I have been going to Serkan for years now and he is the absolute best. He is a perfectionist when it comes to color and haircuts and always leaves me feelings beautiful. highly suggest booking your appointment here with Serkan if you are in the Brooklyn area. read more

Soooooooo happy I took a chance on this place!! I made the stupid mistake of cutting my own hair and somehow completely butchered it. I was freaked out and embarrassed, but too broke to entertain going to get it fixed. Then I remembered I had a sizable Groupon credit! Hooray! Well I bought, then canceled, 2 other salon's deals before this, after calling to make an appointment and both times having really bad service. Not a good sign! So I was really nervous about going here after all that. But as soon as I met my stylist, Jenny, I knew I was in good hands! She was so sweet; totally didn't judge me for my horrible chop job which I absolutely appreciated. The salon was beautiful, clean and everyone very friendly. And now, I absolutely LOVE MY HAIR! Jenny is a miracle worker between the cut to work with/fix my ill-attempted "layering" cut I'd given myself and the stunningly gorgeous highlights she created. I'm so pleased and will 1000% be going back! read more

I had a last minute appointment with Serkan. He was great. Super friendly and communicative. My hair is very curly, damaged and he knew what he needed to do and gave me a great cut and blowout. Will definitely be back. read more

I cheated on my hair dresser. Yes, you read right but don't hang me just yet. So I decided to go dark after 15+ years of having light hair. I missed my dark hair and wanted to see it again. So...I went to a salon near me and got it done. I liked it but after a month I was missing my light hair. It started to turn orange and I said I must call Serkan to the rescue. My back was turned when he walked in and I heard, " you colored your hair dark"? My heart sank to my feet, my heart was racing, I got the cold sweats and I turned whiter than what I already am. I turned around and said "heyyyyyy." That didn't work at all. I got caught red handed. Serkan wasn't happy but he did turn my burnt, crunchy munchy hair back to life. Moral of the story, when you have something good don't mess it up even if it's hair. Sorry Serkan! Love your work and see you soon darling. read more

Ive been going to Salon Evolution for years now. I absolutely Love and trust Beth with my hair. She would not stop until she makes it perfect. It's an absolute pleasure to have someone you know that would leave you looking and feeling phenomenal at the end. I cannot thank her enough. My process takes a few hours and she nails it every time! Thank you! P.s. she is using the latest products. Nothing cheap. Everything the best and this is the reason why everything comes out gorgeous. read more

I don't remember the last time I left a salon feeling so confident. I knew I wanted to go lighter I just wasn't sure how blond I wanted to be. Serkan was amazing! He and I sat down and discussed what I wanted and he gave some suggestions and I really felt like I could trust him. He did such an amazing job and I literally can't thank him enough. I came in thinking I would just get a color job, but I ended up getting baylage which I love so much. He also gave me a fabulous haircut, cutting just as much as I asked (which doesn't happen at every salon). The salon itself has this really high class vibe and it's pretty decently priced for the services you get. I'm glad I found my go to place :) I've never been excited for a haircut but now I kinda of am because I get to come back haha. read more

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$110 = Horrible unfriendly customer service, lied about a deep conditioning treatment when they are only apply basic regular conditioner to your hair, tell your that you will sit with this conditioner for 30min as if it's different from the regular conditioners at home. Hairstylist scissors we not good quality which makes a difference on the effect of the shaft of the hair once cut. DO NOT BE FILLED BE HIGH PRICES, they will not provide high quality and or standard service. Worst 9am apt I have ever had. The hairstylist LANA cut my hair uneven. read more

Prior to coming here, I went to a different salon to get balayage done for the summer. They bleached my hair three times to get my hair to ashy blonde-- which is so much lighter than what I asked for, they didn't even do balayage on my hair when I clearly asked for that the second I sat on the chair. (I'll insert a photo of what I wanted and what I got) Long story short, my hair was damaged, not what I wanted and I was beyond disappointed. I'm never going back there again. My friend recommended me to Serkan, he was welcoming and explained everything that needed to be done in order to achieve the look I wanted. Serkan took his time and worked his magic into my hair. He did amazing. He brought my hair back to life again and I couldn't be more obsessed with it. Thank you!! What I had done: Balayage Darkened my roots Brightening My process took about three and a half hours. Serkan was great! He's my go-to now!! read more

