The quality of our shower is first class. The promise of four hour service is true! They were in and out; no mess left behind. It was amazing. We would recommend them to anyone in need of a change over with their bath tub to a stand up shower. And it's also beautiful. read more

Do not use PJ Fitzpatrick for your home remodeling project. This has been an absolute nightmare, and I would not want another homeowner to go through what my husband and I are dealing with right now. On May 20th, we hired them for a simple shower remodel. At first, everything looked fine and we believed the work had been done properly. Unfortunately, we later discovered the installer had damaged the drain during installation. Because we did not use the shower for more than 24 hours, there were no immediate signs of a problem. We began using the shower on May 22nd through May 26th. Then on May 26th, my husband noticed a large bubble forming in our den ceiling along with water dripping from it. He immediately contacted the company to report the issue. A technician came out to inspect the damage and confirmed the leak was coming from the newly installed shower drain. As the photos show, our ceiling had to be torn open because of the damage caused during the installation. Today is May 28th, and we are still dealing with the aftermath. We were told technicians would come today to repair the drywall and ceiling. I even received an email confirming the appointment, but no arrival time was provided. By 12:03 p.m., no one had shown up, and I had to contact the supervisor myself for an update. After damaging our home, why should I have to chase someone down for answers? The supervisor told me they should arrive around 12 p.m., which clearly did not happen. I then received another call saying the technician was running behind and would "maybe" arrive between 1:00 and 1:30 p.m. At this point, I am simply warning other homeowners. Save yourself the stress, time, money, and frustration. Please consider using another company. read more

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Total disaster Keep getting bills from them. I was instructed to stop 2 payments to through Chase credit card. read more

PJ Fitzpatrick - Roofing Near Me - New Castle, Delaware

The only positive thing I can say is the salespeople and installers show up on time .... that's a plus.... BUT... We liked their product AND made the biggest mistake of our lives.... we AGREED. We were told once we agreed with PJF on everything that they were busy and install time would be mid-May, possibly a little later. Fine by us...1 week later they "had an opening" and we could jump past ALL others on the list...OK...and should be finished in one day! The next morning the installer showed up on time and started the prep for installation. I should have known I was in trouble when the installer called me into the bathroom and asked exactly what I agreed on with his salespeople, he said that the paperwork he had was a little incomplete and some of it did not make sense. We hashed it out and he went to work. During one of my check-in's the installer said he was planning on being finished by 3 PM so he would not hit the traffic at the bridge/ tunnel on his way home. At 4 PM he was still here (He hit some tough plumbing issues supposedly ...not his fault.) I sensed he was trying to speed things up when he pulled out the glass doors and found out he had the wrong doors. Apparently, the packaging was marked wrong. I told him to stop right there, go home and come back the next day with the correct set of doors. (He wasn't sure they had a correct set of doors in the warehouse, but they did) He also had issues with the bull nose molding and needed another piece. He said he would be back the next day after 11 AM. Again, on time, he shows up for another 2 3 +/- hours hanging the doors and trying to make the molding fit an unusual cut that I have in my wall by the shower. I wish someone had told me that the molding they had wouldn't really do what it needed to do to cover what it needed to cover. What a mess. He did the best he could, but for what I am paying this product should look 200% better than it does. The caulking around the exterior is smeared. He tried to fix it but not so much. My 12-year-old granddaughter could have done a better job. He hung the shower fixture too high so my 5 ft 4 in wife could not reach the switch on top. He hung one of the grab bars too high for her. The bench he installed was full of caulking for no good reason; He left the drain cover and the glass door spacer off and did not tighten up the stops on the frame. The molding that he tried to cover the gap was at least 1/4 in short and other cracks were filled with caulking. The shower pan is soft and a little bouncy as well.... With everything on the outside, we physically see ...what does everything behind the scenes look like? After a few hours the installer told my wife he was complete and not move the shower doors for 24 hrs and he left. I came home after work and found the obvious errors we could see without moving the doors. At that point we are not happy. The next morning at 08:56 AM I called (no answer) then texted the girl (Tiffany) that was assigned as my "Production Coordinator" to tell her we were not happy and would like someone to give us a call to discuss. It was over 2 hours, and I had only received one text from I believe to be Tiffany at 10:02 AM and it states "Good morning, thank you for bringing this to our attention. I have sent your message to our production manager. Thank You" One-week later JPF sent out a minion to look at the installation, JORGE. By this time the wife is extremely pissed! What kind of customer service leaves an obviously pissed off customer waiting 1 week? Jorge agreed that the installation was bad. He then said he needed to go back and talk with his manager. That's been 8 weeks ago and still nothing...CRICKETS...I am now smelling mold in the bathroom coming from the caulking abortion around the bench.... there is a 1/ 4 + inch or bigger gap. Would not be supersized if it wasn't black mold.... No response from Jorge or his manager to date. I told Jorge in one of my texts to him that time does not make an extremely pissed off customer better. We told Jorge/Tiffany in a text that they needed to send someone here and remove this product and cancel our order.... With this type of customer service, I don't see them honoring any warranty.... If JPF's goal is to leave our customers 100% satisfied they have a funny way of showing it. It should be 'leave our customer" ...PERIOD!!!! IT HAS BEEN OVER 8 WEEKS WITH ZERO CORRSPODANCE FROM JPF!!! They also do a great job in hiding behind their text and phone calls....as in you don't get any response... BUYER BEWARE If a JPF employee is reading this...which I doubt...PLEASE HAVE A MANAGER GET IN TOUCH WITH ME!!! read more

