I have been going to Patrik for YEARS! He used to be at a salon in Westwood but then moved here and OF COURSE I had to follow. He has a good spirit and makes the entire experience enjoyable all while leaving my hair feeling and looking amazing! Patrik cuts, colors and styles my hair. He is the only one I trust with my locks! read more

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It's a new year and time for a new review. I have called Claudio and Jaclyn artists in the past and I wish I could think of a word that's a "cut above" (no pun intended) calling them artists. I really want to concentrate on my color by Jaclyn Wosk in this review. Claudio's cuts are always stellar, and Jaclyn's color is perfection. I'm a redhead, and we all know how difficult reds are. Her color, her highlights, the gloss...all of it is amazing! Even when I'm boarding a plane, the person behind me asks, "Who does your color?" We all just panic over changes when it comes to our hair, but if you're looking to make a change...look no further! The salon is elegant and casual at the same time...parking is easy in the back...they are always on time...A boutique experience that is as classy as it is easy. You won't want to make another change and you'll thank me for this one! Go to Hairem! read more

Definitely recommend this salon to everyone and any one .. service is amazing the minute you walk into the room .. I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE my hair .. TIFFANY definitely brought my hair back to LIFE . definitely feel like a super star :) ..everyone ask for tiffany :) read more

Hairem - Tiffany left my hair looking like a million bucks .. just wish I had a before pic ... amazing job - Hair Stylists Near Me - Studio City, California

This review is for Arielle-- I am obsessed with her. I have been coloring my hair since i was 13 and I have NEVER gone to someone as talented with color as Arielle. Her prices are reasonable for how outstanding her work is. If you're looking to go blonde or vivid especially, Arielle is your gal! read more

Yuki cut my hair and I am in love! I am a "go to the salon once a year" and "try to avoid salons at all cost" type gal. Now I actually look forward to my next trim. I have a very round face and she framed my cut perfectly to even everything out. I'm graying at an alarming rate so I can't wait for her to do my hair color next. If you want a personable and professional experience, Yuki is it! read more

Shannon G is an amazing hairdresser and color expert. I have been going to her since I moved to LA and followed her once she started at C the Salon. My color has never looked better and she always makes me feel so beautiful! Definitely go to Shannon if you can! read more

I'm desperately searching for my stylist, Alex Perez! Is she still with C The Salon?

I feel like a celebrity here. The best service friendly and fun. I was so scare to go in they make me feel great and welcome. Wishes do can true. The very talented Tiffany , Brock best assistance. my hair looks do good. My internet friends.los quiere Lupe G. Gracias. @hairluvbytiffany #hairluvbytiffany read more

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Really glad I found Susan and very much enjoy the shop overall. The neighborhood is great to spend an afternoon in - parking can be a challenge, but worth it with all you can accomplish and enjoy on foot once you find a spot. Great selection of hair care products as well as a friendly staff and easy enough to book a last minute or well in advance cut. Been going here for a few years (even in the old location) and very happy I have them! read more

C the Salon has been the only hair salon I been going to since moving to LA ! Yuki is my one and only tho there's a lot of talented hair stylist to pick from. She's amazing at Cut and Color ! The Salon is located conveniently on popular Ventura Blvd in Studio City. The staff is always friendly & accommodating. They have the latest hair products and the spot is super clean! I highly recommend read more

Hello Hairem, Thank you again and again for taming my unruly hair! Before the amazing Jaclyn gave me a Keratin treatment, I knew very little about that modality. I had been getting my hair straightened by a wonderful stylist since 2005, but when her salon closed during the pandemic, she moved out of state. I was truly afraid to let anyone else straighten my hair because she had used a very mild version and said most stylists just do not do it that way. I heard a little about keratin treatment and got very lucky to find Jaclyn and Claudio - Jaclyn's keratin treatment is actually far better for my hair than the straightening - even though it does not straighten, per se, it gives my hair the youth it needs to hold a nice flat iron that makes it actually look like I have real straight hair. My hair flows and bounces and the flat iron I do each morning takes about 4-5 minutes to look good. In all my 80+ years, no one has ever cut my hair as perfectly as has Claudio! Jaclyn and Claudio are the best anti-aging treatment I could ever imagine! People now guess my age as 60 - I love it!! In my very educated opinion, I honestly believe that Jaclyn and Claudio are the best stylists anywhere in California - and I feel lucky and blessed to have found them! Thank you Jaclyn and Claudio! read more

