My experience at Rodland was outstanding. David was informative, professional, very kind, and fun. There was no high pressure from anyone in the building. If I have to buy a car again, I would definitely go to Rodland, (even though I'm in Tacoma), and for sure ask for David! He really helped make the process stress free, and I honestly don't think I've had as much fun buying a car anywhere! Thank you for helping me get my dream car! read more

It takes a lot for me to write a bad review, but my recent customer service experience has been one of the most frustrating in my life. I hope this review can help others to avoid my terrible circumstances in the future. I brought my 2017 Tundra in for a 90k service to Rodland. I am very consistent on my services and would go to Rodland for my big mileage services. The service went fine although it was $1000 (expected). Roughly 10 months later when I was driving on the freeway my transmission drain bolt fell out, fluid drained out, and my transmission is toast. I brought my truck to a local mechanic where I was stranded. That independent mechanic was adamant that the cause was either the bolt not being torqued to spec or a new crush washer not being properly installed at my last service. I did not hit anything or sustain any damage. The mechanic thought for sure Rodland (who last touched my transmission and serviced it) would take responsibility and help me with a new transmission in some form or fashion. I called Rodland and asked if they would be willing to tow it to them (or I would pay to) and help me with this service issue. Rodland denied any responsibility, said I could tow it to them, but that I would have to pay full price for a new transmission and they said other shops would probably be cheaper. After escalating the issue, they said they would look into maybe getting me a discount on a new transmission. After looking into it, they stated the transmission is not available (on back order) and all they could offer was for me to pay full price for a rental car from them in the meantime. No loaner (they don't offer them) or discount on rental was offered. I ended up ordering a new transmission through a different Toyota dealership who was willing (Marysville) and I have been quoted a wait time of roughly 3-4 months for delivery. So in conclusion, going to the dealership for my 90k service ($1000) lead to my drain plug falling out 10 months later, transmission failing, zero offer of customer service help (anything would have made me thankful), and now a 3+ month wait for a new transmission from Toyota. Please for your sake ALWAYS make sure your drain plugs are properly replaced and tightened after your services. I will now ALWAYS do this. I love Toyota, but this was (and still is) a real tough pill to swallow. I hope this review helps Rodland and/or a customer in the future. read more

The whole car being experince David made it really quick and easy I was basically in and out with my new car in just 2 hours. No hassle at all. read more

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Christina and Alex were great to work to get my 2026 Tundra iforcemax Platinum. Transparent and no-pressure environment with no vehicle add-ons. Friendly and quick experience finalizing the paperwork and taking delivery of the vehicle. Would highly recommend! read more

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I recently leased a 2026 rav4 from Rodland Toyota of Everett and I am very pleased with the salesman I worked with David. I do believe that there was opportunity to receive a better deal but that isn't on the salesman, it's on the customers ability to understand the value and to work with the dealership to come to an agreement. All in all I would do business again, but I would make sure to do more homework in the best deal around . read more

I got my brand new 2026 Camry SE over here with support from David. We met up at the pre owned parking lot and he showed me the vehicle. He is a very kind guy with exceptional service. Glad to be in business with him and Rodland Toyota read more

David was easy to work with and talk to, and attentive to answering all our questions. I can't say he got us a great deal -- the forces of supply and demand set the price, and we understood that. When we told him we wouldn't come in without an "out the door" price, he gave us one right away, which we appreciated. read more

Took my Lexus RX350 in for a 10K service. Had an appointment in the morning. JuanCarlos was my service advisor and he provided fantastic service! He helped me decide what kind of service/diagnostic to do for a battery that I was having trouble with, and provided an accurate time frame for the service and battery diagnostic (~1.5 hrs). I waited in the reception area, and there was also a lovely lady who was overseeing the space and offered coffee and a biscotti right when I walked into the room. My car was ready in 1 hour, and JuanCarlos reviewed the battery results and gave me tips on how to improve the charge better. Super painless visit, and I'd come back here for my normal service next year. read more

Rodland Toyota of Everett - Coffee and biscotti in the reception area. - Car Dealers Near Me - Everett, Washington

