...wings are not jumbo in the slightest....do not make this mistake...very tired and very disappointed read more

Graffiti pizza - ....jumbo they are not. Do not make this mistake... - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

TERRIABLE, DISGUSTING CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!! If you don't like being disrespected, STAY AWAY!! My wife and I were in town over the weekend visiting family and we stopped in for an early dinner only to be dumbfounded by how rude the cook names Paul behind the counter was to delivery guys picking up. And then my cousin who came in this afternoon who after asking for more mushrooms on her pie, was told she didn't have to be too difficult and not to return. Listen, as a New Yorker, trust me, their pizza is not anything special to be giving paying customers such a hard time. Especially when their prices are nuts! I DO NOT recommend them and I highly suggest you stay away and find pizza else where! read more

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Giving a solid 4 stars to this wonderful pizzeria. The pizza is not overly greasy (but obviously still greasy because...it's pizza), has a nice thin crust, and doesn't skimp on the toppings. Even better that it's open late. It is not the most cost-effective pizza but you're paying for quality and is still on par with other smaller non-corporate chains. read more

The City of Oakland is filled with pockets of surprises. Graffiti pizza (GP) fits that description to a tee as it is hidden on the outskirts of downtown not far from the Oakland Police Department Headquarters and the prison and the many bail bond stores just down the block on 6th St and Washington. I believe technically this part of Oakland is referred to as Historic Oakland. Who knows? Maybe the racist Jack London used to haunt these areas? Not sure. I find it odd that a liberal city like Oakland gives so much accolade to him. When you have the chance, search for his newspapers articles about African American boxing great Jack Johnson and you'll learn how openly racist he was at the time. I give this a 5 because this place shot up shortly prior to the COVID-19 revolution that turned human beings into robots programmed to accept unsubstantiated info at fair value and to be fearful at all costs. As a result of that revolution of over-reaction, a lot of Oakland Restaurant institutions fell belly under and crime here for a brief spike became worst than normal. Yet in all that brew of negativity, this place, in its infancy survived. What I love most about GP is that is not bought or corporatized. It has a unique feel that reminds me of old San Francisco where chains like Subway, Roundtable and McDonalds weren't the norm. Aside from my personal commentary, let's get to the details: if you have a group of 15-20 friends and desperately need a place to wind down with food and a good bar, look no further. The back area holds 20-25 people comfortably. The pitchers of beer are honest. We came in with a lot of beer drinking momentum and we're pacified by the (3) gargantuan pints IMMEDIATELY served to us as we walked in. There was no Ass scratching delays which is typical in anti-friendly "I'm too cool to give good service" California. They had our backs instantly and made us all feel welcome instantly. For pizzas what did we order? 5 different ones: cheese, meat, combo, veggie and pepperoni. All arrived to a group of 15 hungry friends within 10 minutes. All fully packed. All fully delicious. Amenities? All the cracked red pepper or Parmesan that you needed. I am glad I found this place. After 8pm, since the COVID-19 over-reaction, most kitchens are now shut save for the grotesque chains. This is pretty much the only viable pizzeria open in Oakland after 8pm with a good bar, cool staff, cool vibes and a socially unpretentious welcoming vibe. Thanks for moving into this city and giving some life back to it. Also, sorry it took my so long to find you. I had given up on finding places like this in Oakland and had been programmed to just buy food and scurry off to home nestled in my cove of anti-sociability. Cannot wait to come here again! read more

Graffiti pizza - Façade - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

This place is awesome! Anyone writing a bad review must be a moron or have no taste! The pizza is fire! I've been coming here for years! Great service! These guys are awesome! read more

Apathetic guy behind the counter charged us almost $80 for two beers and a 14" pizza. When asked how we got to that price, he said he'd mistakenly charged his own meal to our ticket, and appeared to issue a refund. Then the wait for our meal began. After 40ish minutes with no clear indication of when the pizza would actually be coming, we asked for a full refund. Guy pushed back on a full refund, but eventually muttered "it's all back", and just seemed to be generally annoyed that we were cancelling the order. When I checked my bank account several days later, the full total, including the "accidental" meal overcharge had been charged to my account. A refund did come through later that same day, AFTER I filed a complaint with the bank, and left a negative review. Someone from the business then lectured me in DMs that my account of the events was "unacceptable". They claimed the refund was issued on the 14th, even though we were still hit with the full charge on the 18th, which we had to contest. I suppose there's a possibility the charge cleared before the reversals were processed by the banking system, but nothing the bank said when I called them suggests this would be the case. Either way, bad experience, and I'd strongly suggest anyone coming in here keeps an eye on their receipt. Rude customer service, and nothing about this experience makes them seem trustworthy. read more