Yuki is the QUEEN of color!! Seriously, anything she's done to my hair has been amazing. She maintains my blonde and switched me to pink one time that I was OBSESSED about. The one time I didn't LOVE the tone of my blonde she immediately had me come back and fixed it for me no charge!! She has such a good eye for color and knows what will look best on you! Always going to see her for color! read more

Found Claudio on YouTube, when i was searching for long layered hairstyles to find what I had in mind. Came across Claudio's video of him cutting the exact layers that I had in mind. Scheduled my appointment..,. Today I had my haircut by Claudio. Firstly, his sweet demeanor, calmness, and smile make it easy to talk to him. He knows how to cut long layers by far better than any other stylist I've been to ever before. Bonus that he's adorably good looking and easy on the eyes :) read more

The salon is great and conveniently located. I love Shannon and followed her from her old salon and am so glad I did. She takes the time to really understand what you want and offer realistic suggestions based on your hair type and honest about how much maintenance it will be, while still being supportive and excited about bold changes or ideas, coming up with a cohesive plan. Fun to chat with and incredibly skilled in cut and color, she'll be your go to for whatever look you want to achieve! read more

I love this salon! It has such an amazing energy and is filled with so much talent! I am so grateful that I have Yuki to grace my hair with her magic!! She is the only person that has been able to make me platinum blonde (trust me I have been trying for 6 years!) and she was able to do it without damaging my hair at all! She also took the time to learn about my hair in particular when I told her that most others don't stay on, they typically fade after 1 wash. Ofcourse she mixed up something special and no joke my toner is STILL intact 6 washes later. I was in shock. I would recommend her for any of your hair needs!!! Another perk is that she is such a sweetheart and so much fun to chat with while sitting in a salon for 3-4 hours! Thanks Yuki!!!! read more

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Visiting from SF and walked-in for a desperately needed bang trim. So happy to meet Maya, who gave me fabulous bangs! I didn't know what exactly I wanted but she read my mind and patiently trimmed until I said the ok. She even generously gave me the trim gratis as it was my birthday!! If you need a stylist, see my girl Maya! read more

Bryan has been doing my hair for years now and is a master of color! He's very open and accommodating to when I find a new hair style I want to try. Spends time and focuses on making sure the color is even and rich, the cut stylish and balanced and that you leave happy. read more

I have been two this salon on two separate occasions. Once to get my hair trimmed, and many months later to get my hair colored. My hair trim, which is what was agreed upon during my consolation, turned into the stylist chopping off my long hair all the way above my shoulders. Although I was extremely unhappy with the result, I decided to just deal with it and move on. Fast forward to December 30th, 2016.... I decide to give the salon another try because hey, maybe they do color better than cut. I also have seen ladies leave the salon seemingly happy with their results. Boy was I EXTREMELY wrong.... I wanted to be crystal clear during my hair coloring consultation, so I brought in a reference picture of a warm (still dark) brown hair color. After all that was agreed upon, after we discussed exactly what I wanted, the stylist left to go mix the color. She was gone for TWENTY minutes. When she came back, she had three bowls of hair dye. I was a little confused and worried, but I don't color hair so I just have to trust that my stylist knows what they are doing. She begins to color my hair, with three different colors. A process that took over three hours to complete. She kept rubbing the product into my hair over and over to try it "lift" the color, however, I only asked for a warm brown to my already brown hair. Again, I thought, "what do I know?". So after I have sat there for almost four hours, and after I get my hair rinsed, I sit back in the chair. My hair looks normal, but it's wet so we'll see how the color really turned out. The color came out a lot lighter than what I wanted, but I thought it would be something that I could work with. So I said, "Thank you, very much.", paid $170.00 and went home. When I got home and parked my car, I flipped open the mirror to get another look at my hair... It was COMPLETELY ORANGE. I was shocked and my roommate was shocked. I couldn't believe how different it had looked in the salon, but the lights were very dim in there so I obviously didn't get a good look at the true color. Horrified, because I got my hair done specifically for going out to a big dinner on New Year's Eve with friends I hadn't seen in a long time, I called the salon and asked them if I could make an appointment with a new stylist that could fix this complete mess. As soon as the receptionist realized that I was calling with a complaint, she became very rigid and stern. I was told that I could ONLY get my hair fixed by the stylist who originally did it. How does that make any sense? Why would I want the stylist who completely messed up and fried my hair to "fix" it? I was trying not to get worked up over the phone, so I just hung up. I emailed the salon in hopes of coming into contact with the owners or managers, pretty much anyone who could help. But of course, I have not received a reply from ANYONE. I asked to be refunded IN FULL. IMMEDIATELY. No answer. I even sent them three pictures in the email of the reference photo I showed the stylist, and two pictures of my hair in natural light. Nothing. No response. I will NEVER step foot in this salon ever again. It is so crazy to me that for $170.00 I had to go to CVS and get a damn box hair dye to fix this mess. I will also be sure to tell every girl I know, and every girl I meet who is looking for a salon to STAY AWAY from this place. Honestly don't know how someone can be so arrogant and prideful to not even give a refund. Only reason why this has two stars is because the staff was friendly. read more