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Tonight Beth updates my cut by "squaring" the bottom of my usual tress request, lots and lots of layers Bethway... her way. We chitchatted easily as she deliberated away for an hour. I love her. She's like an old girl friend who'd never Not let you know her God honest truth about almost anything you'd likely ask her. Beth is a hair care/product phenom and coddles my hair like an infant. Going to her is like bringing my hair on a honeymoon getaway- really. And compared to a lot of women, I don't do it nearly enough for all its done for me. Color by Beth, 6.1.17 update Grew tired of outgrown balayage so we decided to darker. Beth was a big proponent of the most natural look. Results are below in the newest pictures and I'm in love! Always the expert- go to someone who treats your hair like it's a baby, then you know your hair is in the hands of a doctor. Layers by Beth. In the most unassuming way, she makes you feel at ease and that she is in charge. Beth said, show me your pictures and listened as I showed her 10 pictures of dos and don'ts specific to my hair type, and specific, of course, to my taste. Ask a lot now, and not after the fact is ALWAYS my motto when it comes to hair! She got it right away. A lot of volume while keeping it long. I could see concurrence in her eyes. As we chatted away our lives easily, Beth sculpted. Minutely. She reassured me that she took off a little at a time and had to see how it laid on me. The 3rd? time Beth went around to add layers, she said it would be "perfect"... the "perfect length". I kept on agreeing. It was hard to say no to her. Beth told me to sit forward and play with my hair the way I would style it all home so I ran my hand down my head and positioned the front like so? It was light and luscious. I shook my head a few times too. I bowed my head so that she could see how the layers laid that way- a few more adjustments. The layering was looking on point... I mean on fleek... I mean damn good. Beth said stand so I did. A few more cut-sways and we were seconds from the final product. I met a hair psychologist today who gifted me with generous volume which she dubbed "fat hair" and we both agreed, that was the only acceptable time to call anything FAT. I love it, I love her- go see Beth. She's sweet and she takes her time with you. Best of all, she knows what she's doing. read more

Salon Evolution - My two toned hair cure... back to basics. #blackisthenewblack #magicbybeth - Hair Salons Near Me - Brooklyn, New York

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After a less than stellar experience at another popular Brooklyn Salon, I was left with damaged hair and an uneven balayage that really made me feel like I wasted my time and money. After finding Serkan on Yelp and IG, I decided to make an appointment to come in. He was honest about the condition of my hair and what I could expect. He was thorough, nice and answered all my questions, keeping me in the loop throughout the process. 5 hrs (yes, 5hrs lol) later i was left with a beautiful balayage. My hair is healthier, softer and I have been complimented on even my worst hair days. Thank you Serkan and Salon Evolution! I will be back in a couple months. read more

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My hair is absolutely to die for!!!! Really I can easily say it right now thanks to Serkan and entire Salon Evolution team! This place is one of the Best in Brooklyn, or even entire New York City.. I moved to Texas several years ago but kept my hairdresser, as it was impossible to find someone anywhere close to Serkan. Good thing I need to travel to New York every quarter as my company has their main office in the city. Every time visit here for work, I religiously schedule an appointment with Serkan to make sure my locks stay taken care of. Not sure what secrets he had, the results are always over my expectations! read more

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I've gone for a haircut once here. Nothing too extraordinary, just a decent cut. The guy who cut my hair was a little judgemental about my previous haircut. I ignored it though and tipped well regardless. The reason I went was the convenience. I cancelled my second appointment I made for balyage because of the price, tried to make a third appointment today and they said I couldn't EVER make appointments with them because of the cancellation which they phrased as a "no show" from 5 months ago. Rude customer service. Brooklyn is full of amazing salons, it's really just you losing your customer base, keep that in mind! Have a great day!xx read more

Amazing Service and People! I knew this was going to be a great experience from the moment I spoke with them on the phone to make an appointment. The first clue was that the cutter referred to the front desk person as "my secretary," rather than the old Brooklyn euphemism, "the girl." Second, they let me talk directly to a cutter, who set up an appointment for me. When my roommate and I got there, the cutter they had set me up with noted that his specialties were long hair and color, and that Beth was the specialist for short hair. I agreed to let her work on me, and I was not disappointed! The cut looks great, she was pleasant and really listened to what I wanted, and she even managed to fit my roommate in for a cut (which also came out great. We will definitely be repeat customers! read more