I finally get to write Graffiti Pizza a long-awaited review! Ever since we tried out Graffiti, it seems like my partner and I come here at least once a week. Whether you get their pizza by the slice or a whole pizza, you can't go wrong. The pizza slices are huge and are comparable to Costco slices. The ingredients they use are fresh and I love that they are open late! They usually have pepperoni, cheese, and they always switch up their combo and veggie options and each slice ranges from $4-$7. Sometimes the pizza can be a bit greasy but hey, if you're not looking for a bit of grease, why are you even getting pizza? I haven't tried too many of their whole pizzas but I do have my eye on the Cloud to try next! read more

Graffiti pizza - Slice of Pepperoni (cut in half) - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

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The bald guy behind the counter is super rude and disrespectful. Okay, it was my friends birthday and they order pizza and wings. I order a medium pizza. I accidentally drop one of the full cup ranch that my friend and I ask him can he replace it and he told he was going charge me $1. It's okay cool. So I was talking to his worker. It's either said I'm not paying you to flirt / you have hella orders or he said you have hella order stop flirting. After I heard that I want my money back. It's crazy he even talk to his staff in front of customers. I ask him for a refund. He asked me why I told him the ranch incident and how you talking to your workers. He was like we are friends. I told him as customers looking from outside that not how you talking to your staff. That when he started talking about YOU PEOPLE are trying to get free stuff from me. Which wasn't true. Then kept calling me a dumb bitch, ratchet bitch, and everything underneath the sun that night. I'm pretty sure he was talking about black people because I am black woman with other black women. After seeing all the comments about how he conducted himself in his restaurant is disturbing,Disrespect, and disgusting in other situations as well. We do not tolerate this type of behavior in OAKLAND. The fact he in our neighborhood and saying you people. Show how he feels about this community. read more

Was our favorite but has been going downhill recently. Overcooked, sauce changed, missing toppings, wrong orders, now overpriced. What happened?! read more

I don't know what these people were smoking when they gave this place 4.2 stars. Just had the pizza delivered. Looks and tastes absolutely disgusting. I took one bite. Won't be eating any more. In a nutshell: it's overcooked - they did not add extra cheese, which I paid for - it does not look fresh AT ALL - it has a chewy, rubbery crust - the cheese does not go all the way to the edge - they did not include the rice krispy treat, which I paid for - they did not honor my special requests in my order note. I paid $65 for this slop. My friend is not going to eat it either; she thinks it's tasteless. I disagree. It has taste: a very bad one. She suggested we get cybelles instead. It's that bad. I haven't eaten all day, and now it's almost 10pm and I have to figure out what to eat. read more

Graffiti pizza - Does this look appetizing to you?? Disgusting. Rubbery crust. Won't be eating. - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

The first time I checked in at Graffiti Pizza was on June 6, 2021 and the second time on June 20, 2021. At both times I was not able to write a review due to the business being bombarded by negative reviews re: whether the business is black owned. The pettiness of some people is ridiculous. The owner is "blackinese" or "blackasian". When I first met her, she was cordial and friendly. It didn't matter to me what her ethnic background was. The bottom line is whether or not the pizza is bomb-diggity good. (It was.) The manager who took my order the first time was pleasant and helpful. Wow! The second time I ordered my roll call pizza the same young lady remembered my name and acknowledged me. Great! Specialties: signature pizzas, calzones, pizza by the slice, sandwiches (bread is made fresh daily), salads and starters (garlic knots with marinara sauce and chicken wings). One can order a custom made/build one's own pizza. There are also assorted beverages on the menu. Housemade cheesecake is $8.00. Eats: My husband and I enjoyed the roll call pizza. It was tasty and delish. The crust was thin and the edges were soft and chewy. I even watched the chef tossed the pizza dough in the air. Cool! After the manager mentioned there was an outdoor patio, curiosity got the best of me and I had to go to the rear of the business to check it out. Casual dining in a comfy atmosphere. My guesstimate the outdoor patio has enough room for about 20 people. Future visits? Most definitely. I believe my next order is to build my own pizza. They have the ingredients to prepare a margherita pizza, which is one of my favorites. read more

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A nice place in a different part of Oakland than expected. You should try it. I got two pepperoni slices and then left. A hidden gem.