Hairem - The top is the reference picture I showed my stylist. The bottom two are of the finished product in natural light. ORANGE. HORRIBLE. RUINED. - Hair Stylists Near Me - Studio City, California

Jaclyn is an extremely talented colorist. She really knows what she's doing. I love the relaxed but professional atmosphere at this salon. And the parking in back is great. I highly recommend this salon. read more

Susan is awesome - she gave Nikki such a great cut and color! Beautiful blonde highlights and lowlights for a naturally beachy blonde! What a great colorist! Thanks Susan! read more

I love this salon! They have always squeezed me in last minute for blow drys and I leave feeling so happy with my hair every time. Their prices are very reasonable and I love their products. My kids are happy too because they can get frozen yogurt next door and that always keeps them occupied and happy:) Thank you C salon:) read more

This review is long over due. I use to be a loyal customer of this salon for many years. I began getting my haircut there when the salon was called Allen Edwards. I never had any issues until my original stylist left and I decided to book a cut with the owner Claudio. The layering job he did was awful which I mentioned my dissatisfaction before I even left his chair. Instead of trying to make it right he became defensive and was arrogant. Terrible customer service from him. Will never return. read more

So this place saw my bad review and called me pretending to be sorry and pretending to care. They said they could not refund me my money but that they would send me a gift card to try and make things right. NEVER GOT IT. Not surprised! THIS PLACE SUCKS. WARNING! DO NOT COME HERE! So it's been about 3 or 4 weeks since I went in to have my hair done by Tiffany. She was super nice and friendly but, her work sucks!!!!!! I found her on Instagram and decided to make an appt. I waited 5 weeks to get in with her cause she was so booked. When I went in and showed her a pic of what I wanted, it was her own work. I found the pic on her Instagram. So I thought there's no way she could mess this up. It's her own work. Well let me tell you, I don't think I've ever had anyone do as bad a job as she did. I have patches all over my hair. It looks nothing even close to what I wanted. I'm gonna upload some pics so anyone reading this can see what I'm talking about. My hair is also cut unevenly in the back. It's funny cause when she was cutting my hair she said she had to fix it cause one side was an inch longer than the other. Well she didn't fix it. She made it worse. I actually never even noticed it being uneven before she cut it. Well now it's very noticeable and obvious. Especially in the front. When I first left the salon I thought I liked it. But when i got home and saw my hair in regular lighting I was severely disappointed. And the more I started to move my hair around I could see just how jacked up the color was. I texted her and told her I was unhappy so we arranged to talk at the salon. She told me its just gonna take a few sessions to get what I want and that I could wait for the color to set in and it would be better. Well I waited and all I did was find more flaws with my hair. The worst part of it all is, I paid $330. Are you freakin kidding me? I've never paid that much in my life. I PAID $330 AND THIS IS WHAT I GET? It was supposed to be 350 but I got 20 off for leaving a positive review. That is why my previous review was a positive one. Maybe it was just the luck of the draw for me with her but either way my hair looks like crap. So ladies if your thinking about seeing Tiffany or going to the salon, beware! Find someone else in a better salon. read more

