my engine and Sandy called me multiple times throughout my car being there and gave me very well detailed and explained updates on what was going on with my car! Will definitely go back in the future! Thanks Sandy for making my experience so easy! read more

I've had some issues with service but we got through them. I trusted Jeff to the most part, he spoke "car", but he left. The older guy I dealt with after Jeff seemed pretty good. I didn't have much time for Rigo. In terms of trying buy a new car, Encinitas Ford managed to convince me NOT to buy a car. Probably not a good business practice for them. I spent 2 weeks trying to get a quote from the "internet sales manager" and it was exceptionally frustrating. His objective seemed to be to a)ignore my questions and b)get me down to the showroom. "Can I book a test drive"; question ignored. "Please tell me your price for this specification vehicle" question ignored several times . To take an existing customer with a pile of cash, a clear desire to buy an expensive new car from Encinitas Ford, and piss them off so much they decide to go and buy a Jeep, is some achievement for a "salesmen". I'll get my car serviced elsewhere in future too I think, just to show them who's boss. LOADS of service places and Ford dealers in San Diego. read more

So far, I'm a fan. I used to avoid this place because it looked shady to me. I would drive all the way to Mossy Ford in Mission Bay because I just got a bad vibe. In fact, its the same bad vibe I get when I look at Ken Grody in Carlsbad, or North County Ford in Vista. I can't explain it. Well I tried Encinitas because I had a coupon for a free oil change. I actually liked my experience. I thought for sure I would be pressured to do more service because something needs to usually be fixed or upgraded. Never was an issue. My charge was as promised, $0.00, and with no up sell. I saw the bill before it was finalized and it would have been around 34.00. I believe that's cheaper than any Jiffy effen Lube & Tune for a full size truck that takes way more than 4 quarts of oil. And I'm at the dealership. I was shocked, and I will probably return....for service. I still need to get a feel for sales. It's a vibe thing. read more

i was always told car shopping took a long time and that dealers are a hastle to negociate with, but i had a fantastic experience here at encinitas ford great staff alen kevin and scott where fantastic super helpful great attitude. thanks for everything read more

Encinitas Ford - Car Dealers Near Me - Encinitas, California

I had a very good experience at this dealer -- which by car buying standards is saying A LOT. I came in to buy a used Ford Focus SE and they had the car that was advertised in great condition. No haggling and none of the dealer games -- they showed me what they had in the car and we agreed on a fair price and a fair value on my trade In. Worked with the owner himself and also Allen Kessler who was courteous and knowledgeable. No hard pressure sales tactics here Overall an excellent buying experience. read more

No customer service hete‼ They sold me a car and sent me out the door with an empty gas tank... yep ran out of gas. The following Sunday eve my car died in the side of the road. They said they'd need to keep it a couple weeks since the mechanic was on vacation. After some persistence they managed to get it back to me in a few days. They returned a filthy dirty car that had been left there by the tow truck in a clean condition. Turns out the 1 year Loan is 2 years. Most recently I reached out bc I'm having problems with Ford credit taking two payments at a time. As with every single call I've made to Encinitas Ford no call back.... every single call. Not one , not a couple times but a big fat 0 on about 20 calls. Shop elsewhere read more

When I bought my new Ford Explorer 18 months ago, I had a couple issues pop up that needed warranty work. I am so glad Duke was my service advisor! He is friendly, knowledgeable and does what he says he is going to do. I highly recommend asking for Duke at Encinitas Ford the next time you need help. You won't regret it. read more

WELL HERE IS MY SAD STORY......won't be recommending Encinitas Ford again... and here is why.. I bought my 2013 around 3 months ago, thought it was all good...later found out that the coolant was contaminated when I bought it and that there is a leak somewhere...coolant keeps disappearing! I had to insist that they change the coolant at no cost to me...I mean INSIST, they didn't want to do it...saying things like, "no problem, it's fine"! After insisting and talking to a sales manager, I finally got them to change the coolant...they also put it through a pressure test, and and their conclusion .... there is no problem.....its all good. I THOUGHT I SAID IT WAS LEAKING COOLANT...after 9 days at being in their shop it is now way below the add line?? They are refusing to do anything about it...won't even call me back. So I'm left with taking it somewhere else to pay more money, because they don't stand behind their cars. Bottom Line...Went to Encinitas Ford thinking I could depend on their services...what a mistake! Won't be doing that again...think before you go here. The people were nice,but be careful about what they sell you! Your on your own.... read more

Once again this dealership doesn't disappoint they helped work out an amazing affordable payment for my boyfriend with an F-150 truck they are very persistent until someone is happy! Austin and Daniel were an amazing help during this process. Doug was also amazing in the financing office! We will be forever customers. read more

