This moving company is amazing. They took on our job last minute after our other movers pulled out the day before! Anthony, Josh and the team made it easy. Next time we will hire more movers but overall they are 5 stars all around. Very happy with the service. Thank you Josh again for taking care of my world for a few hours. read more

Be very very careful with this company. If they can get by with screwing you over, they will. The first thing they pulled was trying to get us to drive to the truck rental location to use OUR credit card to rent the truck. What moving company does that? My husband refused and miracle of miracles they came up with their own credit card to rent the truck. The move itself went pretty well except the U-Haul truck that they chose absolutely reeked of marijuana so all of our possessions smelled like weed when it was unloaded. Would it hurt to take a minute to look in the back to make sure it's cleaned and doesn't smell so bad that it permeates all of your possessions? After the unload we made a payment to them based on an estimate they had given us earlier because that's the amount Lana told the moving men that day. Imagine the chaos on the day that you're moving. I didn't have time to look at that estimate on moving in day, I just trusted them to do the right thing when asking for final payment. They charged us for a TV box that they never provided, they also charged us two times the gas mileage that was required for the move. I'm sure the cost of the rental truck from U-Haul was over exaggerated also but we didn't even want to get into that. Considering how they treated us, I also didn't bring up the fact that they broke an antique water pitcher of mine in the move. When I finally had time to follow up on this and check the estimate I noticed these irregularities and contacted Lana through email. At first she didn't reply at all and when I finally threatened to write bad reviews she came up with the excuse that my emails were going into their junk folder. Why would a customer's emails be going to a junk folder? We figured out the correct amounts for gasoline and my husband contacted Anthony, the owner by phone. Right away he got defensive and argued about both the TV box and the gas mileage. I asked Lana to provide us with receipts for the gas and she said that she did not have receipts to provide to us. I have an email as proof. However she told my husband on the phone when he was talking with Anthony that she never told me they didn't have receipts.That's an indication right there of the dishonesty of this company. Shame on this company for taking advantage of senior citizens and knowing full well that my husband's mother had just passed, so it was a really difficult time for us. After ranting and raving to my husband on the phone Anthony finally agreed to amend the invoice. We never did get receipts but they did refund our credit card for the TV box and part of the fuel charges. It's just too bad that you have to fight tooth and nail to force companies to do the right thing. Overall, I would tell you to just be careful when you're dealing with them and go over all of the numbers before you pay. read more

We used All Out Movers for our move this week. They did a fantastic job. They treated our furniture like it was theirs. Jim, Cameron and Robert were efficient and pleasant to work with. I hope not to need to move anytime in the near future, but if I did, I would use All Out Movers again. Thanks all. read more

Review update: Lana, we appreciate your quick response to our initial experience with your company. Our family was able to work out an amount with you guys between the initial telephone quote and the adjusters quote that ended up working out for both parties. My move went quick and smooth with the help of your movers, giving me less to worry about on my own. We would definitely use your company again, thank you! read more

All I can say is Justin, Justin, Will, Will, and Gary did a fantastic job moving all my precious belongings from Reno to Gardnerville. The best part of the move was the fact that I didn't have anything to do, but relax and watch the experts at work! And experts they all are. Each person contributed in their own special way! Great Team Work, Great People, Great Company, Great Service... Did I mention I had a Great Experience... Three times too! read more

Very professional and personable. They were equipped with the tools to do the job swiftly and efficiently. I recommend them to anyone in need of a local professional company. Good men for sure. read more

All Out Movers unloaded my 26' truck in two different locations within a 3 hour period. These guys work fast and nothing was damaged! Josh and Hector did a great job and I highly recommend them for your move. read more

Lana and Anthony are AMAZING! We have used them 3 times. Their communication is prompt. They follow up. We always had an estimate in our inbox when promised. Their team shows up on time within the arrival window quoted. Love to support local business and they are working hard to please their customers. read more