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I travel from Long Island all the way to Brooklyn For my daughter Her hair look very bad before they work on her ...it took very long time to fix her hair my daughter and me was impressed with the job they did Thank you so much read more

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Serkan is a very talented, patient and honest man. He gave me a great transformation and really didnt expect such an amazing result! Couldnt believe that my hair would look that pretty bayalage, i was amazed with the color and so much volume! Everyone at Salon Evolution were so nice and they even offer me a cup of tea while waiting My friends went crazy about my hair and kept asking me where i had it done lol. I highly recommend this place and i will keep coming back! read more

Salon Evolution - Thanks Serkan! You did an amazing job - Hair Salons Near Me - Brooklyn, New York

I went to salon evolution last Sunday to get highlights plus color of my choice and my mom got single process color to cover her grey. Fast forward I specifically told my stylist I wanted gold brown color for my highlights. I don't know what color she used or didn't use because my hair half dark blonde and half light blonde with only 1 -2 strands medium golden brown. My mom wanted chocolate color for her hair but her stylist said it won't color because my mom has been using box dye from store for a long time so she settled with light mocha color. Tuesday my mom washed her hair out and saw her roots were turning grey. I called the salon and they told me to come in on Mothers day and they will fix it. Once we got there, my moms stylist said that my moms roots were growing and she can't color it again because my mom has thick hair and a lot of color was used the first time. when asked about the mocha brown color (which looks completely black btw) she said that my mom came in the first time with dark roots and red strands (ok, your point? she is paying you to color a certain color, its your job to listen) anyway all my mom got was sorry there is nothing we can do. ME on the other hand my stylist said that she was willing to glaze my hair the color I wanted for an extra $65 because I have a lot of hair?? like are you for real? when I first told you last Sunday that U wanted medium golden brown then why do blonde? overall I am disappointed, they made the mistake and they need to correct it since we paid over $350 total for both services. We will never go back to them again. At least be professional and correct the mistakes you made. wasted half of our mothers day. Im sure they were in a hurry to leave. but Im disappointed, for the price we paid, both of us aren't satisfied. I recommend you all to look else where. My hair is still dark and light blonde with 2 strands of brown My moms roots are grey, and the stylist said my moms new roots are growing from her scalp when that's not possible because when she used box dye no new roots grew.. like make it make sense. read more

I stumble across Salon Evolution after a careful search for a perfect place for my hair. I went in for my appointment with Beth and she is the real deal I love how she took the time to get to know me and ask me what I wanted. BUT most importantly how she treated my hair with careful eyes she took all the dead ends and did it so well that she maintained my hair long and added volume to it. She styled my whole head. After my haircut she showed me how to naturally add volume to my hair just by running my fingers through. Simple tips but sooo helpful . So thankful to Beth I get a beautiful haircut and some extra tips! read more

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One star is being generous. Hamza Tiftikci attempted a balayage and completely ruined my hair. Not only did he dye my hair bleach blonde after explaining I wanted a golden balayage, he gave me attitude when having to fix it. He had the nerve to read my messages while I was sitting in the chair and ask if my friend could not come back with me. The whole procedure my hair was yanked and burned with the water and blow dryer. Very rude, unprofessional and incapable of performing a quality balayage. Do not let him ruin your hair!! read more

I've been looking for a beauty salon for a while and felt like what I was looking was impossible .... Not until I meet SHADE. She's the best artist of all. From balayage to haircut to makeup she's AMAZING. I've been doing my hair with her for a while now and each time I fall in love over and over with my hair. Couple of weeks ago I did my makeup and .... I was the prettiest girl. I can't believe how talented this girl is. I would highly recommend her to anyone. She's the sweetest person you'll meet. Every girl need Shade in their life. Shade is the guru of hair and makeup but recently got a certificate for a facial and WOW ... Kenul (I believe is the girls name ) she's amazing. She took her time while the service and also gave me some great tips and tricks on taking better care of my skin. I've been to many beauty spas before but nothing compares to my girls. Shade aka Shadije and Kenul are a dream team. I promise you'll thank me later. read more