Daryl was so helpful, calm, and informative when we were interested in buying a car. He wasn't pushy at all and gave us a lot of information which helped us make a decision on the best car for the best value. Thank you Daryl for making the car buying process easy and pleasant! Unfortunately, Darci in finance wasn't pleasant once we declined the extended warranty. Her attitude changed and signing the documents became very uncomfortable with her rudeness. I wish we could have done the paperwork with Daryl. read more

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I recently bought a 2013 Lexus SUV from a "semi-pro" dealership in Kirkland Eastlake Autobrokers. Friends suggested to have another dealership check it out. Like many, I had been in Everett for years and had worked at multiple dealerships including Ford, Toyotas, Mazda for twenty plus years but had never been into Rodland. Honestly, it is one of the nicest and professionally businesses as any. Having said that, Rodland reminds me a lot about Indian Casinos all over the NW. Those have great foods, hotels, bars, music and entertainment. Obviously, the reason they can do that is by poor suckers sitting on their butts for hours at a time while and giving them all their money away too slots. Rodland is virtually the same thing. If you prefer coffee, munches, T-shirts, hats, while watching TVs and lots of others giving their money away instead of just reliable mechanics elsewhere, this may be just your place! I expected to have my upcoming check-up cost somewhere like three to five hundred dollars. That bill became over eighteen hundred dollars! OUCH! It turns that the previous dealership at Kirkland are just as crooked as anywhere else. I was obviously ticked off when my Rodland advisor told me that NO ONE had ever checked out my Lexus in the thirteen years it was owned. Now one at Lexis, Toyota or any other dealerships or mechanics had ever worked on it. When I told the owner at Kirkland's about Rodlands, they told me I was getting robbed! Rodland pretty much told me the opposite... the same about where I bought it from. But they could prove it, complete with all the (missing) original factory Lexus recommendations and Carfax. So, I basically had a "war" between the two, trying to decide which one of them were the worst cons. You decide if this is coincidental: Two days after having driving from Rodland, a yellow light for my tires popped in my dashboard. After reading the many, many items on my invoice, they didn't include anything about upcoming problems about the sensor devices in the wheels, but they could offer to fix all four of them about eight hundred dollars... although only one of them is actually "bad". Gee, thanks. Three days later, my front door locks stopped to work. I can open the two back doors or the rear back, but none of the left or right in the front one... to drive into. They suggested to put new batteries in the two keys (seemed very rare to me that both would be bad, but tried anyway) That cost twenty dollars, and neither worked. Once again, THREE DAYS LATER of everything checked for max, the new price to repair door locks to repair actuators is $852 on left and $905 on the right for $2066 and change total! Short version: After calling mechanics, some I know well and some knew, I found prices for $1800 to $1500. The (crooks) at Kirkland said about $700, which they should have covered in the first place, but that's another story! Clearly all of these dealerships are crooks. By a little looking around on internet, AI and eBay I could easily find the new, real, original Toyota/Lexus parts for $140 to $150 each! Calling Les Schwab (I assume, like others as well) they have a process to find each bad TPMS rather than having to take all four of them... and cost you a bunch of money. So clearly... if you want to keep you money is your pocket walk away from pretty Casinos and stealerships! There are dozens of very smart and honest mechanics out there that may save you fifty percent more than what you're blowing for coffee, T-shirts or slots! Good luck. read more

I paid for extended warranty they knew my situation to get here and that I called to schedule before the mileage was up. And left me with a non working trunk at 36k miles after 1 year is gross. *Went to Marysville location and they took care of us right away read more

After another oil change and brakes replacement, I contacted Brandon saying I've been noticing my brakes are still making that squealing noise it was making before i had my brakes replaced. No response. No follow up on their part. read more

I went to Rodland Toyota yesterday, Wednesday 7/22/26 for the first time. I went for an oil change on my 2012 Highlander. My service Representative was Daniel, he said he has only been with Rodland Toyota for a couple weeks. The service appointment couldn't have gone better. The dealership is clean and the waiting area is very comfortable. Daniel was great and represents the dealership well. I look forward to continuing my vehicle maintenance needs with Daniel at Rodland Toyota. read more