First,they show up in a U-Haul and ask US to drive to our new location. They are not insured to drive our belongings. We say "no", the lead guy complains that he has to call to have someone who is insured drive from Carson to Reno to drive the U-Haul to our new house.Right away when they start moving, they make a big dent in the wall at our old house at the bottom of the stairs. The lead mover asks me if he "has to call it in to the owner?" We tell him of course and he rolls his eyes and is annoyed that he has to report this damage. We have nice, new, LG appliances. Washer, dryer & fridge. The whole reason we hired movers was because we didn't want to damage theses specifically. Well now they are ruined. LG Stainless Steel Refrigerator dented and scratched on the visible side, HUGE dent in back grate near connection hose, and the worst is the whole front right door panel is completely scratched up TOP TO BOTTOM.Our blue LG Dryer, scraped all along the front and huge scrapes/dings in the blue paint. There are multiple scuffs (7+) on the walls in our new house. We will repair the scuffs & custom paint, but it is the principle that it was scuffed that many times by so-called "professionals."Our new laminate wood floor was also scratched and scraped. On to the next HORRIBLE thing...The lead guy goes in to my master bathroom, uses the bathroom with me right there and doesn't even ask permission!! So rude and it gets WORSE. He comes out, leaves the toilet seat up, and starts to walk off. I offer soap since there isn't any at my sink yet, and he says, "No, I'm good. I'm just moving stuff and getting my hands dirty anyway." I had no words for the disgust that crossed my face. Ready for this...they also could not physically move the washer, wooden dresser, & sofa upstairs and my husband had to HELP them get these 3 items upstairs or they wouldn't have been moved, as the 2 movers tried multiple times and claimed they had the "wrong appliance dolly." My husband shouldn't have had to lift a finger, however, we are almost 6 hours in to this AWFUL experience and we want it over. He did get a huge bruise on his leg while moving, lucky that was the only injury he sustained. From start to finish, they were with us from 10:00am until 4:20pm, 6 hours *20 minutes of COMPLETE HELL. *And about those 20 minutes, well, the driver that came from Carson COULD NOT PARK OR BACK IN THE U-HAUL! She drove around the block multiple times and tried unsuccessfully to get the truck in an unloading position. So after 20 minutes of her attempts, she is frustrated and visibly upset. So the lead mover jumps in the truck to park it. This is the same guy WHO IS NOT INSURED TO DRIVE OR MOVE THE TRUCK WITH OUR ITEMS IN IT!! BUT NOW HE CAN DRIVE IT?! This was a HORRIBLE move. We had to baby-sit for 6 hours, watching closely as things got damaged here and there. Of course we said something and asked how they could fix all of this. They referred us to the owner, Anthony. So my husband & I both spoke with him and the end result was A FINAL BILL FOR $770!! This is WITH the "discount" he is giving us! $770 DOLLARS FOR THE WORST DAY! Moving is stressful in itself. Then to have ALL of this happen and even be charged is insane. 2 new LG appliances are ruined, floor ruined, I had to repair our walls myself, my husband had to HELP MOVE, the driving incident, the bathroom incident, AND the lead mover got aggressive and in my face after we spoke to the owner. I wrote a check for $700 and told the owner he needed to come to my home to see all of this, then I'd pay him the other $70 if he thought that was fair. I honestly thought after coming to my house and seeing all of this that he'd give us some, if not all, of our money back!!! He didn't require us to pay the $70, but what about ALL OF THE DAMAGE?!! ZERO COMPENSATION. I'm pretty sure if we go to small claims court we will be refunded and possibly awarded more to repair our appliances. ***Update after issues resolved 9/25/17... The owners have paid for the flooring to be repaired and sent a check to repair our dryer. Lana was very detail oriented when wanting to make us happy and fixing the damage. She called an LG specific repairman who came and quoted both appliance repairs. Her and Anthony both came to our home to actually see and photograph the damage. She apologized profusely and was upset and embarrassed with our experience. They fired the head mover that caused so many issues that day. Lana is very professional, and pleasant to work with, even in this awkward situation where we were so upset. Knowing that they wanted to make everything right went a long way and showed their integrity in their business. They had a bad guy working for them, but that could happen to anyone. They fired him and rectified the situation with us. I'm happy with the outcome and appreciative that the owners worked to get everything right. read more

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We are doing some remodeling and painting so AOM moved our garage into PODS storage for renovation. They showed up on time and worked consistantly for 4 hours. Carefully wrapped and loaded. No damage, no complaints very pleasant. I've used them on the move into this house and will use them again during the remodel. read more

Friendly service and a smooth moving experience. Wyatt Dylan and Sean got it done right.