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Went to Salon Evolution for the first time because my friend recommended it to me. She said she has been going to Shadee for many years so I decided to try this salon out. I had such an amazing experience. Shadee was so sweet and listened to what I wanted. She gave her honestly and professional recommendations on what would look good in a hair cut and what wouldn't. She gave me recommendations on products to use to make my hair better. Such a pleasant experience! Will be coming back to her for my next cut! read more

I am so happy I found this salon on Yelp. The place looks so beautiful and I just couldn't take my eyes of their gorgeous chandeliers. Who ever was in charge of the decor definitely did a great job! I had a balayage and a haircut done by Murat and the result came out fantastic! Murat is a true artist who pays attention to details and makes sure you get what you want. read more

Salon Evolution - New style by Murat - Hair Salons Near Me - Brooklyn, New York

Review is about a week late! But it was a great experience! Everything was a last minute thing. It was my birthday and well, I wanted a change. Most places required an appointment. The places that didn't, well, they personally weren't to my liking. After searching and searching, I came across salon evolution. I went in and boy my awkwardness took over me. But that was my own fault, Im very awkward lol. They were super friendly and they gave me the price after I told them what I wanted. They offered me tea and coffee. I had no idea what color I wanted. So my hair was left on the hands of Serkan. I explained to him what I wanted but I didn't know what color to chose. He asked me if I could take his suggestion and I did. I did stay for a couple of hours but that's reasonable. The end results, were great! I loved it! It was a little out of my comfort zone and but I really did like it! I look forward to coming back! read more

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So this was my first time ever coming here and I highly recommend for first timers who are thinking about giving them a try. I have a flight tomorrow to go on vacation & Brooklyn got hit pretty good with a nice little snow storm. My usual hair spot was closed & no way I could make it to go tomorrow so I googled hair salons in Sheepshead bay & the first to pop up on the list was Salon Evolution. I was sketchy at first because I'm not one to step out of the box or comfort zone but I really wanted something different to go on vacation with so I called up the salon & thank goodness they were open. Made a quick appointment & arrived at the salon to be greeted by a very sweet lady who did a great job washing my hair & making me feel comfortable quickly. After my wash I was sat in Sekran's chair. He asked me a couple of hair questions & how I was thinking about cutting it. I had absolutely no idea what to do to my hair & he suggested if I was interested giving myself a lighter look a soft ombré & that's what was on my mind but I was afraid to go for it lol. Also gave me a nice cut (my hair was almost down my back but I wanted something short) For color he reassured me he wouldn't go too crazy Incase I was afraid of how bright it would be but it came out just how I wanted. I will definitely be coming back here I highly recommend this place to first timers who are sketchy but want to branch out. Give it a try, it might be a little run for your pocket (not bad at all especially for the job at hand starting out with completely dark hair) but I will say it was very worth it. Wanna spoil yourself and not get a half assed outcome? it is worth investing in! Don't hesitate ladies. Not a lot of spots in Sheepshead Bay that can get down like this either :) read more

Salon Evolution - Serkan is amazing!!!!! Found on Yelp first time and I will be back. He gave me the courage to cut my hair ! Highly recommend - Hair Salons Near Me - Brooklyn, New York

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I used to go to this salon many times with two different people. I liked them both but eventually one of them is just someone who I rather stay clear from. I used to rave about this place to others and my photo is one of the pics on yelp from amazing results I had in the past. However, I had an incident a few months ago that I didnt think needed to be shared and just let go.However, I think it is worth mentioning even if its been a while. I had highlights done in the summer and during my appointment the girl who did my hair does an amazing job coloring and foiling which is awesome and nice. However my last session in the summer was everything but great. In fact it was horrible! I had bleach in my hair and I was made to go under the heat. I was left there for a while to the point where my hair was frying and i can hear it sizzle. The girl who did my hair kept talking to a co worker and barely paid attention to me. As soon as my appointment was done my hair was brushed and there was a lot of hair falling out on the brush. I left thinking that its normal some hair loss from bleach but it was literal clumps. The front of my head where the front layers are it looked like bangs that I did not ask for. I called the next day and the same girl Fabiana was asked to put a conditioner or something to fix it and it worked. The owner asked her to style as a curtesy which I appreciated along with free shampoo and conditioner to fix the damage. Nice touch and only reason I am giving this a 2 star. Fabianna had an attitude the whole time as if she was in disbelief about what happened or and she did not look happy. I understand things happen but do not take your stuff out on paying clients who you ruined their hair and now asked to fix. I wanted to thank her for her services aftewards and I realized she blocked me. This experience left such a bad taste in my mouth. I did not want to write a bad review at first but I feel like it needs to be shared. As much as the place is cute and offers better prices than others as well as a kind owner. It is not worth it when a stylist treats you a certain way, the damage they cause and how they handle it afterwards. read more

