Very impressed with my routine maintenance, the technician uploads the video of them performing the multipoint inspection and you get a link to track the status of your service. Their setup is sophisticated and staff are friendly. read more

Extremely disappointed in my experience the past year. From the day we bought the car up until this point, not one person has taken action to make things right or correct their errors. The only helpful person so far was a third party person whom I met through a computer screen, not even in person. I have a list of people who I had to and continue to deal with, and documentation of everything. They have incorrectly filed my vin number under another person, and seem to be in no rush to rectify it. Not only is this legally an issue, but I am also not able to use the bluelink that I should have had access to the past year. I have talked to managers from several departments, people in accounting, sales, even the service department. Do not work with any of the following: Jessie Valdez, Andrew Narvaez, Alicia Perez, Al Garcia, Antonio, Anthony read more

The sales side of this dealership is actually pretty nice, even if they haven't had the vehicles I wanted in stock. I'd give them theee stars. The service side is everything wrong with car mechanics today. I'd give them negative three stars. Since I can't issue an average rating of zero, one star it is. That's a generous "rounding up." Communication is absolutely terrible. They don't follow up when they say they will, and their website is either way behind or the service reps are just outright lying to you about where your car is in the process. The service reps have no clue about what's under warranty and not. On one visit I was told to bring my car in immediately because it was almost out of warranty, so I did, but then I was notified that the warranty expired months ago. I knew that it had, but the technician didn't until she tried to comp my repair. If they provide you with a time estimate, double it and presume that you'll need to follow up multiple times with them for updates. For example, "you can pick it up today" means "it will actually be ready tomorrow," and "we'll have an estimate to you in an hour, hour-and-a-half max" means "you'll be reaching out at the 2 and 3 hour marks and we'll finally get back to you only because you kept bothering us." On my previous visit, I came in for an AC repair. They held the vehicle and extra day and all of a sudden recommended a serpentine belt repair that required extra charge and an hour of waiting. The belt they installed failed in less than a year. When I took the car to my usual mechanic for a replacement, his tech pulled off the old one, compared it to the new one, and showed me that it was the right length but the wrong width. $80 wasted to replace a repair that probably wasn't even originally needed. On my more recent visit, I came in for three specific needs on my vehicle. One was a specific recall and the rest were apparently known issues from the manufacturer regarding my model year. The technicians did their supposed "multi-point inspection" and came back with seven recommendations, which somehow only covered TWO of the three issues I brought the vehicle in for. One issue was completely ignored. Out of the five extraneous items that they added, three of them had been completed in the last six weeks and reported by the repair shop to Carfax, so there was zero reason to include those items. The other two were similarly unnecessary but the last servicing had happened months ago so it wasn't as egregious as the first three. Despite these items being known issues needing repair, none of the parts are in stock and they have to order them, so I have to wait and come back in a week or two. Unless you need a Hyundai specific repair job, such as a warranty or recall repair, skip this place entirely. Their diagnosticians and mechanics are complete scam artists. read more

Sterling-McCall Hyundai and Alex Esquivel cheated me on my trade. Neither were transparent about my paperwork and closing costs. I was not allowed to receive a hard copy. It was on computer and I was told to press the yes button without knowing what I was agreeing to. No transparency whatsoever. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I RECEIVED FOR MY TRADE UNTIL I GOT HOME. I WOULD NEVER HAVE DONE BUSINESS WITH THIS DEALERSHIP IF i HAD KNOWN HOW CROOKED THEY WERE! Alex Esquivel should be sued for taking advantage of an elder. I'm sure Alex got a bonus for cheating out of a $1000 read more

I purchased a 2021 F-250 last year. When the vehicle arrived I noticed there were some WARNINGS in the dash. The lane change and blind spot indicators were not working. It was discovered that this was due to after market taillights. The local Ford Dealer told me the lights needed to be replaced. Informed Sterling McCall of this I had many emails with the previous General Manager and kept getting the run around, Now the new GM will not respond - no concern for my safety and no effort to make this right - It has been 1 year and 5 months to date! - And forget trying to contact Group 1, it is impossible read more