Encinitas Ford - My amazing used 2014 Ford Fusion - Car Dealers Near Me - Encinitas, California

Though not currently in the market for a new car, I always enjoy seeing the new Mustangs lined up along Encinitas Blvd. I stopped by today, killing time, while my Ford truck was being certified for smog across the street. New Mustang 5.0 are not cheap. About 30K plus or minus a few grand. I couldn't find any with the keys in the ignition so I was unable to burn out of the lot with salesmen chasing in the rear view mirror. I do, sort of, fantasize of being in a big police chase on the news out driving the po po and screamin down the freeway at 140 mph. How fun would that be? awesome! That's how fun. Except for the part where they shoot you. Nah, I'd never do that. I checked out the Ford Fusion too. they look nice. This point I'd take a donkey and cart if it were a 2013 model and a blastin stereo. I played the Mega Lotto this week so that might happen. Either a new Stang or new Donk! Anyway, just looking today. I'm giving 5 stars cause they let me use thier phone once when I was stranded. read more

Not recommended. Typical stereotyped used car sales. Do whatever they can to get you to there dealership, and then don't have the car. If zero stars was an option, they would get zero. read more

We recently purchased a 2012 Explorer from Encinitas Ford and aside from the car being perfect, it was the experience that sold us. Our sales expert, Michael Miller went above and beyond their duties ensuring our Ford experience was tailored to our needs. He customized our experience by allowing us to test drive and finilaize our purchase from the comfort of our own home. With two kids under 2, this was necessary as the long waits in a dealership would have been stressful. What's more, twice Michael has come on his day off to pick up our car and deliver it for services not met at day of purchase (add ons). If given the chance I will always recommend Encinitas Ford and Michael Miller....hey wait, I just did! read more

I bought a used Ford Edge even though I arrived being set on buying my leased Lincoln MKZ. Jeff,the manager, simply laid out the math on keeping the Lincoln or buying the Edge. I felt then and still do now that I made the smart decision. Derek Kekuva was so patient and helpful it was like having my nephew help me-he even set up my Siriusxm. Derek Fry took care of all the paperwork so quickly I arrived on time to my grandsons birthday party in my new car. Very happy with the respect and kindness shown to me--Thank You!!!! read more

So I walk in and automatically get treated like royalty! They made the process fast and easy! They really went through a lot to get me my brand new 2017 mustang GT! Nate was such an amazing factor in my purchase he really gave me what I wanted with no attitude pure joy. You can tell everyone at Encinitas ford wants there customers to leave with a smile! Thank you to everyone who helped me read more

Encinitas Ford - New 2017 GT sold to me by Nate - Car Dealers Near Me - Encinitas, California

Seriously the WORST service every time I go in and the final straw was when I called to bring my car in for an oil change, I literally drove by at 3:04 and the girl said they don't take cars after 3pm. So I kept driving to the Midas down the street where they gave great Yelp reviews and I got amazing service. So ridiculous- especially when, the multiple times I've brought my car there for other service they consistently fail to return my car within the promised time period by literally days!!!!!! Never again. read more

Unprofessional. I received an airbag recall notice and went over to take care of it. They told me it was going to take a day to replace the airbags. I picked up my car thinking everything was done. Not so! I got a phone call a week later from Duke saying the staffer forgot to get the numbers off the airbags. I had to make another appointment to bring my car back. Called them to confirm appointment; said it wasn't in their system. Make another appointment. Appointment complete. Pick my car up 30 minutes later and drive away. STILL. NOT. DONE. I got another call saying they forgot to get the passenger number off the airbag!! Make another appointment, they're coming to me this time. Then today, I got another call asking if the appointment was today (08/28) or tomorrow... Dang it Ford Encinitas! Get your freaking act together!! Not coming back after this... read more

