Good on the surface, but deeply creepy management.
I have rarely regretted trusting my kids to anyone like I did with this camp. The cabin counselors were great, but the management was unbelievable. My kid was involved in two accidents -- once he was accidentally pushed down a hill and hurt his leg, but he told the other kid not to worry, he knew it was an accident. No problem -- part of camp life. Then he accidentally hit a kid who came up behind him in a game of tag when he made a sharp turn. Everyone (my kid, other kid, counselors) thought it was an accident, except somehow a guest who was observing decided to complain. Apparently the guest was a big donor, so the camp ejected my child. Well, first they yelled at him, then promised that he could stay if he signed a contract promising not to hit anyone else. He said sure, he never meant to hit anyone, he'd be glad to sign. Then they kicked him out anyway the next day.
My kid was sad, but he said that if they thought he was hitting people, then they should send him home. So I talked to the manager to say that I understood and would pick up my child, because while I knew him they didn't and so maybe they thought it wasn't an accident, but there had been a problem and I wished they hadn't told my kid he could stay when they hadn't actually decided yet -- that was what hurt him the most. He had trusted his counselor. I assumed they had made a mistake and I thought i was helping out so they wouldn't accidentally mislead a kid the next time this happened.
Their response? In a problem situation, they always tell the kids they can stay, and THEN decide, because otherwise sometimes the kids get upset. Whoa. And that's when they told me that everyone but this mysterious guest said that the whole thing was an accident. (I realize now that I have no idea about anything except what my kid told me, since that camp flat out told me that they lie about stuff. I stopped the conversation at this point and said I must have misunderstood, but they said no, lying is an important part of this, and it isn't really lying because sometimes they decide to do the thing they told the kid they were doing. But if lying is part of that process, maybe it's also a part of the "talk to parents" process? So maybe everything else they told me was just a story they tell parents?)
So the lying thing bothers me a lot, because in my family honest is an important virtue, but the strange guest making this decision bothers me even more. Orkila has non camp people wandering about, and lets them decide when to send kids home? Did this person just not like my kid? I find it rather sinister when strange adults focus on a single child like that. And when the people supposedly taking care of my child enable that? Like I said, I was on their side until this point. If they thought my kid was hitting people, send him home. In this case they were wrong, but mistakes happen. But they happen when the people you put in charge think they happen, not when you take the word of an outsider over the people (the counselors) you put in charge.
Or maybe there was no guest, and the camp lied about that but wanted to pretend that no one in the camp was responsible for decided to eject my kid. Again, huh?
The funny part? They still put "teaching honesty" and "being honest" as one of their core values.
They were also almost an hour late meeting me when I came to pick up my kid, but at that point I wasn't even surprised. I'd never send a kid back, and I worry about the counselors, because if a guest decided he didn't like one of them, it sounds like management would sell them out quickly as well. I wouldn't want my older children working for people like that. Other YMCA camps have different policies, but Orkila is just dangerous. There are lots of great camps out there -- my kids have been very happy at most (they were happy at this one, actually), but at the other camps, you can trust the people responsible for their care. Not at Orkila. read more