You do not need a pressure filled presentation just to have someone come to look at an issue and give you a quote. I also contacted them to stop calling as they claim but I've had to block 3 different numbers they call from. Moreover, I never gave them permission to save my contact information to repeatedly call and harass me about services. Any company that adds your number and data to their call list isn't trustworthy. read more

They screwed us over. Said we would have interest free for a year, sales rep never get us a signed contract and now they send us a bill for services when we weren't supposed to be charged interest for a year. Bad salesmanship, unprofessional. They now have their financial company harassing us with calls. Don't use their services. They are a scam! read more

Still no updates or response. Steer clear. Promised 4-8 weeks going on 10 communication is non existent

I had my windows done by PJ Fitzpatrick a $20,000 job I put down $10,000 and the balance would be financedthrough them. told me once the job was complete. The finance would kick in and they would contact me. I started calling them two weeks after they were installed . The windows are in no word from the finance company, but I did get a bill for the Fitzpatrick and I don't understand they told me I had the financing I wouldn't the work done if I didn't get the financing because I don't have the money to pay it in full. .. and who does ? now I cannot get them on the phone. very shady I've never had worked on that. I had gotten the financing and they didn't follow through. I don't know if it's a scam to get you to do the work and then you're on the hook for the Balance. I don't know but it's a really crappy feeling. Especially when you don't have the money To pay in full read more

I requested an estimate to replace an existing storm/screen door. The existing door could not handle outdoor elements very well so I was hoping to find something a bit more suitable. The technician arrived on time and was genuinely trying to make sure he could provide an estimate for an appropriate product. He contacted his sales manager and had him on speakerphone. He explained the situation to his manager and told him that the customer was there with him. Whoever it was he was speaking with abruptly cut him off and said "Just sell her a f***ing door, just sell her a f***ing door". Wow, talk about awkward! The phone call abruptly ended when I said that I hope he knows I am standing right here! The technician did his best to smooth that over, but you know, it speaks volumes of their practices. I was charged $65 for the estimate. After realizing I had the interaction captured on my Ring doorbell, I contacted the company and was told I would be immediately refunded the estimate charge and "Patrick" would contact me directly about this. Neither had happened and it has been a week since this occurred. I did receive an email from Marisa asking if I needed any help with my purchase decision! I asked her again to have Patrick contact me...no response. Is this their standard sales practice? read more

Got Very expensive quote for siding, windows and front door April 2026 A month later (June 2, 2026) when they came out to measure everything two days later they said the siding I order in a specific color was not available. Do you think they would have checked that in the month it took them to come out? Plus they didn't honor my request to have new construction windows use in the back of the house. I call certainteed about the siding and received a letter that that color siding was discontinued 2 years ago and 7 months ago ( September 1, 2023) . When I called to speak with the contractor and told them to cancel the entire project for selling something they can't deliver. I still haven't received the phone call back. It is now in the hands of my attorneys and I believe I can seek triple damages. I would not call these people if they were the last company left in the world read more