- Pizza by the slice, as an option which is great! - - - - Approx. $6 for a slice; big slices however - crispy crunchy crust without being too hard - mildly spicy pepperoni with the right amount of cheese. Not too cheesy and just a tad bit oily. - you'll get classic pizzas and you can't go wrong read more

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I ordered the 20-inch classic cheese pizza. The pizza may be on the pricey side, but well worth the price. One slice alone felt like 2 slices and the flavor/texture was good. The reason for the 3 stars is mainly because of the lady working behind the counter. When I went to pick up the pizza, she asked how many paper plates I wanted. I then replied "about 10." She then said, "I mean, there's only 8 slices." Like..... okay? A bit unnecessary to say. Not to mention, this was literally my first time visiting there so I had no clue how many slices came with it. Felt a bit snarky. read more

Graffiti pizza - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

These guys are open late which is great. My family decided to swing by one evening and grab a pizza. They got an XL cheese which was huge and filled up three adults and three children. The cheese was yummy and the pizza was not overly sauced. I would love to try some of their speciality pizzas. They sound and look good. Cute outdoor seating area in the back patio with heaters. Parking is a little tough in the area but not impossible. read more

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Pizza here is delicious and the service was very friendly. They have a full bar as well. Highly recommend.

Solid 2.5/3 pizza. Cheese and toppings were good. I got the king sizer which has some great ingredient pairings but their bread game is comparable to your best frozen pizza. read more

I love the pizza here!! Both the pizza and the crust are so bomb. We got a medium cloud pizza ($20). Comes with 8 big slices. Two will fill you up! The pizza comes with sausage, spinach, garlic, and ricotta. The bread they used tasted so fresh, and the combo of ingredients was mouthwatering. The pizza was beautiful with ricotta cheese "clouds". I didn't even know I liked ricotta until I had this pizza. The crust was like a perfect ending for each slice I ate. It was soft, crispy, and chewy all at the same time. Even tastier dipped in ranch. Garlic knots were really good too. I love their cloud pizza - I highly recommend trying it. I'll definitely be returning when I have another pizza craving. And I can't wait! I just need to make sure to order more ranch next time lol read more

Graffiti pizza - Medium 14'' cloud pizza - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

Super friendly service and excellent pizza with a ton.. I mean a TON of toppings! They do not skimp! I ordered their "Roll Call" which is like a meaty special at other places. The "Roll Call" includes heaping big chunks of sausage, pepperoni, salami, red bell peppers, and sliced olives with mozzarella over tomato sauce. Though they do not deliver, ordering over the phone is fast and easy with a friendly person on the other end to take your order. It took about 30 minutes from order to pickup time, which is a bit on the speedier side than most. The medium size is plenty for 2-3 people, starving teens on a growth spurt do not apply here! To pick up, I just double park, Lock the car and run in. Parking is kind of tight and the neighborhood may seem a tad sketchy. They hand that pizza right over piping hot with a minimum of delay, and it's PIZZA TIME once I get home.. We've been here twice now and they are consistently good in both pizza and friendly service! Leave 'em a good tip.. They try hard to make everyone happy! We are happy! ( no, I don't know them, I'm just a happy customer!) read more

Hands down my favorite pizza since discovering it. The fact that its a female black-owned business is like +1 million points!!! The ingredients are super high quality and bread and dough is so chewy and fluffy! read more

Graffiti pizza - The yards and old school - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

Delish pizza- ordered via uber eats and had no expectation. But i was pleasantly surprised that damn this pizza is gewd!!! The garlic knots--im not too much of a fan of (probably taste better when you dine it, warm & soft). The pizza has generous topping, delicious chewy nice crust. Ill be ordering again soon and i recommend you to try read more

Graffiti pizza - Spraycation (canada bacon, pineapple, mozzarella) - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