I had an extremely frustrating and disappointing experience with this dealership yesterday. After spending an entire day communicating with their team--both over text and phone--to finalize a deal on a vehicle, I went in person to test drive and complete the purchase. I test drove the car, confirmed price and signed a contract to purchase, and was literally in the process of writing a check when they sold the same car to someone else that arrived after me and had not even test drove the vehicle yet. Their explanation was "miscommunication between dealership managers," (Antonio and Juan) which is unacceptable given how much prior coordination had already taken place. This wasn't a casual inquiry--I had clearly committed to buy the car, and they knew I was actively moving forward with the purchase.. This level of disorganization and lack of accountability is shocking for a dealership. It felt like my time and commitment meant nothing to them. The entire situation could have been avoided with basic internal communication and professionalism. Without a doubt, this was the worst customer service experience I've ever had. I would strongly caution others to think twice before doing business here. read more

Sterling McCall Hyundai - Car Dealers Near Me - Houston, Texas

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Never had a good experience at this location. No matter what you drop your car off for, expect an extra 2-3days before you get it back. Completely inept service department. Move so slow between tasks and then have the audacity to upcharge on quotes. If i didn't have a hyundai, this place would never know i existed. read more

Shady dealings with the numbers. Quoted price on write up of car then tried to add back in window tint, wheel locks, iKon security subscription, and other hidden fees. Deceptive trade practices from sales person Juardo and car manager. Then car manager got rude and yelling once I called him out on adding back in what was already included in the original price. What scumbags! Working with the finance manager was the only positive experience. read more

I am extremely disappointed with my recent experience at your dealership. I purchased a 2013 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid. Within hours of driving the vehicle home, the ABS warning light appeared, accompanied by a hybrid system warning instructing me to stop driving. The vehicle lost braking power, entered limp mode, and produced a grinding sensation in the wheels--posing a serious safety risk. I returned the vehicle the very next day. Your team claimed to have repaired the issue, but the same problem reoccurred just days later. When I brought the car back again, the dealership refused to perform any further repairs, citing the "as-is" sale clause. This response is unacceptable given the nature of the defect. Selling a vehicle with a faulty hybrid ABS hydraulic brake booster pump--an issue that directly affects braking performance and safety--is not only irresponsible, but potentially deceptive. Such a vehicle should never have passed inspection, let alone been sold without disclosure. The "as-is" clause does not absolve the dealership from accountability when a known safety defect is present at the time of sale. I e-mailed the GM but never got a replace to date (6 weeks). read more

High pressure sales. My car got towed here by my mechanic. I had a new engine put in that failed within 2000 miles. They do not want to honor their warranty of 12 months/12000 miles. They want more money than the car is worth. I didn't even take my car there. Greedy and horrible. Do not take your vehicle here read more

Group One Hyundai service department has a very knowledgeable staff to help you with your needs to service your Hyundai. Caleb was very helpful with continuous updates on the vehicle being worked on in the shop after it having its issues on and off putting it in a limp mode momentarily and wouldn't store a code. They had my vehicle several times trying to duplicate the issues due to it not storing a fault code or if it did, it would clear it out on its own after a few restarts making it difficult to duplicate for the technician along with warranty tech line. Once they were able to get a code to stick and were able to replace some parts under warranty this vehicle has never ran better! Heather the service director also got involved with my vehicle and made sure to keep me in the loop on her end making sure everything was being handled properly. Great job Group One Hyundai! read more

Service department was outstanding, expecially Donhan Murrell. Didn't try to overchargs me and even told me I could go a few more months before needing to replace my front brakes. Fast service too. read more

Never again will they be servicing my car. Why are we taking close to 4 hours for a oil change after they told me only an hour and 30 minutes? They come tell you it's almost done knowing you still have another hour left . They try to convince you to pay them a crazy amount of money to fix simple stuff that's you can do at home. Staff are ok but this is a bs buisness that needs to be fixed. I would never buy anything from them or give any buisness. Nobody has a sense of urgency. read more