I've had nothing but exceptional service here at Rodland Toyota. I bring both my RAV4 and Lexus NX for servicing here. They are efficient, friendly, and keeps you updated throughout the whole process. They are able to accommodate walk-ins. After they check your car in, they send you a text message so that you can communicate with your car service advisor throughout the process. They offer shuttles to take home or a nearby place. They have free WiFi, slow but it works. They offer coffee and snacks at the waiting room. The waiting room is bright and airy. They have a computer room if you require privacy. Best of all, there's no surprises when you go to pay and they do not try to upsell you when paying. Keep up the amazing customer service Rodland of Toyota! Thank you! read more

Christina Cross made the process quick, easy, and stress-free. No pressure, just helpful and friendly service. Brandon McEwen was pleasant to work with. Funny and easy to talk to ,also fast with the finance part of things. Toyota sells itself, they made the experience even better! read more

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Had a fantastic experience with Daryl DoCarmo. He helped find the right car at the right price with a consultative, no pressure approach. If you need a new Toyota, Daryl is your guy. read more

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Thank you so much to our wonderful car dealer Ms. Christina Cross! You are very helpful, patient and help us find the right vehicle. We love how you're very thorough and explained all the best packages that Rodland Toyota has to offer. See Christina on your next vehicle purchase. Thank you to their finance Ms. Darci as well! Explained every detail of the sale. read more

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Thank you Travis Skiles for making it a great experience purchasing our Bz on a rainy cold Monday night. I arrived 15 mins to closing time and he was friendly and patient throughout the entire process. I am looking forward to zero oil changes and gas and a year of charges included made it worth the buy! Definitely recommend Travis and the team here at Rodland. They made it worth our while to stop by! read more

EXCELLENT BUYING EXPERIENCE. Salesman Daryl was absolutely fantastic. I say this as an experienced buyer and salesperson. went thru the sales contract with him and got a good understanding. After the finance person (who was nice) Daryl took us to our new car and expl the electronics. So much to learn for a couple ages 73 & 74. Daryl was very patient and connected our iPhones to Apple car play. Would like to recognize Ran who is one of the sales managers. Overall 5stars!! 2025 Toyota RAVA LIMITED. Thank you Steve read more

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5-STAR SHOUTOUT FOR COLETTE AT RODLAND TOYOTA! I need to give a massive, heartfelt shoutout to Colette at Rodland Toyota of Everett--she is absolute perfection and definition of "above and beyond!" From the exact moment I arrived for my car's service, Colette greeted me with an infectious exuberance and a genuine eagerness to help! I have never met anyone in customer service who showed me such incredible care and truly wanted the absolute best for me! She took the time to thoroughly break down and explain the Toyota Care service maintenance plan, making sure I completely understood how it worked and patiently answering every single one of my questions. Colette is profoundly warm, kind-hearted, and caring. She completely made my day and turned a routine service appointment into an amazing stellar experience! Rodland Toyota, you have an invaluable asset on your team. Thank you, Colette, from the bottom of my heart! YOU are MORE than AMAZING!!! BIG shoutout to the service dept at Rodland Toyota of Everett. When I arrived, Nick greeted me with incredible friendliness welcoming me with open arms and saying he was so glad to see me! I felt genuine care and was given special attention. He escorted me to Juancarlos who also was super friendly and thorough taking all the details of my car for my service appointment... he was so efficient! And last but not the least Brandon, who is MORE than AMAZING, for the second time took such great care of my 2025 Toyota Corolla Hybrid and carefully went over all the servicing that took place. Brandon was so professional, but his genuine kindness and care once again meant the world to me as when I first came in February. A HUGE thank you to Rodland Toyota of Everett's Service Dept. for making me feel like a valued guest... you're the best ever!!! read more

We had an amazing experience! Travis was our salesman and was extremely informative and friendly. We enjoyed the entire process and are very happy with our new Tundra! Thank you again Travis Skiles! read more