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Best plain cheese pizza I've had in the Bay Area. However, they're often closed weird hours (like...Friday at 3pm??) read more

They have garlic knots! The moment I saw that on the menu, I knew this was where I was going for dinner. They come covered with Parmesan cheese and a nice cup of hot sauce, just the way it's supposed to be. And great foldable slices, and some beers on tap, and a nice array of cocktails to boot. Great spot! read more

Graffiti pizza - Combo slice, garlic knots and a lager - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

I'm a fan of Graffiti pizza! Pizza-by-the slice or call ahead to order a pie for dine in or to go. Very casual environment with some 'fancy' (tasting) pizza...yummy! I know most people are all about the crust but I'm all about the sauce and Graffiti has the right balance: not too sweet, acidic, watery, good texture, etc. ...but get some sauce and cheese hitting the edges and 'no crust left behind' Nice sized slice and plenty for me...even my male coworkers who are big eaters said 1.5 slices (3 of them got 2 slices) is perfect...crust is a little flimsy (limp factor!) so you gotta fold it so the toppings don't slide from the generous sauce...did I mention I liked the sauce?! ** COLLABORATIVE CO-WORKER REVIEW ** Note: one self-declared "Grand Gastronomer" P R O S: = Very nice crust (assuming you like NY style) = Good amount/balance of crust, sauce, cheese = $5.75 does get you a very good sized slice = More options available by the slice than just cheese and pepperoni = Old School has nice chunks of sausage = Hands still smell like pizza after washing w/soap = Open late. Great for a snack after (fill in whatever activity!) C O N S = $5.75 for a slice = Forced to buy the slice- 45 min wait for whole pie = Hands still smell like pizza after washing w/soap = The Bus Hopper (spinach and mushroom) was a little bland (I thought it tasty) = Amount of toppings was nothing special Overall, we'd definitely return to order a whole pie and try other offerings. Located in Old Oakland and walking distance from 12th Street BART. Plenty of metered street parking. read more

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This place is pretty cool don't have nothing to much to say about it . It's a good spot & we was hungry so me and a friend of mine stopped and grabbed a slice of pizza read more

Dear Graffiti Pizza - I LOVE You! My friend and I were craving pizza and I found the pictures to look like authentic NY pizza, so we tried it. Um - yummy! The pizza slices are large covered with toppings. The pepperoni was a bit spicy and the crust was perfect. The bottom was crunchy, yet you can sink Your teeth into it for each delicious bite. The garlic knots were delicious little bites of soft dough covered with Parmesan and sitting in some Butter. The side of sauce was good, but lacking a tad in the flavor department. Not sure what the fuss is about with the staff, they were all friendly to us. Great pizza and drinks off the beaten path! read more

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*updated review. As of 3-1 lunchtime: Burnt outside, uncooked inside pizza crust. 1 of 2 pizzas I got was not edible due to uncooked crust. New staff, no familiar faces. I've been coming here for a few years now, every Friday. As I write this my tummy is stating to hurt. Hope it wasn't the undercooked pizza. This place USED to be a FREAKIN GEM! Best of the bay all day! WTF HAPPENED? *graffiti pizza OG instagram account is also shutdown......hmm. BABY COME BACK!! Please be sure to message me when you do! read more

Graffiti pizza - Uncooked dough. - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

Definitely some tasty ass pizza! Definitely a chill environment. And, def will be coming back again for more. Yuuup, you got that right! I love the location of this place! It's kind of tucked away in Old Oakland but not too far from many of my favorite bars. So essentially, I can drank it on up right down the street and come here to indulge in some greasy goodness afterward. The perfect plan! Oh... did I tell you that I already did that?! This was the perfect way to end my night of drinking. The interior is pretty cozy with a small bar up front and a few tables in the back. Really chill and super casual atmosphere. They specialize in pizza by the slice and their slices are HUMONGO!!! When I first saw the prices of their slices I thought: damn these people are trippin'! But after I got my slice I realized that I was the one trippin'. Trippin' out because they literally gave me 3 slices for the price of one. Now that's what I call a steal! Hella large and delicious pizza slices for dirt cheap! I'm diggin' it. I typically tend to go for cheese and/or meatless slices, but when I saw the "Old Skool" pizza, I knew that I couldn't resist. It just looked and sounded wonderful. It's a delicious meaty concoction of pepperoni, sausage, and mushrooms. Nom nom nom! The slices are thin and a little greasy with a crispy thin crust. Great flavors with just the right amount of cheese and pizza sauce. Basically, it was a "slice" of heaven in my mouth! ... Ya see what I did there?! But anyways, I'm totally down with Graffiti Pizza! Love that they have late hours too which I feel like was really missing in this part of town. This will definitely be my go-to late night eats jump off when I'm craving for some greasy goodness in old Oakland. read more