I wanted to take a few brief moments to explain a customer experience I had about 3 weeks ago when purchasing a new truck. Over the past 2 to 3 months, I've been searching for a new truck for all of my towing needs. On New Year's Day, while conducting an online search, I found what I thought was the exact vehicle I was looking for online, which was located at Encinitas Ford. At the time, I was on vacation in Big Bear, and calling other dealerships at the same time for the same reason. I truly was hoping not to drive all the way to Encinitas to buy a truck. I called each dealership who I thought would have trucks that would fit the bill, Encinitas being the furthest away. From the call alone, I already knew who I wanted to work with. As we all know, the car shopping process can be daunting for many, exhausting, and all around stressful. I knew from the moment Maryanne picked up the phone at the dealership, that this would not be one of those experiences. Maryanne immediately went and personally checked the inventory to ensure the specific truck was there prior to me beginning my drive. She was friendly, knowledgeable, and incredibly pleasant to speak with. Immediately after she located the vehicle, she passed the phone to her colleague in the sales department, Andy, for a quick meet and greet. Andy was great, he immediately asked me a series of questions to ensure he was on the same page as to what MY needs were. He really LISTENED to what I wanted, instead of trying to push me in any certain direction he wanted. I knew right away Andy was really in my corner to help me along my way. When I arrived some hours later at the dealership, both Maryanne and Andy were prepared and awaiting my arrival, greeting both my fiancee and I at the front door. It was great, because we had already talked for some time over the phone, I felt like I already knew them both, and we were able to get right down to business. Andy already had the truck freshly washed while I was driving down, and parked right at the front door ready for a test drive. The truck was better than it looked in the pictures, had all the options I was looking for, and the test drive was great. Upon completing the test drive, It was time to come to terms on the cost of the vehicle, extended warranty, financing rates and trade in terms for the Escalade I was trading in. I explained to Andy in advance that I have great experience in car purchasing, as my family works in the business in another area of the country. Andy assured me he understood, he would go to bat for me, and there wouldn't be any games. It was as if he was an advocate for his customer from the beginning. After Andy spoke with his manager, he came back with the right deal, THE FIRST TIME!!! No exhausting back and forth games with managers. He listened to what I needed, and made it happen fast without any push back. I was able to get a fair price on my trade, a great warranty on the truck, and great price on the vehicle itself plus some rebates. I WAS THRILLED WITH THE OVERALL PACKAGE!!!! Next, I moved to working with Doug in the finance department. He knew I was savvy with loans, and again didn't play any games trying to get me into a high interest rate where the dealership makes extra money. Doug worked very hard with me to explore multiple financing avenues and was able to get me a great rate. Again, I was thrilled. I must note, not only did everyone treat me with respect, they were all so friendly along they way. Truly accommodating and pleasant. I left as happy as could be. 3 weeks later, I realized I was missing a package I thought came standard from Ford Motor Company, and realized it was not. I was so bummed that I had missed out on a package I had really wanted. I contacted Andy to let him know, and he immediately went to work with the owner of the dealership. I was sure, that after already they had already made the sale to me, there was no way they were going to be able to help. Boy was I wrong! Andy called me back, and after working with the Owner directly, they were able to offer me that package at and extremely fair rate. They did all this just to ensure they kept a past customer happy. They did not have to at all!!!! It was my miscommunication that lead to my disappointment. I believe true test of a company, is when they go above and beyond when they don't have to. They truly just wanted to deliver a great customer experience, and they did in every single way for me. Hopefully, by writing this review, some readers will give Andy and Encinitas Ford a visit, saving themselves the trouble, and make their next car buying experience as stellar as mine. I COULD NOT HAVE ASKED FOR MORE! Thank you Maryanne, Andy, Doug and all of the Encinitas Ford team! read more

I had been looking for a car for the last few weeks- I went to several other dealers- They all treated me like I was clueless to the process. I found my way to Encinitas Ford via an online post advertising the cars. I spoke mostly with Frank Sekulic over email- He was very nice and kept me updated until I was ready to come in. When I came in I had the absolute PLEASURE to work with Allen Kessler. Allen was amazing. He treated me with respect and kindness, He allowed the space for me to process the purchase, to ensure that I was ready to buy, I didn't feel pressured at all! Way different feel then all the other dealers I went to. Thank you so much for making this purchase less stressful in the end!!! I will for sure let anyone who ask that Encinitas Ford is the place to buy!!! read more

The team at Encinitas ford were awesome..They all were very friendly and accommodating during our purchase of our F150. I recommend this team to anyone that ask about my experience. I will be back the next time I am in the market for another vehicle. Thanks again read more

We had the best car buying experience ever! Nate was so informative, he definitely knows his Fords! Nate was not pushy, he let us both test drive the car and even let us test to see if it would fit in our garage! From the beginning to the end everything went as we had hoped and we feel we got more than we could have asked for. Absolutely painless! The financial part (that we dreaded the most) was pleasant and only took less than 2 hours thanks to Kevin he had us in our 2017 Ford Explorer in short time! What a difference! And I don't even have buyers remorse today! Thank you so much Encinitas Ford! read more

What a class act Dealership. Knowledgeable, friendly, and solution oriented. I ended up purchasing a awesome car! Thanks to the amazing staff there. Like Mary Ann, Drew Davis, and Kevin Burns. You three ROCK!! I have never experienced purchasing a vehicle so stress free. You all made the experience so pleasant. I recommend this dealership to everyone. I will definitely be coming back! read more