I was very disappointed in the service I receive at Rodland Toyota. After I had noticed some accumulating oil on the front of my engine on my 2023 Tacoma I took it in to be diagnosed. The verdict was given as a 'seepage' on the timing chain cover which would not be covered under warranty. The service advisor commented that if it had been a 'leak' it would be covered. After returning home I removed the skid plate and noticed a significant leak with wet oil on many of the components and an obvious drip coming off the bottom of the engine. The subjective wording in the difference of a seep and a leak seems very deceptive. I fully intend to go through arbitration with Corporate Toyota to get this significant leak repaired. read more

Rodland Toyota of Everett - An obvious leak shown on the bottom of the engine. - Car Dealers Near Me - Everett, Washington

Christina literally greeted us at the front door with the warmest, most sincere smile. She assisted us with test driving multiple cars. I never felt an ounce of pressure from her in any direction, only genuine assistance. She was knowledgeable and working with her was so easy. I would recommend her to anyone and everyone read more

Our salesman Colin Miller made this purchase a very pleasant experience. He was able to explain trim levels and the options so that we got just what we wanted. This is the 3rd car we've purchased from Colin, and feels like dealing with a friend. Salesman Colin made it a fun. read more

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Salesperson Damarys is fun, easy to work with, and extremely knowledgeable about the cars she sells. Finance person Darci was efficient and friendly. I got the usual full court press about service contracts, but it was respectful and low pressure. read more

I spoke with the team earlier in the day inquiring about a car that was just received. They were able to get it inspected and ready for a test drive that evening. Nicolo Vincencio was professional and patient during the process. Would highly recommend the team here at Rodland Toyota for your car buying needs. read more

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I've always been impressed with the quality of service I get from the Rodland Toyota staff. That includes the service team, parts team and sales team. When I was planning to buy a car, a salesman took us for a test drive. While on the drive, I received a call from another salesman, from a different dealership. When the salesman heard the offer, he turned the car around, and said, "Take that deal. It's a better vehicle for roughly the same cost. I just hope you'll use us for your service." That's incredible! He didn't try to pitch his vehicle, but sent us to get a better vehicle for our money. So, we went, and we bought the other car. However, we get all our service at Rodland Toyota of Everett. That salesman had some integrity, and I applaud that. Additionally, RToE offers service packages that I live. 50% off on six oil changes! Yeah, I'm jumping on that. So, I've been with Rodland for eight years now, and I'll likely continue there for many more. Thank you, Rodland Toyota of Everett, for offering world class service, and having a no pressure sales team with very high integrity! read more

I saw a vehicle on the Rodland website I was interested in and Shawn S. called me and we chatted a bit about the vehicle. I asked him several questions about financing options and specifics about the vehicle. I was not able to come in and see the vehicle but I let him know I would get back to him. A few days later I contacted him again and wanted to see if he could help me hit the numbers I had in mind for payments and such. Shawn took the time to walk me through all my options, answer all my questions, and come up with a plan to get me to a comfortable payment. I followed up the next day and was in and out of the dealership with my new car in less than two hours! There was no pressure selling and it was such a pleasant experience! Even when there was a hiccup with my down payment Melina in finance was able to work a solution through in a matter of a few minutes. Shawn S walked me through how to work everything in the car(it's my first new car), answered all my questions and helped me get my phone connected the way I wanted. Rodland Toyota and staff is really setting the standard for what purchasing a car should be like! read more

I had planned on buying a new Camry here but a recent medical event made me look for a used one due to financial reasons. I want to thank salesperson Ryan Williams for letting me test drive and answer all my questions about the Camry and their different trims. Because of the time and effort he spent with me it ultimately made me choose a Camry XLE (used) I also want to thank Lauren from the service department for her help while visiting Rodland for my first service appointment. She answered numerous service related questions in regards to my new to me car. Also, their service department and waiting area is clean, comfortable, very big and welcoming. Super impressed with it. read more

Bought transmission fluid. Good service. Good & clean place. Close to bus stop. Easy to order. read more

Christina Cross is amazing! She made our trade in so easy and explained very well all the details. We love our new car. I highly recommend her to my friends and family. She goes above and beyond on her job!0 read more