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HANDS DOWN one of the best Pizza joints in Oakland, or Bay Area! I am a pizza connoisseur, and have actually worked at 3 different pizza places, so I don't give this review lightly! Their pizza slices are out of this world! Not sure how they do it, but every time I've been in here, the experience was downright orgasmic! I've never gotten a pie, but their slices are the BOMB! So tasty! They also serve beer, which goes great with their slices. An outdoor patio is nice. They have even won awards for pizza! They are hanging on the wall behind the counter. The staff has always been nice and friendly, and there's this cute chick with glasses that works the register, but the dudes are hot as well. I go out of my way to drop by Graffiti Pizza. YOU GUYS ROCK! read more

This is the real deal! Old school quality, new school vibe. Graffiti is one hell of a great pizza joint. Pizza made with pride. Now I get why everyone talks about the award-winning pizza maker. But the trophies on the shelf are not what makes this is this a great place. It's the fact that Matt Molina loves pizza, knows pizza, and personally makes the pizza by hand. All those fancy-ass pizza joints around the Bay try to do Artisanal BS. So very many clever ingredient combinations that don't quite work. Yeah, they're tasty. Yeah, they're interesting. But the crust is soggy because there are five local veggies on one pie. Or the sauce isn't worth beans, but it's hidden under the fanciness. Meanwhile, this man is making masterpieces. Best 'za I've had in a long time. Excellent sauce. Super tangy. I thanked him for not making one of those sweet sauces. He told me that he doesn't add sugar. He likes the sweetness of the tomatoes to come out. If Jesus were a pizza maker, that's what he'd do! I had a spinach, olive and onion slice that was perfectly balanced flavorwise. I asked him about it and he said that's what he shoots for, balance. My pepperoni slice was a slice of heaven. Chock-full of meaty slices of pepperoni. Not those paper-thin slices favored by corporate chains. And so delicious. I really can't say much more about this place other than the fact that I can't wait for my next opportunity to come back. I should share a few other deets. It's the old cock-a-doodle-doo space. From what I could tell, the only thing that they left from the old spot is the 'open and close' sign with a rooster on it. The owner is partners with Matt, so I should ask him. The night I went in, the TV was playing gangster movies upfront. I was impressed that there was a good selection of bottled beers to go with your pie, including Peroni! Order a slice or two for five bucks or so each and you will be happy. That is if you love great pizza. If you need fancy-fancy, then go to the notable pizza restaurant of your choice. Enjoy your slice. Ask them the last time the legendary pizza chef associated with their establishment actually made a pie there. Or better yet, don't ask them. Instead, come here and see Matt doing his thing. 'Cause a great pizza maker, he wants to make pizzas. Not just build a brand with them. read more

Graffiti pizza - See the graffiti beneath and behind the open sign? That's what you'll see when you look at the window of Graffiti Pizza. - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

I wasn't sure what I was expecting, but seeing that it had a full five stars, my expectations were pretty high. Coming in, I noticed they had 4 choices of different pizzas. 2 vegetarian options and 2 with meat. I ultimately got the Old Skool, as the fancy vegetarian one had a type of cheese I didn't prefer. At $5.75 per slice, it seemed pricey, but the slices are 1/6th of the entire pizza, so that's a bit more fair. After ordering, the person heated up my slice of pizza for a good 5-7 minutes in the oven to warm it up. Upon first bite, it was a party in my mouth. The cheese was perfectly rich without being overpowering. The pepperoni wasn't too greasy to where I felt heavy and bogged down. You could taste the quality of the ingredients. And the tomato sauce within the pizza is phenomenal. I was a bit skeptical, but the creator of the pizza really considered everything from quality, to texture, to taste, to even the tomato sauce. Solid 5 stars. Even while drafting this, I am thinking of going back. read more

