I helped my 75 yr old mother on limited income purchase a refurbished laptop from this company. I did a good bit of research online trying to find her a good deal, since this is a big investment for her (even though it was "only" $400). I scoured Amazon, Walmart, Best Buy, and a few other online sellers. I found joy systems, and from what I was able to determine, they seemed reputable. I figured with the extended warranty and 30 day return window, it should be ok. First issue: I wanted to talk to an actual person to verify that there would be no restocking fee if she had to return it within the 30 day return window, and that there WAS a 30 day window for that particular item. I couldn't get anyone on the phone. It says to contact them online. Their chat function is a joke: You will wait for literal days before they finally email you telling you to contact them via email. Second issue: once I placed the order, the order sat untouched in their customer portal until I reached out and asked them when it was going to be shipped (the shipping window indicated on their listings had passed with no updates). Then they replied saying it was going to be shipped soon, and then I got a tracking update. Who knows how long it would have taken if I had just waited on them. Third issue: the item arrived WITH THE WRONG CHARGER. If you have not dealt with the drama of finding a suitable charger lately, I'll tell you that it's a full time job trying to find the right charger for a device due to all the different fittings available, so we were at their mercy for getting a correct charger. I contacted them right away to let them know they'd packed the wrong one and insisted they expedite the correct one so that she wouldn't lose too much time from her 30 day return window. The laptop only stayed on for a few hours that first day, long enough for me to put my mom's personal documents from her old computer on there. This, of course, meant that if we needed to return it, we'd have to wipe that info first. DAWN replied to the email about the charger pretty quickly, and even provided a tracking # for the replacement charger. It was not sent priority mail, though. It was only regular mail. And I watched that tracking number for 2 weeks. The entire time, USPS never received the charger from Joy Systems. I emailed and called them multiple times. Each time, they gave me a new excuse for why USPS was saying the item had never been dropped off to them. Finally, they agreed to send a 2nd correct charger and actually expedite it this time. That tracking ALSO sat with no updates for several days. And wouldn't you know? BOTH chargers were finally brought to USPS on the SAME DAY. They both arrived to us on the same day. They lied the whole time. And the whole time fighting with them about not having mailed the charger and losing valuable time from the 30 day window, I knew that we couldn't even return the laptop if we wanted to, because her info was already on it, and I couldn't delete anything until I had a charger!! And as many times as I begged them to find the ACTUAL PERSON who had supposedly taken the charger to the post office, they refused to do any digging to find out the truth. So my mom lost 17 days of the 30 day review period because of this company's incompetence. A reputable company would have extended her return window to allow for their mistake, but Dawn said that was impossible. Why? Joy Systems makes their own policies; they can adjust them to make things right with their customers!
The icing on the cake? I used my cell number for my mom's account so they'd contact me if there were any issues. And this company obviously sold my phone number to spammers, because I have not made any new accounts or purchases involving my phone number in this time frame, and as soon as we set up this account for this order, I started getting bombarded with spam texts. And it's all stuff to do with fake technology & software warnings, just like you'd expect from a sketchy business in the tech industry. Don't do business with these people. read more