I had PJ Fitzpatrick come today to quote me on some Okna Vinyl replacement windows. I was very clear with the girls who set up the appointment as to what Okna window series I was interested in. The guy came prepared to try to sell me windows I did not want. He ended up leaving in a huff. It's my house and my money, shouldn't I be able to buy what I want. I should have paid more attention to all the bad reviews. read more

Avoid this company at all costs. I wanted an estimate for a new front door. These rip off artists quoted me $33,000 for a front door after torturing me with a ridiculous 40 minute slide show on an iPad touting how amazing they are. The salesman was able to tell me with a straight face that a basic front door would cost as much as a brand new Toyota Camry. AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!! read more

PJ Fitzpatrick - This is the estimate presented to me for a steel door and a fiberglass door. Try not to laugh. - Roofing Near Me - New Castle, Delaware

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Had siding replaced and windows wrapped. PJ Fitzpatrick once was great and worth the extra money, not so much now. Had a dozen problems with install being rushed. Communication was poor, calls not returned not a good thing. The onsite supervision was poor, not the supervisors just the fact they are spread so thin they don't get to watch over the work as truly needed. So, the customer is at the mercy of the sub-contractor hired for the work. Took 45 days to get all repaired and job completed. Having used PJs on several big projects, this time was not happy at all. Things have changed and not for the good. read more

Well, the installers were prompt and ready to work. They did a phenomenal job of installing my siding, soffit and fascia! They stayed for almost 13 hours to complete the work. Downside...they were Hispanic (not that this was an issue) and broke my hydrangeas, a lawn ornament, and urinated in my driveway! I fully understand having to relieve oneself, but the company should at least provide facilities for the workers! Five-gallon buckets with toilet seats are available for on-site use if the company would spend $50. There is no need to urinate in the dumpster which then drains onto my property!!! My God, this is disgusting! read more

PJ Fitzpatrick - Urine running from the dumpster. - Roofing Near Me - New Castle, Delaware

Each step of our tub to shower renovation was conducted with courtesy and professionalism. Kevin and his installation crew were outstanding in their communication and attention to detail throughout the process. Very pleased with final product. Julia L. read more

My husband and I decided to replace our tub with a shower. Our consultation was very informative. Fast forward to the install. AJ and his team literally just left me with a beautiful shower! He and his crew were extremely respectful of our home (and my 14 year old dog). They explained everything that they were doing, and cleaned up beautifully after the shower was completed. These young men were an absolute pleasure! It was one of our hottest days so far, and they just kept working. Great work ethic all around! I truly hope they are acknowledged by management for their excellent customer service. read more

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The sales team were very professional and day of installation looked good even though they rescheduled us without letting me know the first arrangement was not happening. I was told it was because of a calendar issue. However, a few days after installation we were in our back yard and started finding nails. Then we looked all around the house and found new and old nails, warped pieces of metal. Very disappointing. The gutters looked good but the clean up was horrendous. I won't be surprised if I found out I have a flat tire shortly or end up with a nail in my foot when Spring time rolls around. I have attached a picture of every nail I found thus far. read more

PJ Fitzpatrick - Nails and warped sharp metal - Roofing Near Me - New Castle, Delaware

I had them come for estimate for front door they quoted 16,000 for a door then I been having harassment Since then I ask them to stop calling us they call my house phone four times a day and cell phone I begged them to stop calling us, we are on the do not call list I would never ever recommen them , I text them to send messages to owner nothing done read more

Costco referred us the PJ Fitzpatrick. They called to schedule unfortunately, we had conflicting obligations. I had to reschedule the first time. A few days before our rescheduled appointment, they called and said they had conflicting appointments. And asked me to reschedule so we did. About a hour before our new appointment time (5PM) and said that the representative was an hour and a half away and could not get to us until 7 PM. So disappointing, and as of today almost one week later, no follow-up. Nor did I receive an apology for the inconvenience. read more