I'm so disappointed with the way I was treated by Claudio & his assistant during my last visit. I felt so uncomfortable that when I left the salon I literally sat in my car & cried. I don't know what happened or why they chose to treat me the way they did; but after the positive review I've written, clients I've referred and money I've spent, I truly don't think it was fair or justified to be treated with such disregard. Such a huge shift from when I first started going to Claudio, he was warm, welcoming, and cared about my opinion but kindly nudged me in the right direction for what would look best on me. This past visit he seemed irritated by me & his assistant literally said to me 'I don't even know why you get your hair colored!' - wtf? Why does any woman get her hair colored?? To feel beautiful, sexy, refreshed?? My highlights turned out way to ashy and I was so intimidated to go back that I ended up picking up a boxed color from Target to cover up the $300 + color/highlights I got a week and a half ago. I'm so sad & upset that things turned out this way. read more

Claudio is a lovely person. But... Last week, I had my 2nd cut from Claudio and I feel robbed. I paid $110 for what looks & feels like a $10 haircut. I had a 1 PM appointment (I arrived early). Finally at 1:40 PM Claudio was ready for me. He spent 20 minutes on my hair which included a 10 minute blow dry. While he was pleasant, he seemed rushed and busy. I specifically requested Claudio because he is the owner of the salon and a master stylist. I don't use a lot of products or color my hair but I ALWAYS pay for the best haircut I can get. I expect attention to detail and artistry. This cut looks like a cut I could have gotten as a walk in at the mall. I am so disappointed. At least hair grows. read more

This is my second time with Claudio. I was going to a studio in Beverly Hills and they fried my hair and did not care about the health and shine of my hair. Claudio cares and will make your hair beautiful AND healthy. HIGHLY recommend C!! read more

bad experience, a girl there with brown hair and fried bangs ruined my hair..I will get her name! shes seriously ruined my hair....gone fried off. I cant believe this happened, TRAMATIZING read more

For a long time now I've been in search of someone who is really good at cutting hair but not outrageously priced. Until now everyone who has cut my hair has either had a fee which would consume an entire paycheck (which while they've done an exceptional job their price tag has prevented me from getting my hair cut more than twice a year) or for $35 I got to cross my fingers and hope that this one could at least cut it straight. So I felt like I was trapped with the two bad options of crappy hair or bankruptcy. *sigh* How does C the Salon factor into the drama of my hair? My mother has been getting her hair colored by Julian at C the Salon for a couple years now and she made an appeal for a recommendation on my behalf. So with some shamefully grown out hair I made an appointment with Amaina. The results? Epic win! Amina** and her assistant Kim were wonderful to work with! Amina listened carefuly to what I wanted and discussed what she was going to do so that by the time I went to get my hair washed I was confident and excited. She really focused on cutting my hair in a way no one ever has before. First creating the basic shape while it was wet; then drying it and refining. Finally creating a hair cut that exceed all my expectations. What was the damage? $80! ...epic win **I know I am brutally misspelling her name and I sincerely apologize for this... but unfortunately I lost her card and cannot locate a proper spelling anywhere on the "inter webs" read more

C the Salon is where I get my hair did. When we moved, I was in desperate need of a permanent, closer salon instead of having to drive 40-45 min to my old hang out. After reading a few reviews, thought I'd give it a try (after a few failed attempts at other salons in Studio City). I don't get anything fancy, just a hair cut so I cant speak to highlights, dyes, etc. Had Richard cut my hair and now he is stuck with me!! It's a treat coming here every few months to see him. Everything you are looking for: knows what he's doing, he listens to what you want but offers great advice as well...and he's funny! what a great added bonus! If you are looking for a good place in or around studio city, I would come here. The orange decor will make you happy and the people will impress ya. read more