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I write this review to try and help the next guy or gal who finds themselves looking at Rodland Toyota for their next new or used car. A friend was a lifelong Rodland customer but now refuses to even get his car serviced from them (even though it is only a 10 minute drive). I live over an hour away from Rodland, but found a car I liked online. Due to my long distance drive, I coordinated the purchase over the phone. I worked with Jesus. After some jockeying on price for a trade, Jesus agreed to MSRP on the new car and an agreed upon price for the trade. I confirmed with Jesus over the phone before I left my house. My wife heard the call on speakerphone. When I arrived, I met with another dealer, Charlie, as Jesus was busy. Without discussing price, they had my trade listed at the agreed upon price and the new car at MSRP. However, they marked the new car up $500. At first, Charlie wasn't sure why saying that every new car gets the $500 package. Then, he came back telling me it was for window tint. Window tint that I never agreed to, asked for, or was otherwise told would be installed. Further, it wasn't listed online, in the sales documents Jesus provided, or in any messaging. This was also explicitly against my wishes (MSRP only). Despite this, Charlie told me the tint was already discounted from the $999 it normally would cost (Michael's Toyota of Bellevue installed the same tint for me for $250 and still profited). Ultimately, Jesus agreed to discount the markup in half fully acknowledging we agreed on MSRP (he disagreed on the agreed pricing on the trade). However, I can't bring myself to do business with people who will willingly lie to make you drive two hours to get you in the door. Jesus said we never talked price on the phone even though I told him only an hour prior with my wife on speaker to corroborate. Charlie lying and telling me window tint at $500 is a steal compared to the $999. Even Jesus admitted that was a lie. I would expect the sleazy bait and switch tactics from a used car dealer, but not an authorized Toyota dealer. If you find a car you like here, try and get a different dealer to trade for it. Or else, read the fine print with a magnifying glass or I'm sure they will try and scam you too. read more

They sold me a GR Corolla with 3k miles on the odometer that was a dealer car. It's on 13k miles now and my clutch is fried. They blamed me for driving aggressively and wouldn't fix it. I do not drive aggressively. It is well known that there is a break in period for manual cars in the first thousand or so miles. If that isn't followed it can drastically shorten the life of the clutch. They know this and yet now on top of buying this car just few months ago I now need a clutch replacement. Thanks assholes. read more

I just purchased a 4Runner from Rodland Toyota this past week, and Cristina C. delivered an awesome experience. This is the second vehicle I have purchased from this dealership. Cristina was patient, friendly, and never pushy, she was extremely helpful and easy to work with. Everyone made the experience smooth and enjoyable from start to finish. I would recommend Cristina and Rodland Toyota to my friends and family. I am in love with my new 4Runner and definitely I would be coming back. Thank you for an extraordinary experience. read more

Just a horrid dealership. Imagine going to buy a new $70k truck and wandering the lot for 20 minutes and not getting any help. When you go inside for assistance, there is not a single employee inside, not even a receptionist / greeter. When someone finally appears, they are dishonest about invoice pricing when you find the attached documents in different trucks detailing the ACTUAL pricing including invoice and dealer holdbacks. When you inquire with the salesperson, he tells you those documents are 'fake pricing. Needless to say, I left confused and bought a nice 2025 Tundra Platinum at Marysville Toyota for a great prayer ce with amazing service. read more

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I had a wonderful experience purchasing a new Toyota on 1/2/2026 from Rodland Toyota. My salesperson Daryl DoCarmo was a pleasure to work with, as were all the staff. I never felt pressured at any time. Daryl worked hard with me to meet my needs. I'm truly thankful for his patience and understanding of what I wanted. The overall experience was excellent. I'm happy to recommend Daryl DoCarmo and the Rodland Toyota staff if you're in the market for a beautiful new Toyota. D.H.Winkler read more

