I thought long and hard before leaving this but feel it's needed so others are not put in the same spot. We dropped our dog off the first of November for started gun dog training. There were a couple red flags but we had waited a couple months to get her in So we wanted to give it a shot. After the first month we came back to visit and see her progress. We were rushed through a quick 20 to 30 minute session. She was on leash only and he was using a lot of Ecollar for basic heal and sit. we Were told he start spending more time with her and would be working off lease the next month. End of month two we go for another visit. Again a lot of e collar while she is on leash. She was very skiddish and cowering this time. We did basic heal, here, sit, place. She struggled with most of it and it appeared she hadn't worked it much. He mentioned she had had no off leash work and assured us she would get more attention going forward. We also noticed she had started to develop sores on her back legs. It was at this time he said she was going to stay longer than 4 months. He said he needed to keep her 5 months and probably wouldn't get her to where we initially discussed. During month 3 he sent Us a video of her doing a 30 second force fetch session. When the snow storm hit we had to go pick her up. After picking her up we discovered the sores on her legs had progressed and she now had multiple draining sores on her neck from either the choke or E collar. When asked about them Tim said he had no idea how they got there and would ask his worker. We never got an answer. It was very apparent she still had not received any off leash work, any Retreive Work, or really any of the training schedule and items we had agreed upon. Tim seems like a nice enough guy but it's really just him and a hourly worker. It appears they have more dogs than they can handle or properly train. We sent her over for an assessment with another gun dog trainer and he essentially confirmed they hadn't spent much time with her and whoever was working with her month 3 had crossed over from discipline to abusive behavior. We are sending her to this trainer who will basically have to start the process over the right way. I would hate to see anyone else's dog go though this is the reason I felt compelled to write this. read more