-bought a car here a few years back (Ford Escape Hybrid)...great experience -brought my car back a few times for service and overall mostly decent experiences... Good -tried to buy a used car here about a year ago, but couldn't come to an agreement and got it elsewhere... Too bad -just took my escape in for two Ford recalls, and had the car repaired and back in two hours... Fantastic read more

I was so lucky to have found the exact vehicle I wanted with the exact interior and exact color. With such low mileage, I was worried it would be out of my out of my price range, but Allen Kessler was able to get me a great deal!!! I needed two test drives to be sure my family loved it too and Allen was absolutely as friendly as could be to everyone. On top of that, they gave me a better warranty than I would have anywhere else. I have had my vehicle for a couples months now and I still love it! Highly recommend Encinitas Ford. read more

We bought a used 2014 Audi A5 from Encinitas Ford this past weekend. The entire process was flawless. The staff were all friendly and helpful and there was no pressure from anyone at all in the buying of this car. Richard Phillips was our sales person and he was amazing. No pressure sales from Richard. He was a pleasure to work and has quite the sense of humor making the whole process actually pleasant. We will definitely recommend this dealer to our friends!!! Karen and Malcolm Pilling read more

I have bought a dozen or so new cars in my lifetime, and I have never had a better experience with Frank, the Sales Rep. He was cordial and fair during the price negotiations, he even went the extra mile to find me the exact car I wanted from another dealership, and gave me a free loaner car to drive while I waited for my new car to arrive, prep and delivered later that day. And Doug the Finance Mgr. was knowledgeable and also cordial while processing my documents. I guess it must be something in the water over there So if you're looking to buy a Ford and live in Coastal North County, you should check them out!!! read more

This review is a long time coming, but I promised myself I'd get it done as soon as I wrapped my new van. See pic. I purchase a new Ford Transit Van in late December from Andy Hutchinson and couldn't be happier with the impeccable service Andy and Encinitas Ford provided. Andy and his entire team worked very hard for the sale and I'm grateful for his service. A special shot out to the young lady that works in finance. She was awesome to work with. read more

Encinitas Ford - Rocking our new van. Honk if you see us around town - Car Dealers Near Me - Encinitas, California

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You go in for a routine $80 service, and find that $445 in unneeded maintenance is "required." Masters of the high-pressure, and fraudulent, upcharge. If you are to be serviced by Encinitas Ford, bend way over, you're going to be serviced hard and deep. read more

Stay away from these liars. I was promised a deal over the phone and finally made the drive (2hrs away) just to come to find out they were inflating the finance APR so they could get a bigger cut for themselves. I have a 700+ score with a good down payment and they claimed Ford wanted 9.99% !!!!!!!!!!! Funny how I currently drive the same truck financed by ford with 3.25%. Sneaky liars here. Walked out pissed and drove 2 more hours home. STAY AWAY. read more

I want to thank Encinitas Ford for taking great care of its customers. Today Rigo provided me with great customer service. My car was fixed in no time. I'm always surprised with the low prices. I'm so glad I bought my car with you guys. I don't have to worry about it breaking down and won't being able to afford to fix it. Thanks for treating me so well. Having lots of fun with my new c-max. read more

I love Encinitas Ford! I have purchased or leased 6 cars over the passed 15 years. Mark Wheeler the GM is very professional and extremely fair. Mary Ann so nice, ready to help me in anything I need, she definately personalizes your car buying experience. Lacey makes you feel comfortable immediately, very knowledgeable about forms, financing, etc. Drew my sales guy was so easy going and helpful. He was extremely patient with my 3 year old grandson, Drew really needed to be creative to get my grandson to do what we wanted, haaha. Everyone was so sweet and helpful, from getting coloring books for my grandson to giving me a ride home, after I brought in my trade-in. Mark and his crew give a family warmth to the entire car buying experience. Kim read more

I had a great experience here. Alan and all the staff that I interacted with were professional and very friendly. I found my dream car, but it was a little out of my price range. They were very accommodating in coming to a compromise, and I ended up driving home in a new vehicle. I love my new truck! read more

I walked in earlier this week and as I pulled in I was very gently greeted by Andy Hutchinson. Very mellow, not pushy at all and the experience started off with a good conversation and a good few laughs. From there we got stuck into vehicles and what I was after. We narrowed it down to a beautiful F150 after test driving and in depth explanations about these trucks and their motors, value, what suited me the best. I am also in sales and I related to Andy straight away with the no pressure but the great in depth education and knowledge, with the idea of the 'big picture' in mind, the relationship! I came back this evening with the intent to make a good fair deal happen and with the assistance of Jeff Gelt in the 'dragons den' we came to an agreement. It was a fun experience where I left feeling good and that I set out to what I was after, a good fair deal. Paperwork handled efficiently and promptly, couple handshakes, a hug finalized with a, "See you later!" Cheers lads read more