DO NOT TRUST THESE PEOPLE.. The apartment complex where I live underwent a mandatory renovation and this company was hired to help with moving our belongings. During the time of the renovation, I witnessed people from this company dropping, tossing, and mishandling other peoples belongings. Upon the return of MY things, my TV stand was brought back in pieces. When my wife asked for the contact information of the person in charge, they gave her a fake phone number. They must have thought we don't know how to use the internet.. I looked up the information online and contacted Anthony regarding my issues and concerns. I provided photographic proof of the damage per his request. After not hearing back for a week I reached out to him again and was told that they need to investigate the situation. Even though the person I spoke with told me that they received our things in good order and was returned damaged. Many of the others where I live are having the same issue and are also getting no response from the manager/owner. Very disappointing. Never Again. If I could give less 1 star I would. Update- The company has now gotten back to me and have brought us a new TV stand. Because they made it right, I will give them a better review and would consider using them in the future. I'm going to give a 3 star only because it took over a week to hear back from them and because they originally lied to my wife regarding the contact information. read more

This company was recommended by the assisted living facility "The Lodge". We needed to do a local move of a small 550 sq ft apartment out of the assisted living facility. We had packed the apartment and had moved all but 10 boxes and furniture. There was a king mechanical bed that needed taken apart and moved. I was assured by the owner of the moving company that the movers could do this and reassemble the bed at our location. I had moved all of the furniture into the apartment and many additional things in the prior 4 months. This took about 3 hours. I assumed the move-out would take max 3-4 hours with delivery. I received a call that the movers (2) on location were unable to figure out how to dissemble the bed. The movers had been on location for 5 hours. I went to the move site and assisted in disassembling the bed. I assisted finishing the move which took an additional hour. Upon arrival the 2 movers were able to empty the truck and move everything in just over an hour. The mover agreed that he would take care of the cost of the truck due to the time the move took. I spoke with Anthony after the move and expressed my concerns of the length of time the move took. Anthony was not personally involved with the physical move, so was not aware of why the move took so long. He did agree with me having seen the apartment for the moving estimate, that 7-8 hours was too long. Anthony made things right by deducting the cost of the truck and two hours of moving time. I appreciate his willingness to follow up and work towards having satisfied customers. read more

All Out Movers - This is when I arrive after 5 hour of packing. This is a 28 foot truck - Movers Near Me - Reno, Nevada

The movers arrived on time and spend the day making two loads across town. Jason and Justin were pleasant and good to work with. They were moving a 2,700 sft home of mostly furniture. All our personal belongings were out already. But we had some heavy furniture like the China Cabinet and the big mattresses. I was impressed that the guys worked without breaks and stuffed the 26' U-haul almost to the roof and we still had a small second load. The furniture was taken out of a one story and put away in a two story where some of the heavy stuff had to go to the top floor. Jason was friendly and would notify me on how it was going. He amazed me on the weight he could lift. Both men were strong and tried to use care with the furniture. They were also concerned to get the furniture to the proper room and Jason was going to hood up the washer and I told him "forget it" my husband could do that. We were just so thankful that we had help in this move because our last move (less than 2 years ago) we moved it all ourselves with some help from our son, and we are Seniors. I don't ever want to do that again at our age because so many things can go wrong with our health. I gave four stars because I am very picky and although it is rare to get perfection, these guys were good. What they thought was going to be a four hour job turned into 8 or 9. So I think next time it might be best to have the supervisor look at the job to give a better estimate of time. I felt bad that they had to stay later when they thought they had another job behind mine. But I was impressed that they stayed to get the job done even though the second load was so small (but it was important as it was the washer and dryer). And I was totally impressed that the supervisor came to meet us and check on his workers. Don't hesitate to use this company and ask for Jason and Justin. read more

I emailed All-Out Movers in mid-January, thinking I had an apt I had been looking for for sometime. So excited to be moving first of Feb. Asked for estimate before end of Jan. Received date/time of estimate to be done. When move fell thru, I promptly notified All-out Movers, and expected acknowledgement of cancellation. Heard back nothing, so emailed cancellation again, and asked for acknowledgement. Morning of canceled date/time, young man arrived and didn't know I had canceled same. I emailed Lona? third time asking what I should think of her reliability. Once again, no response. I drove to office at 1894 E. William, Suite 4-640. That address is very small business complex, maybe 5 businesses. There is no All-Out Movers occupying an office there. read more