I had an amazing experience at Rodland Toyota today. I first built a car at Toyota's website. Then, they showed me local dealers that had the exact build I created. I sent a message asking for availability, and they confirmed the vehicle was available. My wife and I drove up there to see the car. Unfortunately, I did not read the email thoroughly. They did clearly indicate the vehicle could be "reserved". I missed that, and that's on me. Anyway, I went inside and I talked to Frank Gandarias and Cindy Tran. I explained what I was looking for. They did not have the "exact vehicle" but they had one that was pretty close. I went ahead and test drove the car. I liked it, but wasn't ready to purchase. Regardless, I provided them with the keys to my trade, which they evaluated fairly according to what KBB said I could get in trade. They also provided me a complete breakdown of the purchase costs, including showing me up front that there was a warranty/service contract included in the pricing they provided. I would have purchased that coverage anyway, so having it shown up front was appreciated. I'm 60 years old, and if there are two things I can not stand in this world, it is buying a car, and buying a house. But, this experience was different. I don't need a high pressure sales pitch. I don't need a 4-square. I want to have a conversation with the dealership about what I want, and the prioritization of different features, etc. What I experienced today was great. I felt listened to. I felt that they wanted to put me in a vehicles that met the needs of my wife and I. They understood the importance of the heated steering wheel, the need for crossbars and a tow hitch. They discussed my needs with me in sufficient detail that I know they understood what I wanted. While I did not make a purchase today, it was not because of the dealership. The interior of the lower class model simply doesn't meet the needs of my wife and I. But, the dealerships personnel were truly professional and I appreciate the way they listened and tried to help. I didn't buy today, but when I do, I will go here first. read more

Rodland Toyota is a joke. If you are serious about buying a Toyota, just drive don't bother with Rodland. I stopped in and spoke to Joe Cha and Cindy Tran about a new truck. I did not buy that night, but have left countless emails and voicemails with no return correspondence at all. Am I a serious buyer? YES. I bought my 2025 Tundra Limited at Swickard Toyota because the Rodland team couldn't care less about returning a message or providing basic customer service. To top it off, I even reached out to Managing Partners, Allison Olson and Lindsay Crow via social media and neither returned my call either. Poor service starts at the top. In any event, I included a photo of my Tundra that I bought at Swickard Toyota last week for $65k. Zero pressure and great service. Something that Rodland Toyota cannot seem to figure out read more

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We had an absolutely horrible experience with Rodland's after buying a truck from them recently, so I want to share our experience as a warning to others. I wish I had read the other reviews before giving them my business -- a very big and expensive lesson has been learned. In July of this year, we bought a 2019 truck with very low miles. We were told it had only one previous owner, so we felt confident it was a safe purchase. Exactly 43 days after buying the truck, it wouldn't start and appeared to have an electrical issue. After towing it to our closest Toyota service center (not Rodland's), the technicians discovered that the wiring harnesses had completely melted due to a canopy and lights that had been installed on the truck before we bought it. The repair took one month and cost us over $10,000. We immediately reached out to Rodland's while the truck was still being repaired to see if they would be willing to help, considering we had owned the truck for less than a month and a half and had only put a few hundred miles on it. Their answer was no -- not one single cent. They didn't offer a loaner car while the truck was in the shop for a month, not even complimentary car washes for a year... nothing. Their response was simply that we bought the vehicle "as is" (aside from the 3-month/3,000-mile powertrain warranty), and they weren't willing to assist in any way. We weren't asking them to cover the entire $10,000 repair -- just to help with the cost of parts or cover a portion of the bill, given that the problem clearly existed before we purchased the truck. Even the Toyota dealership doing the repair was shocked that Rodland's refused to help at all. They felt so bad about how we were treated that they knocked a few hundred dollars off the bill and threw in some freebies to soften the blow. Rodland's does not care about its customers. I highly recommend taking your business elsewhere. read more

I had a great experience at Rodland. We had the pleasure of working with Nick Rodriguez. This was my first time working with Rodland, let alone a Toyota. I traded in my car and got fair value, Nick also helped my wife and I find a reliable and affordable used car. Nick did not pressure us into anything and remembered our needs and requirements. There was no add-on sale pushed and he even removed things based on our initial conversation, removing the whole stereotypical back and forth. The experience was conversational, respectful, pleasant, and fair. I do recommend you visit Nick. When it's time that we need to trade in my wife's car, we will see Nick at Rodland. P.s. - We ended up getting a '21 Toyota Venza. It's awesome. read more