Where do I begin... First of all, I THOUGHT I knew where I was going until I pulled up to an abandoned parking lot. Sterling McCall moved to a new building in JANUARY about a block away from their old location but I insisted on driving to where I thought I needed to go;assumptions! That's what happens when you go to mom and pop auto shops for oil changes on your vehicle. When I finally got to the right location, even though signs were pointing me in the right direction, I didn't see what I thought was the service center, SMH. It wasn't until I went inside and asked the receptionist is when I discovered that I had to drive through the automatic doors to get checked in. As I pulled up to the garage door, it automatically rolled up; fancy! I was greeted inside this enclosed room by 2 service techs. They were very nice in explaining to me what I needed to do and Troy, the service advisor, showed me where the lobby was so I could wait on my car. Every employee that I came in contact with was extremely nice from start to end. When I walked into the lobby, it was awe-inspiring! A huge seating area with 24 comfy chairs, 2 big screens and multiple charging outlets. You know how you go to someone's house and it's so tidy, you feel the need to take your shoes off so you don't track any dirt? Yeh, that's how I felt when I entered the lobby. I brought my own food and drink and asked permission to eat it inside, LOL! I visited the ladies room and even the sinks were built with the latest technology. As I was sitting in the lobby, I spotted my car through the bay window. I could see the techs working on my vehicle. No wondering what's going on behind closed doors. I had a front row seat to see all the action! I responded to the text that Troy sent me asking for my tires to be filled and car to be washed; Troy responded within 10 minutes "for sure!" I later received the text with the multi inspection report. Not only was it the detailed report but also a video showing everything that was checked and the fluids that were topped off. There were 2 things that required my immediate attention; cooling system drain and tire mount and balance. The report broke down why it would be beneficial to proceed with the service; so detailed and convenient! In total, it took 1 1/2 hours to do the oil change, car wash and coolant flush. I honestly have nothing bad to say; 5 stars all the way! I'm so pleased with the service that I received that I wanted everyone to know about it! read more

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I am in the market for an Ionic 9 and Sterling McCall is one of these dealers closest to me, but after reading th3 reviews I would be crazy to do business with this outfit. Their practices are the worst, the seem to lie and cheat. I don't know how Hyundai keeps them as their dealership. I'll go someplace else, even if it is much farther away. Thank you to all the people that reviewed this low class business. What get's me is the the owner and service manager have this standard answer to all the negative comments, but obviously do nothing to improve the service. read more

Best car buying experience EVER! 10000/10 - would recommend!! Andy was so helpful and informative, and made us feel right at home! Everyone was so friendly and the facility was impeccably clean! It was such an easy process and I feel so lucky to have found the car of my dreams! Thank you so much for everything!!!!! read more

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If I make an appointment on Friday to drive a car on Monday at 1:00pm..... and you text to verify the appointment Saturday, again you verify the appointment SUNDAY....then you verify the appointment Monday at 10 AM by VM I called back at 11am when I was LEAVING MY HOUSE and then I drive OVER an hour to come test drive the car at 1 o'clock on Monday only to find out when I get there that the car was SOLD on SATURDAY!!!! Why was that not disclosed to me when I talked to you at 11 AM on Monday that the car that I was coming to drive wasn't even there!!!!!!! Then you try the bullshit of we have these other cars. I don't want those other cars, THANKS FOR WASTING MY TIME!!!! From one sales person to another verify the car is there BEFORE you confirm the appointment and if it's not there, be HONEST with your prospect!! I DO RECOMMEND CARMAX WHEN YOU MAKE A RESERVATION TO TEST DRIVE THE CAR. NOBODY ELSE CAN CHECK OUT THE CAR. I BOUGHT A CAR YESTERDAY FROM CARMAX 10 OUT OF 10 RECOMMEND!! read more

Dropped my car off to an oil change to find damage to the steering wheel. Had to call 20 times to finally schedule them to fix it for free. Great. They took care of it. Check dashcam to find someone revving my car and driving it hard in a parking lot so that the tires are squealing from almost losing grip. The manager and other advisor told me that's because my car has an exhaust? Had that driver asked me to rev the engine, it would have been a different story. Leave your car here if you want your property disrespected. read more

Never buy a car here, they are irresponsible people, who do not respond, after they sell the vehicle they no longer appear, I canceled a warranty 7 months ago and they never sent the money to my bank or me, it is $3700, I call them and they place a thousand excuses and lies that the financier is never there. I contacted the warranty and they make sure that the money was sent to the dealer a long time ago, I don't know what else to do. What a bad time!!! I want my money back or failing that they send it to the financial bank, disrespect and seriousness!!! read more