Moving is always hard. Having movers that do a great job despite a few small obstacles was great. All Out Movers called and coordinated in a timely fashion. They showed up when scheduled with the truck and efficiently moved everything out of the storage unit. Despite not having a driver for the moving truck, which was a little weird, All Out Movers gained back all the stars by the job they did moving my stuff into the house. Despite being two skinny guys, they loaded all that furniture and heavy boxes of books in under the estimated time. They even organized all the boxes according to what room they went in in nice little piles which was a helpful surprise. Despite, "Not liking people from California," as the moving guy said, he was extremely nice to us. Helpful with assembling the coffee table and putting heavy furniture where it needed to go. Dude, I don't like California either, that's why I left. Nevada IS better. read more

I've moved about 30 times in my life, at least 20 as an adult. And boy do we have moving stories that would make you decide to just stay in the house you have now! Today's with ALL OUT MOVERS was a very good move. We've moved two blocks down the street, we've moved across country, we've moved from college to our first job across country and we've moved internationally. Some moves were on our own (100% packed, loaded, transported and unloaded by us); some moves were employer-paid door to door, and a few like today's - our pocket book, but their muscles: we packed in one city; hired loaders, then hired a transport company (U-Pack - a great option) to truck it across country. And here we are in Carson City, looking for someone to be the muscles for us. Called several places, all seemed fine but then called All Out Movers. Talked w/ both Lana and Anthony on two separate calls. Each time personable, proactive, professional, knew what they were talking about. Gave us reasonable bid/cost estimate, were clear on items/situations that could cost more or less. Last minute call from me the day before the move about the challenges of the the particular trailer and its ramp were understood by Anthony - they've had experience with that type of ramp and the crew (Jason and Rich!) were briefed and knew what to do. Our assigned team, Jason and Rich, worked hard and straight through.... I had to practically cajol them to stop for a water break a couple of times. They were quick, accommodating to a few initial changes in organizing the landing, caught on quickly to my madness's method, incredibly safe and sure with the heavy stuff. They kept us apprised as to the load's positioning/condition as they worked their way through the trailer.... overall: excellent communicators, cheerful workers, efficient, quick, strong and competent. Bill closure had no surprises, all was done in the time estimated. While I can't judge them against anybody else in town, with my extensive roster of moving experiences (and many of them distressing) ..... I can say I'd be confident that any future move I make here and using All Out Movers I'd have an equally satisfactory result as today's. And, hands down one of the best moves in my extensive roster. Thank you guys for taking take care of our stuff for us...! read more

THIS is an excellent moving company, I only needed the house full of furniture moved a mile away to a storage, but Rich and his helper did an excellent job and got the job done in the time quoted and nothing got broke or damaged, so I was very satisfied with the job they did. Good job guys-I'd recommend you to anyone any day, thanks for making a stressful time not so stressful. read more

Josh Nathan Travis Bryce are the most awesome movers! They are efficient, hard works. Made our move stress free. We could thank them enough. We have a grand piano they move that better than the professional piano movers! We are couldn't be happier for their performance. Definitely call them again if we ever need their service! In addition they are honest and very fair price. Thumbs up! read more

Avoid this company at all costs. They're terrible. After confirming with them that I would have four movers and supplies for the move, they sent two movers and no supplies. This company requires that you have and drive your own truck, that's fine, but they left the movers at my house with no transportation of their own. They asked me to take them to lunch and to get snacks. Bizarre. In the end, a job that was supposed to take 5 hours stretched to around 9 hours and forced us to miss in important event that night. I informed the company that I had an event and that they told me we would be done in time and asked for them to return the next day and they refused. When we went back to our old house there were whole drawers and closets that they hadn't packed. At the end of the day the movers expressed their displeasure that I was not tipping. Tips are earned, not guaranteed. They did not earn one. read more

All out movers did an all out awesome job for us when they moved us from one apartment to another. The move wasn't easy, lots of antiques and they handled them beautifully nothing got broken or chipped. Everything packed very professionally, we are so pleased we had All Out Movers to help us get over a huge move with such a breeze! Thank you!!! read more

Recently hired all out movers to do a in town move. There was a minor issue during the move. Anthony went out of his way to make things right. It is very clear that he cares about the satisfaction of his customers. I will certainly use their services in the future. read more