Salon Evolution saved my hair! I came in with a horrible, grown out dye job that left my ends pure yellow. I've never been to Salon Evolution before and upon research, everyone recommended Serkan as the best blonde colorist. I came in for a consultation before and Serkan was very nice and straightforward - something I look for in a stylist. I came in a day later and the salon wasn't busy. With one photo and a few words, he was able to understand exactly what I wanted better than I did! Serkan spent all of his time making sure I had the precise color and tone for my balayage. He then included a deep conditioning treatment which I appreciated since my hair was so lifeless. It blends flawlessly with my natural, root color and I know that coming to Serkan was the best decision! The rest of the staff at Salon Evolution are also professional and courteous and I will never go to a different salon again! read more

Salon Evolution - Salon Evolution saved my hair! The amazing work of Serkan! - Hair Salons Near Me - Brooklyn, New York

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I live in the capital district of New York but the illness of a family member brought me back to Brooklyn, where I moved from over forty years ago. After a month here I realized I need a haircut so asked friends for recommendations. One was Salon Evolution in Sheepshead Bay. After calling and confirming they accept walk-ins, I walked in around 1:00. A quiet young woman was assigned to wash my hair and a hairdresser named Julia was assigned to do the cut. Julia and I talked about my hair, she looked at the existing cut and I told her about my lifestyle. I don't use a towel on my hair, preferring a technique called "plopping" (check youTube), in which a 100% cotton tee shirt is used to dry the hair, causing natural waves. my preference is a natural look so I use no electrical appliances....no hair dryer or iron. We agreed on a cut of just under one inch and Julia started cutting. We chatted as she cut and after the haircut, she combed it, I rejected the blow dry and we laughed when she said she has no tee shirt. Julia used a little mousse and we hand scrunched with a final result that dried beautifully. I love my hair! This salon's hairdresser heard me and that's the sign of a really good salon. I'll definitely return there for other services. read more

This place is just amazing i would highly recomand it and go back here again the turkish guy whos name serkan did a great job on my he is just amazing the best thank u again read more

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Based on the Yelp reviews, I made an appointment with Shade. I got a haircut and a glaze. The salon itself is quite nice on the inside - I've been to a lot more "high end" salons in Manhattan that are considerably worse than this - it's clean, the chairs are comfortable, and everything looks fairly new Shade is sweet and lovely and clearly knows what she's doing without making much of a fuss. I knew exactly what I wanted without bringing in photos, she got the color swatches for the glaze, and we made sure we were on the same page. I'm getting back to my natural color eventually, so I asked for the glaze to even out some old balayage that is just reddish and brassy in tone. My hair cut was exactly what I asked for. It was probably the first haircutting experience since living in NYC I didn't a) hate my hair and b) feel ripped off. I'm not exactly sure why I was quoted $70 on the phone and charged $105, but it was still a good price and I was happy with it, so I left it. I would definitely return if I stay in NYC for longer. read more

I had wonderful experience at Solon Evolution. All stuffs are nice. I would like to thanks to Serman. He is well professional and He makes sure that I am comfortable. I recommend to go and see him to do your hair. I am very happy with my hair. read more

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Very talented stylists here and reasonable prices for NYC. I'm always happy with Shadje's work and the care she puts into listening and understanding exactly what you're looking for. She always understands my questions and takes time to explain things and gives her input. She's experienced and confident. read more