I went to Sterling today thinking that I wasn't going to walk out with anything. All my hopes were on an older used car that is good enough to get to point A to B. Also the car I went in for was being sold at that very moment! But Shane & Samuel came in & saved the day! They sold me a brand new car with the exact price I was looking for. The customer service was absolutely wonderful and they helped me feel confident in my decision. So just go in and see what they have to offer and they definitely will work you! I worked with Shane & Samuel! read more

Prepare to be kidnapped!! Will hold your keys hostage even after you tell them you're not interested. Walked in to test drive a car and after expressing I wasn't interested they held my keys while 5 different people tried to sell me the car. Begged and pleaded for my keys and it took raising my voice at the manger to get them back who magically had them in his back pocket after getting visibly angry. 1/1000000000 wouldn't recommend this dealership to my worst enemy! read more

Oh Hyundai, where can I start?!? I bought the good old extended warranty for my tires, the interior and windshield warranty and that was a complete waste of money! My windshield crack, called the extended warranty, they denied the claim, the crack can't be more than 6 inches. Had a small hole in the leather, can't repair it due to it being more than one inch. February last year, it took them 2 months to get a transmission lock. Now leading up to my most recent encounter: I dropped off my 2024 Palisade Calligraphy on MLK Day for an oil change, a nail in the side wall of my tire and to address a clunking noise. I received the car back on 2/5, and the service department informed me there was a nail in the sidewall of my tire, yet they told me it was my responsibility to handle the flat. Again, I have road side hazard extended warranty, but according to my service manager, it was "expired." My main concern was safety--why wasn't this noted in the repair paperwork or at least addressed by filling the tire with air? Additionally, I'm questioning the thoroughness of the so-called 500-point inspection, especially after my struts were repaired. When I asked my service advisor about it, he dismissed it, saying it wasn't his problem. I was shocked and upset that the dealership seemed unconcerned about my safety, especially when they were willing to send me home with a flat tire at 7:30 pm. When I mentioned this, the service advisor claimed my tire warranty had expired--how is that even possible for a 2024 vehicle? To make matters worse, when I tried to resolve the situation of the tire and try to get the loaner vehicle back, the service advisor simply walked away. Juan, the technician, was the one who went above and beyond to help me. He not only helped me swap out the tire because my jack broke but he told me to came back the next day to speak with the Service Manager Heather. Heather helped and apologized for the service I encountered. I am deeply disappointed that a dealership would put a customer's safety at risk and treat them as if their concerns don't matter. To top it all off, they mentioned a knocking sound in my engine but didn't even bother to bring it to my attention or offer any explanation. With so many issues for a car being so new, it makes me think the quality of how their top of the line cars are made. It is such an inconvenience having to bring my car back and forth when all these problems could have been addressed and resolved with communication and explanations. Hyundai, this experience has been unacceptable. I will not be returning and will be trading in my vehicle. I wish I could leave a ZERO star rating!! NEVER WILL I DO BUY A CAR FROM HYUNDAI. I will stick with the LEXUS / Toyota Family. read more

Good location for me, I bought my first Hyundai here a Palisade. Nice new building, they had an open house which I was not invited to. I went in for my first service 10 months into my first year and 2k +. Tho the service writers have been friendly, I would prefer to always have the same one. Once in it took 3 plus hours to complete the service. The chairs in the waiting room should be replaced with recliners. I wonder if I can have my services done at Kia instead if a shorter wait? read more

Wanted to update my review to highlight the stellar service I received when I brought my car in recently. Their new renovated location is so nice; a very comfortable place to hang while your car is being serviced. The staff is so helpful and nice, I felt like I was being given honest information and recommendations. I especially appreciate their new feature where they give you a video overview of any issues encountered during service. All very transparent, efficient, and effective. Kudos to them! read more

Top notch Hyundai dealer. Need service so I made an appt online. Easy to do. Arrived at scheduled time and got right in. An appt is highly recommended. Nice, new, clean and convenient facility. My service advisor, Don, was very professional and was on it from the start. Good coffee bar, clean restrooms, and a nice showroom loaded with new cars to browse while you are waiting. read more