They moved our office and they were terrific. They care about customer satisfaction, and we appreciated that a great deal. They are keepers and should be on anyone's shortlist for office move planning and comparisons. read more

Highly recommend All Out Movers!!! They came out even during heavy smoke due to wildfires. Loaded our pod like magic! The guys were super conscientious about our belongings. And were actually cheerful and positive! A rare pleasure! Thank you All Out Movers!!! read more

Thank you Anthony and crew for helping out in such a short notice and taking care of the military community. I would highly recommend this company to anyone in the greater Carson City area. They took care of my belongings and were consummate professionals during the move. read more

Avoid this company! We like to use local companies but this isn't the one to use. We scheduled two moves one day right after the next. (Our house and our parents) The movers came 2 hours late on the first day and 8 hours late on the second day. They were scheduled to arrive both days at 8-8:30 am both days. Arrived the first day at 10:30, the second day 5 p.m!!! The second move wasn't finished until 10:30 pm. We were charged $120 for travel time for the movers both days. (One of the movers lived around the corner from us) When I called the office and emailed to discuss the bill my call/email was not returned. With this being said, the movers were very kind and knowledgeable. The first moving day we were told one of the movers was sick, but in talking to them neither was scheduled to work that day. The second move the movers didn't realize we were on the schedule for 8-8:30 am. I actually felt sorry for them being put in the middle of it. I have shared this information with our realtor so that they're aware of how this company is run. read more

Professional and efficient. The crew worked quickly and carefully. Their expertise was evident as they disassembled and wrapped furniture and loaded the truck. They met all the agreed timelines. I appreciate how hard they worked to make this a good experience and to meet the expectations of the customer. read more

DO NOT USE!! Furniture was broken and was noted on the day of delivery- no problem they said, just submit a claim. Glass pieces were broken. Picture frames were all scratched- they were just laid flat and unwrapped in a box. Some frames were completely damaged because the box they used did not fully cover the picture; they used the frame as the end of the box and then taped it, tearing off the finish. Tools from the garage were broken because they were not "packed" but were just thrown into the box. Saw blades unwrapped were thrown in with garden tools. And some items (car moldings) were too big for the box and so they just bent them to fit. Some of the screws from an entertainment center were removed and never packed. Bolts on a brass bed frame were sheared off. And the list goes on - almost $1900! I have sent several letters- they have refused delivery and will not answer my request for payment for damages. It took days to get a final invoice from them. When I did. It was marked paid in full! THEN ON MY CREDIT CARD BILL I NOTICED A CHARGE FOR OVER $1800. I DISPUTED THE CHARGE AND THEY COULD NOT JUSTIFY THE CHARGE. Note- from some research I did this is not the only time they have not paid a damage claim. BEWARE!!!! read more

Justin, Justin, Matt and Will were amazing! These guys moved our whole Storage unit to our new house in record time! Prompt, professional and friendly. I don't want to move anytime soon, but if I did I would use them again in a heartbeat. Would recommend their services to anyone! Thanks for taking such good care of us! read more

They were great. Picked up the phone right away and set up a date. Jim called me the day before the move. Came on time and worked hard and efficiently. Wasted no time at all. Went to new house unloaded and put furniture together in record time. Jim and Devonta were fantastic. Worth every penny! read more

The crew who actually did the moving was great despite losing one worker to illness and it was a very hot day! They set up one of my bedrooms and placed everything where I wanted it. I was happy with the move and nothing was broken or nicked. read more

Find another company if you don't want to be overcharged and then lied to regarding your refund of the overcharged amount. Their employee even stated we were only going to be charged a total of $300. We had already paid $150 deposit and after job was done we were only supposed to pay another $150. Instead they charged $410 after job was done. For a total of $560, not $300 like we were quoted and that their employee verified when talking to someone on phone. NO contact or paperwork of any kind. read more

Shady business practices. Does not provide all information verbally reference item charges before taking a credit card info and charging a $150 deposit. When called owner after receiving invoice through email, Anthony claimed he did tell me verbally and refused to refund my deposit - even though date booked was over a week away. Would like others to be aware and warned! read more