Long story short: Installation great. Follow up: Nonexistent. BE SURE YOU KNOW WHO YOUR DEALING WITH THIS OUTFIT IS NOT WHO YOU THINK THEY ARE Trusted? Huh, I've never heard of PJ Fitzpatrick, ! I thought I was dealing with a *local* company "Mr. Fix It' in CENTRAL VIRGINIA -- whose office is 10 minutes away! The installation of the (very expensive) bathroom fixtures . . . shower in one bathroom, tub & shower in another, went just fine. Two years later, quite out of the blue, in the main bath the water is trickling out with seemingly no pressure and I need: 1. A plumber and 2. To ask if it's under warranty --- I don't want to just call anyone for convenience and risk butchering the very expensive fixtures. Did I mention this was a very expensive job? I called they answered right away, they had no record of my or my husbands phone number. I got "Switched" to service . . . and left on hold. I called again, same thing. Left message "please call (phone number)" NO FOLLOW UP. Time to hit up the neighbors for a LOCAL and RELIABLE PLUMBER. read more

Ryan who came out here today was very rude. He was acting like he didn't have time for me and his attitude was terrible. If you hate your job that much go work somewhere else. Also when you call this company the receptionists are clueless. Never again. read more

We were interested in a Jacuzzi shower replacement. This firm is the local rep apparently. Slick salesman came to the house and measured our quite standard 48" acrylic shower insert. We saw the national ads... no installation cost, no payment or interest for a year. For them, none of this came up. The quote was $23,000+ with nothing itemized. Insulting. Never call on this firm to do anything. read more

The best way to describe PJ Fitzpatrick is a classic bait and switch. The sales person will say everything right, assuring quality and cleanliness. Then the work begins, including essential details about the project not being shared with the team resulting in an extra week of work being done at your house. In addition to cleaning nails and cigarette butts around your property for days after they leave. This crew also left a 10 foot piece of metal gutter unsecured and dangling in the wind from my 2nd floor over my back door at the end of the first day. Then they will offer you a fraction of the total price in order to assure you do not tell anyone else about your experience. There are far too many more roofing companies out there to bother with PJ Fitzpatrick. read more

PJ Fitzpatrick - Roofing Near Me - New Castle, Delaware

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This company provided an appraisal of $68,370 to complete the siding, fascia, and gutters on my home. The company informed me that in order to install vertical siding, they would need to install nailers. I questioned the necessity of the nailers because my home already had T1-11 wood siding, which I believed could serve as the nailer. The company informed me that they could not use the existing wood siding and they further explained that installing nailers would require packing out the windows to account for the additional thickness. Based on this explanation of the additional work required, I agreed to move forward with the project at a cost of $68,370. However, when the project was completed, they did not install nailers and instead used my existing wood siding. Despite not performing the additional work that was the basis for the price, they are still requiring me to pay the full $68,370. I only agreed to the cost based on the additional work they claimed was necessary. Since that work was not performed, I believe the total price should be adjusted accordingly. When they quoted me for the gutters, I informed them that I just had the gutters replaced 5 years ago and had oversized gutters installed. They stated that they would replace the gutters with the exact same size just in the color to match my new siding. However, they installed smaller gutter and their gutter system does not function properly, like the ones they replaced did. When it rains, water flows over the guards instead of through the gutter system which causes the water to drain directly into my yard. This has resulted the water to enter my basement. In addition, the fascia they installed is visibly wavy and warped. The workmanship is poor, and the finished product is unacceptable. The fascia significantly takes away from the appearance and quality of my home. I was able to speak to the salesperson that I initially worked with. He mentioned that our initial meeting -- when he provided the quote -- was recorded. He stated that he reviewed the recording to determine whether nailers or oversized gutters were discussed. He claims that there was no mention of nailers or oversized gutters in that conversation. However, I clearly recall discussing the use of my existing T1-11 siding as a potential nailer and informing him that my home has oversized gutters. I was never made aware that the meeting was being recorded. If the conversation was in fact recorded, I believe I should have access to that recording. Despite my request, the company has refused to provide a copy. The customer service I have experienced with this company has been extremely frustrating and unprofessional. In order to reach the salesperson who originally quoted my project, I have to contact the superintendent who handled the job and ask him to relay a message. There is no direct line of communication. I am also unable to reply directly to the emails they send, which further limits communication. Each time the salesperson contacts me, he calls my landline despite my repeated requests that he contact me on my cell phone. If I am not home, I cannot return his call because he does not provide a direct phone number. As a result, I am forced to contact the superintendent again and repeat the process. Despite multiple requests, he has yet to call me on my cell phone as instructed and there has been no resolution to my concerns read more