A wretched hive of scum and villainy. They quote a price online and then demand $2313 in hidden fees on top of the advertised price. Mostly for useless, or even dangerous, dealer add-ons. All weather floormats for $375, even though carpeted mats are included on the sticker for $210?!? I have to have $195 door edge guards? But do I really? Major tire retailers don't even have nitrogen to put in tires, but this place thinks I need green plastic valve stem caps for $150. $500 for a spray of Scotchgard, another $500 for some app. The worst of all is $500 to tint the two front windows. I'm old. My night vision already isn't what it used to be. I don't need limo tint on the front windows, and shouldn't be forced to pay for this hazardous add-on. Stay far, far away, you should. read more

My experience went smooth and my salesman Andy was a very great help and honest. I walked away overly satisfied with buying/trading my car!! Big Thanks!! read more

Sterling McCall Hyundai - THANKS ANDY! - Car Dealers Near Me - Houston, Texas

Cedric was awesome helping me with my car service at Hyundai. Super friendly, easy to work with, and kept me updated the whole time. He made the process smooth and stress-free, and really took care of everything. Definitely hit him up if you need great service. read more

I had purchased a 2023 Hyundai Elantra Limited form you guys on the 18th of January 2025 and the guy who did our deal, Rodger lied to both me and my mom when we were signing the paper work and due to this lie he gave us, the bank had voided the loan and now I'm out of a car yet again. And because of your employees screw up we have to pay the price since now we can't get approved for another deal. We shouldn't be paying the price for someone's else's mistake. And a heavy price at that. I went back and forth literally dozens of times trying to get everything rectified and nothing was solved. All I kept getting from your finance team was " I can't do anything about it " like this is absolutely ridiculous dude. There's a reason why everyone told me not to buy from you guys and I should have listened. I understand Rodger is no longer with you guys but we still shouldn't be paying the price for your mistake. And now we can't get to work since you guys took the car away from us. Is this really how you want to run a business? Having employees lie to their customers to get deals out the door? Some really shady business practices. I have been very compliant and maintained my composure. But enough is enough and now it's too late since you guys took the car back on false pretenses that YOUR business told us. read more

My appointment to service 2022 Hyundai was completed on time. The car was delivered washed and ready to go.

First don't buy a Hyundai period, old new the electrical system costs to repair are ridiculous. Second when you have to take your car for recalls, they'll try to sneak something in there to charge you with. My 4 recalls are electrical and shorting out the SECOND battery I bought for this money pit, they want to charge me $436 for another new battery to fix the recalls. Didn't charge up my week old battery to try to get it to stay on for the repairs. They said there's nothing they can do until I get a battery. I have to walk 5 miles with this battery because they have my only means of transportation. Don't go to this dealershit or any Hyundai dealershit. Chevy, Honda or Toyota non electric is your best bet. As sooooon as I can get rid of this POS I'm getting me a Chevy and dealing with less stress. ETA: theyre not doing the recalls I gotta take my car back home. I'm not referring anyone to this godforsaken shithole or to buy any Hyundai read more

Sterling McCall Hyundai at Houston 77074 installed airbag unit as part of a recall last the visit. I The airbag light comes, and I went to the dealership to fix the light, they said they are not responsible, and they want $490 inspection cost plus the repair, and I have to leave the car for 3 weeks. This is how not professional services guys said and I tired to meet Maurice the general manager, but I could not The dealership must install genuine parts that last for time not to require fixing every couple of months and this is their responsibility. I am flagging the Belvoir on my recall so far. this is not a good reputation for your company I hope this done urgently to avoid further issues and we maintain good relationship rather than fighting read more

Had my car serviced and was in and out in a minute! Thanks to Dillon, the wait was almost nonexistent and I left without a worry in mind about any issues with my vehicle! read more

Just go to Rosenberg. Unfortunately at this facility, I didn't waste much of an experience as I did at the other Steele... these locations are owned by the same corporation or individual and trust me, it shows!!! I call this place and Steele prior to driving ALL the way over there... both locations state they're booked out about a month but encouraged to do walk ins... BOTH FACILITIES ENCOURAGED WALKINS... yes, I told them the issue and solution prior to them mentioning 'just do a walk in' I also ensured I was speaking with the SERVICE departments... names? Nope didn't get but in the end, their names weren't worth knowing... so I go here first (that's another nope, not accepting walk ins... issue was a trunk latch base recall... I literally had a rope tied to my trunk going into my back seat... just tied next to my newborn. Needless to say, I drove all the way to ROSENBERG graciously and had my latch installed with ease. It was also less cluttered with cars and facility is a lot nicer. I will always go to Rosenberg for anything pertaining to my vehicle SN: I also tried to book an appointment on the website for the recall for here and the Steele location. I typed in my vin, nope! No recalls were found on the site BY THE VIN ! I made an appointment online at Rosenberg and someway somehow I was able to book an appointment online for the issue by my dammmm vin! 3 Hyundai locations just for a recall smh shame on you! I could have seen if I just drove there without speaking to someone but I literally spoke to your people!!! Poor communication amongst ppl who sit within the same bldg read more