Claudio Lazo, the owner of C - The Salon has been my hairdresser since 1998. I was referred by my then fiance now ex-husband whose entertainment royalty friends and their top model girlfriends were all "swearing" by him. I was scared to go. Who am I? Venezuela-born Claudio was so kind, down-to-earth, sweet and accomodating - he cured my very severe case of hair dresser phobia once and for all. He is one of the country's top hair experts (he was featured on MTV and in leading print media outlets) and his skalp treatments are both legendary and the foundation for healthy, naturally beautiful hair. I'd rather go a year without having my hair cut than seeing anybody else. I've done that actually once. When I came back from my first session with Claudio, I wasn't sure if my hair looked like spagetti or ultra-beautiful. My soon-to-be husband was smitten and so was a singer of a famous rock band whom I met at Jamba Juice and who addressed me as "The Girl from our Video!" in front of some fake bake, high-maintanance California babes who were as irritated as I was. "What? No, I have never been in a video!" "Yeah, you are THAT model!!!" "No, I am not a model!" "C'mon. Yes, you are!" "No, I am not." I am 6'2, lean and athletic and thus stand out, that's all. Oh, and I have great hair thanks to Claudio. The rocker then wanted to invite me to his yoga class and gave me his phone number. "My fiance is also in the music industry!" "Don't bring him to our yoga session!" My self-esteem rose. Claudio makes me feel and look good, naturally, always. I ALWAYS LEAVE HAPPY. A few years ago, an aquaintance of his came up to Claudio while he was blow-drying my hair. "Amazing highlights, Claudio! Wonderful job!" Claudio and I exchanged a quick smile, I did not say anything. "This girl here never touches any chemicals, no dye, no hair spray. She only lets me do a blunt cut and that's it..." I know I am frustrating the maitre d'hair of Hollywood A-listers with my simplicity and the fact that he does not earn any big money from me, really, but he always welcomes me sincerely as a long-lost, dear family friend. And my hair is incredible every time. Shiny, healthy, beautiful. I pay $65 for my cut, the treatment, the blow-dry and a deep, genuine conversation while he dries my hair. I've never had to wait and parking is never a problem either. The location is convenient too - next door to THE COFFEE BEAN & TEA LEAF, on the intersection of Laurel Canyon and Ventura Blvd. PS: They are really fun too (e.g., I'll never forget Halloween 1999: Claudio's former assistant now indie stylist Susan went as I LOVE LUCY'S Lucille Ball)... We all had a blast. read more

5 stars for Richard. Not only is he the hands down BEST when it comes to blow dries, but he also knows how to make a girl feel like a supermodel with his up-dos! I'm not talking cheezy quinceanera-style curls...I'm talking editorial status chignons (you know...messy-modern?). I've been going to him for up-dos for weddings and work events, and have gotten compliments left and right from friends AND strangers! He's also great at color. He's the only colorist I've gone to that can lighten my hair without leaving a brassy red tone (important for Asian girls). He understands color and he's a chemist when it comes to that. If I tell him exactly what I want, he already knows what formula to use to produce the desired results. I never really deviate from my usual long layered haircut so I can't really comment on his cuts for women, but I do have several guy friends who have amazingly styled hair due to his cuts. read more

As life would have it, I was born with curly hair, so I have been dealing with frizz for forever. I went online and did my research on the Global Keratin Treatment and discovered I was beyond the perfect candidate. An hour and a half with Jason Edwards and. MY LIFE. was changed. FOREVER. Its like the GKT brought out my hairs true nature and potential. I am in love with my new look and already booked my next appointment. Walk don't run to Jason Edwards - if you want your hair to reach its highest potential. I do declare, he's the man! read more

Claudio and the team are so incredible every time I come in, I love the music and vibe C the Salon has and they are the best at working with Blondes! Posting a picture now after my last appointment with them so you can see for yourself :) read more

Hairem - Love what Claudio and Yuki did with my hair today! #BestBlonde #DreamTeam - Hair Stylists Near Me - Studio City, California

Think of a top notch L.A. Salon. Picture it in your mind. The cool vibe, the hip culture, the pretty girls. Got it? Now imagine a solon so awesome, it runs up and kicks that salon you're picturing right in the dick. That, my friends, is C the Salon. It kicks other salons in the dick. I've been going to C for the last couple of years, and while everyone there is super cool and really nice, Alexis is my personal stylist. I'll never go to anyone else. She's cute, smart, funny, and incredible at what she does. Her conversations are fun and snappy. It's like you're suddenly in a quirky but cute rom com the whole time you're sitting in her chair. Not only that, but Alexis' hair cuts are AMAZING! Once, when leaving the salon, A woman just casually walking by looked at my hair cut, and her panties suddenly caught on FIRE! This kept happening to every woman I passed. Eventually, I had to be quarantined in a federal facility until my hair cut had sufficiently grown out enough so that it was safe for me to walk the streets again. So go to C the Salon today. Ask for Alexis. You won't be sorry. read more