Worst decision we ever made. Severe lack of project management. Team of installers arrived at 7am without materials. materials arrived, the team threw all old materials in the yard and driveway. Food, bottles, nails, insulation were thrown and not cleaned up. A pile of junk is still sitting in our driveway. the team took 12 hours to complete step 1, blocked our doors and driveway without any project manager on site to communicate the project timeline and clean up. our siding is damaged and has marks from ladders. materials were dragged and damaged our front porch. today 1 guy showed up and is hanging off our roof trying to finish himself. DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY FOR ANY OUTSIDE WORK. read more

I took off from my job for the work to be done to my gutters. I scheduled P J Fitzpatrick two weeks in advance for the job. On the day of the appointment, they did not show up for the appointment. I will never use this company again. read more

I needed about 12 feet of 1" X 6" fascia covering after wind storm last year and was linked up with PJ's. I arranged for a "paid" estimate, creditable to the total cost. The "Professional" showed up in company truck, spent no more than 5 minutes on the ground, stated he had to go to the truck to complete the estimate and got in the truck. About 15 minutes later he gives me the estimate which was $750, which I turned down. He then charges me $75 for the estimate which I paid just to get him off my porch. This month, June, 2025 I purchased materials for $129 incl shipment from Illinois and after I determined I could not do the work myself I contacted a roofing company. The man said $125 the work was done in less than 30 minutes. So it looks to me that these PJ Fitzpatrick people combine an outrageous estimate fee $75, combine it with a more outrageous estimate estimate $750 and just drive around collecting estimate fees. By the way when PJ gave me the estimate he also told me that he did not have a tools on the truck so the work would need to be scheduled later. read more

FJ Fitzpatrick is a corporatized impersonal bureaucratic time waste with individuals unqualified to perform in the business world. Everyone we dealt with had zero manners, zero professionalism, and the entitled attitude that they were calling the shots and running the show like it would be my privilege to HIRE them and pay them to work for me! Absolutely absurd! First, they tried to demand that both homeowners be present during a gutter quote! A QUOTE FOR GUTTERS! Okay, this is the least expensive thing I am contracting out and probably the most unimportant job of all the contractors required to build a home. This is like a clipper magazine coupon job! The most costly this work could possibly be is a fraction of any other job I need on my home. When you're dealing with any American family they are BUSY! You're lucky to get one homeowner's time. We told them forget it and magically they were able to send someone to meet just one homeowner. Any other gutter place we called asked for exterior photos to be texted and gave a quote on that. No bs personal meeting with BOTH HOMEOWNERS required. So stupid. Sorry this place has clearly had lawsuits in their past but all the more reason NOT to ever hire them! But my husband didn't listen to me that this place is a clown show, and scheduled a quote just to have another comp reference. The day of scheduled appointment they texted that they were showing up at 11:30am despite our appointment at 1pm. Sent text claiming they were 3 min away for 30minutes--WHO DOES THIS??? Waited for this no-show lie at a completely unscheduled time, 2.5h before they were due!!! Called their corporatized call room and spoke to fake-bubbly Amber who refused to acknowledge their mistake and how obnoxious it was. No apologies of course! Acted like a mean robot! Rudely asked if we wanted to reschedule? Hell no! Terrible waste of time with unprofessional thugs! This place is seriously out of touch with reality and quite insulting to the person contemplating hiring them. I would never let such rude unprofessional people touch my property. read more

Which I could rate my experience a zero. We needed weather stripping replaced where 3 sliding doors close into their jams. So approximately 30 feet of weather stripping and about 60 minutes of work. Tech took a look and then said he was going to his truck to write up an estimate. Gone for at least 20 minutes. Came back and showed me an estimate of $1500, which I balked at. He then immediately said that he could knock "one number off that estimate" and do the job for $500. PJ Fitzpatrick, if your numbers are that arbitrary, I'm not working with you! Which is what I told the tech. 0/10 would not recommend. read more

The installers were absolutely sloppy and had body odor. The caulking was done very unprofessionally and they got more caulking on the floor than where it was supposed to go. They forgot to bring the doors and a 3rd shelf. That was last Wednesday, May 14, 25. No one has contacted me, so I contacted them. They stated shower door won't be in until Friday May 30, 2025. So they won't be installed until June. Totally unhappy!!!! Would never have hired them had I known what was to unfold! Save yourself the aggravation and go w a better rated shower company. read more