Bunch of crooks! I just called and asked how much a haircut was. The girl on the phone goes we don't have a set price. What is that?! Do you charge based off of air? If you like me $50 if you don't $100?! Avoid at all costs and go somewhere where they tell you the cost of the service not make it up based on n read more

It was my first time getting my hair colored so I was very nervous. Shadé took such great care of me. She took me through it step by step and the outcome was AMAZING! Thank you so much Shadé. read more

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Let me begin this review from the first thought that came into my head with my first visit to Evolution salon-"I found her!".Shade is the professional I was looking for a few last couple of years.I trusted her with my hair completely,I just described to her my idea in general, and let her experience and knowledge do the rest...didn't expect a lot, to not be disappointed later....and finally the result was just brilliant!She totally understood what I wanted and made it even more beautiful.Shade is very charismatic, not pushy and comfortable to talk to also, she gave me a few nice advices about my hair and style in general.Definitely going to see her again..and again..and again:)))PS: even kinda didn't want to write this review to not share Shade's time with other clients;))) read more

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Been searching high and low for somewhere to cut my long curly mane. When pulled taught it was mid back. Due to stress all my hair was falling out in massive golf ball sizes every time I washed it. It was a very traumatic experience. I was very attached to my hair and people associated me with my wild mane. I had new hair growing in and it just looked really awful when I tried to wear it out. All that to say I was really unhappy and wanted to cut everything and start from scratch. After a couple weeks of looking for something reasonably priced ($80 was reasonable in most $$ salons). I came across this little gem last minute. I saw a few short cuts on yelp that were done by Shade so I called, was told haircuts were $35 and made an appointment. I was her last appointment of the day on a Friday 12/9/16. I was on time and was greeted warmly. She gave me a thorough shampoo/massage as we talked about my hair issues and maybe future hair color. I showed her a few pics. I wanted something from all of them. After a little confusion and talking through she finally understood what I wanted lol... and I'm very happy with the end result. I think the next time I see her it will just get better since all the hard work is done. I ended up paying $43 without Tip. Maybe it was tax and using a debit card. I don't know and don't care. It was still cheaper than $80 lol. read more

Salon Evolution - My sparse curly mane before my cute pixie cut. Done by Shade. - Hair Salons Near Me - Brooklyn, New York

I heard a lot of good things about salon evolution so decided to try it for myself. I loved every second of my experience. Serkan cut my hair last week and I loved that he listened to what I wanted, mostly kept my length but cut off a lot of the dead ends. Today I went back to dye my hair, also with Serkan. I showed him what I wanted but he was honest and said it was unattainable in just one time. Instead of ruining my hair even more and just taking money from me he explained what the best course of action was my hair and I completely agree that he is right. So happy that he was able to offer the advice and my hair came out awesome. Can't take a picture because it's curled up until tomorrow morning but I would definitely recommend him. Will be going back! PS: Salon is very nice and clean. All the staff is great and very friendly. read more

Warm, welcoming atmosphere. Elegant ambience. Friendly staff. The groupon was a great deal, but I'd have no problem paying regular price to have my hair cut by Alona! I love how my hair looks. She also gave me great tips on how to minimize hair damage when using heating tools. I will definitely book my next haircut appointment with her. Highly recommend Alona! read more

This was my first time at Salon Evolution and I saw SERKAN (super master) based on the recommendation from a friend. He was great at listening to what I wanted, explaining color options to me, and executing flawlessly. Plus, he was so fun to talk to (so friendly) Looking forward to coming back THANK YOU SERKAN, you are ROCK I HIGHLY RECOMMEND HIM FOR A NEW CUSTOMERS! read more

Had a blowout with Sevda. She was very friendly and did a very good job. The front desk was also very welcoming and friendly. Will definitely come back. read more

I went to the salon and had Elona (?) And she was fabulous. I had an idea of what I wanted. I showed her a picture and she gave me her honest opinion. We tweaked the style to something more suitable to my face and hair. I left very happy. read more

If you are coming here for coloring, styling or any hair treatment DEFINITELY go to Shade !! She is the kindest, most honest and sincere hair stylist I have ever been to. She did my hair for years when I was getting glazes done and she did my hair three years ago for prom and it was lovely and exactly how I wanted it to be. read more