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One thing I've always found weird about Oakland after moving from Brooklyn is that hella places close early, and late night pizza, even on a Friday night, can be hard to find. This place comes to the rescue tho, and you can get a drink while you wait for your food! Also, I have to admit the pizza is pretty reminiscent of New York style, which is obviously my favorite, with the greasy thin crust you gotta kinda fold over to eat. The slices are also huge, which is always a big plus in my book too! So glad I found this place! read more

Graffiti pizza - Pepperoni slice - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

In my latest installment of the Great Pizza Adventure, I tried the Cloud pizza at Graffiti Pizza. And wow ... the pizza really lived up to the hype and to its name. The Cloud comes with a fresh tomato sauce base, mozzarella, spinach, garlic, sausage and heavenly dollops of ricotta cheese. It all works really well together, but when you bite into the puffy mounds of ricotta, it really is like biting into a creamy, buttery, cheesy cloud. I've had ricotta on pizzas before, but for some reason it was never this memorable. I'm almost drooling on the keyboard just thinking about it. I would have given Graffiti five stars, but the crust wasn't as thin, crispy, or bubbly as I usually like it, but that's just a personal preference. The pizza, which was ordered via DoorDash, was delivered hot, and I knew I was in for something special when I felt the heft of the box as the driver handed it to me. I cannot wait to try more of their pizzas, but the Cloud is already one of my local favorites. read more

Graffiti pizza - Up close and personal with the decadent puffs of ricotta on the Cloud pizza. So creamy and buttery. - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

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Great spot! Had the cloud pizza with ricotta, spinach and sausage and it was so good. My friends got the grandma and also liked it. About 10 seats inside plus a parklet. Sells beer. The crust is nice and crispy and the ingredients were high quality (sausage especially). Food came out pretty quick. They also have slices. read more

drew is the best cook there he rocks and his wings are off the hook. a definite must if you are hungry hit them up

This place has some of the best local pizza by the slice. The chef is a champion and has won awards for his pizza for a reason! They have a pretty cool indoor setup too. You have to find the miniature model of their restaurant. It's so detailed and accurate to the real thing! I would definitely choose this place if I'm hosting an event and need to feed lots of people. On the flip side, if you want delicious slices of pizza and a pint of beer, then this is the place to go to! The staff is also super friendly and helpful. This is as local Oakland as It can get. They also have a cool outdoor patio that you can chill with friends and family! Parking is also pretty easy. I highly recommend getting their combo-style pizza! read more

This is hands down one of the best pizzas in town. I'm not sure if they still do the spaghetti and meatballs on Sundays, but that was so good too. I have yet to have something here I don't like. Will always recommend read more

Their pizza is great probably one of the best in the area. However, it takes way too long to prepare the orders. We have already made peace with the fact that a single pizza might take up to 1.5 hours. Last night our order took about 2.5 hours and when we called the restaurant to check in, their interaction was very rude. Graffiti was our go to pizza place for years but we probably will never order from them again. read more

Fantastic, great pizza, great crust large portion size. I'm a slim guy, ate half that XL. My joint from now on. read more

Graffiti pizza - Pizza Near Me - Oakland, California

I don't know what happened. This was, at one time, the best pizza place in Oakland. Not anymore. I don't give a one star review lightly, but Graffiti Pizza has earned it. Over the last six months or so, they have gone from excellent, to inconsistent, to progressively worse with each order. This all culminated in my order last night in which I ordered garlic knots and a pizza. The garlic knots were undercooked, unseasoned, and completely lacking garlic. They were just unfinished lumps of dough plopped into a puddle of olive oil and butter. Because they were undercooked they were literally inedible. The pizza was even worse. It was thick, chewy, and very soggy. Almost as if it had been cooked underwater. It was, in a word, disgusting. As I said before, Graffiti Pizza was once the best pizza in Oakland. They have trended downward into literally inedible slop. I don't know if they have new ownership or management, or if it's a new kitchen staff, but something has drastically changed. They were once excellent and I sincerely hope they will be again. But, for now, avoid Graffiti Pizza like the plague. It's become a catastrophe. read more