Our move could have been a complete disaster but All Out Movers with Anthony at its helm saved the day for us. We are so grateful to Anthony. We were in the middle of a move. We were loading the truck when the guy helping me got very sick very fast and had to quit helping me. I finished loading the other half of the truck myself which was exhausting. Quite a task when I am almost 60. My dilemma was that there would be nobody to help me unload the truck and move the furniture into a storage unit in Carson City. So I started calling around and Anthony responded within minutes. We made arrangements to meet him at our storge location. He was right on time and helped unload the truck and load it up into our storage unit. He did most of the work himself. He was very methodical and organized. He unloaded everything onto the driveway infront of the storage unit first so that he could figure out the best way to load the storage unit in order to make sure everything would fit. I loaded the storage unit like a puzzle and did a wonderful job. Anthony was a breath of fresh air considering earlier in the morning the guy I hired to pick up the u-Haul and help me with the move did not even bother to show up, so I had to scrammble to get another helper in the morning who unfortunately got sick. Thank you so much All Out Movers. read more

I have moved several times in the last 20 years here in Reno. This company is amazing!!! Highly recommend to all. The crew was friendly and professional . They wrapped all my furniture to protect as well as used clean blankets. I never once heard my furniture hit a wall. Nothing was broken. Overall this was by far the best experience ever. Moving is hard on its own . Give them a call today!!! read more

Nate, Josh, and Omar did an amazing job of moving my parents out of their house! They were incredibly efficient and careful, making the whole process less stressful. These guys work really hard! I'd recommend highly to anyone. read more

From start to finish my experience with this company was great. Responded promptly to my quote request providing me the information I requested (not a "Call us and we'll tell you over the phone" like other companies). Movers showed up on time and had my Penske truck unloaded quickly with no issues. Highly recommended and would definitely use again. Thank you! read more

Cannot recommend these guys enough. Called them at the last minute when another local mover left us hanging with no help. Called All Out Movers and they were more than willing to help out and sent 2 guys over within an hour. Explained we needed help loading and unloading the heavier items we had. They got most of what we needed done quickly and carefully, and even stayed an extra hour to ensure we had all the bigger items moved. The movers were very friendly, understanding and did a great job. We were surprised when the owner even stopped by to check on things. Very friendly man. Much thanks All Out Movers. If we ever move again, we know who to call!! read more

Anthony and his team are the best! When my scheduled mover cancelled at the last minute I was left in the lurch. I called, Anthony answered right away and had someone at my house within a few hours. They were very professional and I would highly recommend him and his team. Thank you Anthony :) read more

I debated on 4 or 5 stars.... but ultimately decided, since I would recommend with confidence, it was worthy of a 5. I had received a few moving quotes, but had chosen to go with a All Out, even though they were higher priced, because they had a solid business. I wasn't just getting someone showing up to move stuff. This was important to me, because I was not home for my move. I was living elsewhere when my home closed, and I had to get everything moved and cleaned. Now- moves are stressful any way, and not without their own missteps ... and I will say there were a couple of small things that made me worry during the move, but all in all, at the end, when I arrived 2 days after the move to just check on things, my expectations had been met. The staff is friendly, service oriented. I was a little concerned that the mover didn't seem to be aware no one would be home on his first call to me.... (since that was why I had gone with the more expensive co. in the first place....) but he redeemed himself when I realized he was just trying to keep me in the loop. They followed my instructions left and called me to verbally review the list to ensure everything had been covered. Some things have been misplaced, but I trust they are here, and that happens in any move. They significantly underquoted me, but I did have the option to stop the move at any time to stay in budget, but I knew I had left the move in less of a condition I had promised on the day of the quote. They went easy on me for the cleaning fee as a courtesy I think for the higher than anticipated moving fee. Whatever the reason, it was appreciated. They did have to wait for an insured driver, as others have noted, but they called me and stopped the clock. They assembled my beds for me and did a nice job. They put furniture post pads under my furniture so I could move the heavy stuff if I wanted it in a diff spot upon my return, without damaging the floors. This was not your average move.... I had lock boxes with keys, dog sitters, permission slips, 2 pages of instructions.... there was a lot to coordinate, and they literally owned it and moved EVERYTHING. Even the cupboards I didn't think they'd touch, that I didn't have time to pack. Thanks! I know stuff happens with any move- but I would feel confident recommending All Out. I can't speak to the problem resolution, as I didn't have any items to resolve, but I did have to ask a few follow up questions days later, and I did get responses that were prompt. read more