My Genesis G80 a/c stopped working in Aug Texas summer (104*). I called 3 Genesis dealerships attempting to get repair ASAP. 2 gave me a service date 2 months out. Sterling McCall service manager Mark Nikolaus asked me to arrive next morning and he would 'work me in'. He did! I was cool in my car and out the door by noon. Service writer Fred & valet were outstanding -professional and personable. STERLING McCALL GENESIS is my dealer!!! read more

I made am appointment to have a recall for fire hazard completed on my 2013 Hyundai Elantra that I purchased new from Sterling McCall Hyundai. On the first appointment they brought my car in and came back stating they do not fuse to address the recall. They then stated brakes are in the yellow and suggest they do full service and brake repair. I know the brakes were still okay and refused the upsell service. At this time rescheduled appointment for the recall. Showed up doe the service and they said they are not able to do the fire hazard recall. They knew prior to both appointments they were not able to perform the service and failed to call me to cancel the appointment. I lost time off work and travel costs and they did not care. Confirmation Code: X029E4EJ34 Date and Time: Jun 24, 2024 10:30:00 AM read more

I had Recall in my Hyundai Elantra REAR BACKUP CAMERA, so I called for the service appointment and I got an appointment with Mr . Murrell, He is the best person there, who talk and handed customers really very professionally and friendly manner. All thanks to his great customer service and he had my camera fixed by ordering a new set for my car. He promised me to fix this issue as soon as possible which was kept on the same day. I just waited for two hours and got my Camera fixed. If I would be back for my service again I would be happy to get appointment with him and get my car serviced. read more

I always dread dealing with dealership services but this has to be the very best service I have ever received! Setting the appointment with Johnny Maldonado was very easy. He was ready to greet me the moment I arrived and made everything simple and effortless. The new building is beautiful and made for a comfortable experience. Johnny was informative, pleasant and addressed me by name, treated me like family. I am so happy to be part of The HYUNDAI experience. read more

HIGHLY RECOMMEND!!! I am a young woman and this was one of my first times going to a car dealership on my own. I have always been scared because you hear about the salesmen that think young girls/women are easy to screw over, but that was not the case here. From the moment I walked in I was treated with the utmost respect by Edward. He walked me through every detail of the car and all of the numbers, overall a total of 6 hours he spent with me. He made things extremely comfortable and relaxing. He knew everything about the car and more but also was very knowledgeable about how to treat and talk to guests. I had went to the Hyundai dealership in the Katy the day before I went here and i was treated so horribly. They were rude, pushy and unknowledgeable. They continued to push cars out of my budget and were not upfront and honest with me. Edward, however, was upfront and honest. I highly recommend this dealership but most of all, ask for Edward when you go there. He will do everything in his power to make sure the costumer is happy and gets the best deal possible. I walked out with my first brand new car and will never give a second thought about going somewhere else. Edward created a lifelong costumer. read more

Absolutely horrible service! I have been a loyal Hyundai customer and this is the 4th Hyundai dealership I've been to through 3 different vehicles. This is the worst experience ever! If you take your vehicle here take pictures/video prior to leaving. I will never willing go back. My vehicle came in with a crack that went left to right and did not go past the drivers side and when I picked up my vehicle 2 hours later it had a crack that expanded and went top to bottom. Their solution was to replace it with a $1500 windshield with a $500 discount and I would be responsible for the remaining $1000 for a new windshield. I asked for something else to an oil change or something for the inconvenience and to make this right so I don't have to spend an extra $1k but they refused. It was more me reaching out and following up than them reaching out to me. It took 2.5 weeks to talk to a manager and get an apology. It seems like a sneaky way to either make money or to avoid taking responsibility and make this right. Go anywhere else but here! read more