At long last I can review my wonderful haircut by Susan at C the salon. The whole experience was wonderful. For those who do not know me and/or have seen me I am widely known amongst my friends for having long black locks. In fact, I recently found myself looking through memorable pictures and discovered that my haircuts have not changed or varied for about 20+yrs (sad, yes I know). I started researching the haircuts best fit for me and was particularly interested in going short. During my research, I consulted Allure magazine and found reviews for C the Salon. I then turned to yelp and Susan's name was highly praised so I called the salon and scheduled what was to be my "2011 look". Susan, was wonderful! She knew right on the spot the type of haircut best fit for me and was extremely quick and gave my locks the renewal I needed and was looking for. She managed to leave sufficient length to show the wonderful shape of the cut.It looks great either straight or with my curls and best of all I still have hair long enough to put up! I highly recommend her and will definitely be back! read more

I've been coming to C the Salon for at least 5 years. I've been with Jason Edwards. C the Salon is so customer focused. You can count on them being ready for your appointment time. Jason is a master stylists and at layering. Every time I leave, I feel good! Even, when I come in not feeling so great, I leave with a spring in my step. I have base color about every 4 to 5 weeks and a cut every other visit. Then, twice a year I also have highlights. My hair always looks healthy, natural and not over processed. Jason and his assistant are gems. The salon is ran very well, professional and clean. The receptionists are always very courteous and helpful. You will not be disappointed. read more

Nicole is officially my favorite. After a very unfortunate hair coloring experience, I decided to seek out somebody new. I found Nicole's work through a recommendation and I'm so glad I did. My first visit with her was spent doing a color correction, which looked great. After that visit I got a wild hair and ended up having her take it blonde from red. After a few visits it looks SO MUCH BETTER than I could have ever imagined. Not only is she a color wizard, her hair cuts are super precise and leave my hair looking effortlessly perfect. I love the Kevin Murphy product line that they sell there too, the Blonde Angel shampoo is really great. read more

I came to this salon because of the great Yelp reviews. I'm sad to be the one writing a not so great review! Basically, I brought in a picture of all over color with a few lighter pieces. I brought the picture so there wouldn't be a misunderstanding of what I wanted. We were covering up red, so I was sure to ask questions about the color going over it... and really thought my stylist knew what I wanted. The all over color isn't bad, but she charged me for partial highlights... and the highlights didn't take. My hair just looks sloppy and multi colored. I ended up walking out of the salon paying over $200 and not having the color I wanted. I wrote the salon the next day, said I just wanted my money back for the highlights, I was fine paying for the all over color, but felt upset over paying so much for highlights that didn't take. I also said I didn't want to come back in to do more dye, because I felt like my hair has been through enough after this visit. The manager never got back to me. All I received was a message from the stylist saying she could change the color. The one thing I didn't want. On the plus, the salon is clean and the staff is nice. Just be careful when going in for color... and know that they will over charge you, even if you aren't happy. read more

I just had my first appointment at C The Salon today. I was thoroughly impressed! They are a hoppin' place even on a Saturday morning. I asked a co worker of mine who her hair stylist was. She told me she has gone to Susan for 9 years. After talking to the helpful (and extremely patient) receptionist we decided that Susan would be the best stylist for me at the salon. I have long hair and high light it golden blonde about twice a year. Susan was so nice and knew exactly what I wanted and got to work immediately. They had everything already prepared. I have never been to a salon where the stylist had an assistant helping her the whole time. Instead of it taking about an 1 and 1/2 hours (the time frame I've always been use to) I was in and out of the salon in 45 minutes! Both Susan and her assistant (I didn't catch her name) were great. I was extremely happy with how my highlights turned out. Susan knows what she is doing! I'm interested in having long layers cut, and I will definitely trust Susan when I go back in the near future. read more

I've been going to see Yuki for the past 3 years and I could not recommend her more. She is a color whiz who took me from a disastrous dye job from another place to a perfect ash blonde to a rose blonde back to a darker blonde in the span of 3 years (what can I say I get bored easily with my hair ). On top of that she is just an amazing and kind human and it is a pleasure to sit and have a chat with her while she makes me prettier every time I see her. read more