Way overpriced. Compare possibilities before committing. They are fine for some but get multiple bids from different companies big and small. read more

One of my windows stopped staying up on its own because both metal balances broke. I could see the problem but couldn't figure out how to fix it myself. After being ghosted by a smaller company that I first set up an appointment with, I decided to call PJ Fitz. I contacted them on a Tuesday afternoon and by Thursday morning Brad Carroll showed up and instantly diagnosed the issue. He even explained the strategy for repair, which I never would have figured out on my own. While Brad did everything he was supposed to in order to get the necessary parts, there was a bit of confusion because they were "delivered to the wrong office" and it took a couple of follow-up calls from me for the staff to realize what happened. I ended up waiting about a week and a half longer than necessary because the items were sitting in an envelope and no one thought to figure out what they were for. If I hadn't been persistent in my follow-up, I may still be waiting for a call from them telling me my parts arrived! At any rate, once that was all sorted out Brad came back with Ernie K. to finish the fix. They were here for about a half hour and when they left my window was in perfect working order. Cost: 3 stars Communication from central office: 2.5 stars Brad and Ernie: 5 stars read more

We had a very expensive shower put in and are now having issues with the installation and have the smell of sewage coming up through the drain. We have left numerous messages and nobody ever returns our calls. You are put on hold for 10-minutes and then a message comes on saying they will get back to you and they never do. We are feeling scammed at this point. read more

They are professional and knowledgeable. After their presentation they gave me an extremely high estimate and I politely declined and they kept calling me, texting and emailing me for a few weeks. Had to block them it was a very disturbing experience read more

PJ Fitzpatrick replaced 9 of my house windows on Friday. The installers did a good job and I have no complaints about that part. The next day, a Saturday, I discovered they had left 3 large filled contractor trash bags, unfastened, along with a large number of the old removed windows with assorted metal strips, screens and debris stacked up on the driveway against the garage. Partially blocked the entrance to my garage and the entrance to my neighbor's garage. (Our houses have a common garage wall and share the driveway.) My immediate call to Fitzpatrick resulted only in the statement that they couldn't pick up their trash until Monday. This is in violation of their contract that says the installers would clean up and remove all debris from the premises when work is completed. No mention that they'd do it 3 days later. It is now raining and all of bags now also contain rain. Also, the named Project Lead only showed up toward the end of the installation to ask me how I wanted to pay the balance, and then left. He should have been here at the end to see if everything was as it should be. If anyone has work done by Fitzpatrick I recommend withhold paying in full until you and the project lead or supervisor inspects that they've met all their obligations. read more

I had a great experience with PJ Fitzpatrick in Jan 2024. Replace my shower/tub to a shower on 2nd floor. Replace the main bathroom with a new shower/tub. New backdoor replaced. And new gutters. No complaints. They also did a wonderful job at my sister condo with a new shower/tub and new shower. Thank you PJF. read more

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They don't leave you alone after telling them that you're not interested. They keep harassing you If they continue it may be necessary to report them. read more

Please think twice before using this company. I cancelled a contract within two days of signing paperwork. My downpayment of $2000.00 has still not been returned since mid July. I have called many of times and leave messages. Also contacted the sales rep I dealt with and he definitely has been programed to lie. But Marko did text saying he does not know why my money has not been returned yet. Such a large company but only have a few numbers and nobody will give you a direct number to a department . They just tell you the request for refund will be sent to review. Heard that for weeks now. No manager or anyone will call you back. Check out FB reviews and other reviews. Please don't trust this company. My next step is driving to one of their locations , getting my lawyer to contact them plus contacting the BBB. read more

Technician was knowledgeable and polite, but did not have the needed replacement part and could not locate it. He told us that if we found it, he would come back and install it. I did just that and have now put five calls into the company to schedule the return visit. Each time, I was assured that someone would call back and that my issue was being elevated. Thereafter, crickets! If you enjoy banging your head against a wall, this company is for you. read more

Would have gave less stars if I could have. Worst contracting company we ever had to deal with. Shower remodel was left unfinished with broken floor tiles and grouting to be done. Was told to find another contractor to finish and file a claim with them. Horrible to get a hold of anyone to get a call back. Nothing the salesman promised seemed to work out. A $16,000. Shower I'm finishing myself. They have great salesmen but that's where the quality ends. STAY AWAY read more