Here's a list of our emails. I think I was being reasonable. Jim does not like to think too hard on why rules are in place. My question, why have a rule if you can't justify it. Hopefully sensible parents who aren't in love with gender based U8 rules are hesitant to sign up their kids at this place.
From: Indoor Soccer Arenas 2000 (isa2000@letsplaysoccer.com)
Date: Friday, November 10, 2017 at 7:44 PM
To: Jason Richards (jrichards@mypescpe.com)
Subject: U8's
Hello Jason,
We do U6 coed but we do boys and girls in the U8s and above.
A boy's team can have up to 2 girls on the roster
Jim
On Nov 16, 2017 9:43 AM, "Jason Richards" wrote:
Hey Jim,
Thanks for the response. How many kids are typically on a U8 roster for indoor? Is it usually 8 players or 10. Do they play 4 on 4? Currently my team has 3 girls. Would that be acceptable to you to have them play in the boys division?
Thanks,
Jason Richards
From: Indoor Soccer Arenas 2000
Date: Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 9:58 AM
To: Jason Richards
Subject: Re: U8's
U8s play 5v5 plus a keeper. It is probably best to have 9 or 10 players. We let 2 girls play on a boys team
Jim
On Nov 16, 2017 10:12 AM, "Jason Richards" wrote:
Perfect. I would like to not have to break my team up. I see you allow 2 girls. Would a third be acceptable?
--Jason
From: Indoor Soccer Arenas 2000
Date: Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 10:21 AM
To: Jason Richards
Subject: Re: U8's
I am sorry but no. It then would have to be a coed team and have their own league. I have no other teams to play in that league
Sorry
Jim
On Nov 16, 2017 10:30 AM, "Jason Richards" wrote:
Just curious why 3 triggers a coed league but 2 does not?
--Jason
From: Indoor Soccer Arenas 2000
Date: Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 10:48 AM
To: Jason Richards
Subject: Re: U8's
Because then it could be 3 girls and 3 guys on the field at once. We do U6 as coed but ince they move to U8 it is a boy's or girl's league.
Jim
On Nov 16, 2017 10:52 AM, "Jason Richards" wrote:
Not to keep harping on the subject, but what does it mean to have 3 girls on the field with 3 boys? Is that a bad thing? Does it affect the quality of the game? I understand this is your league's rule? My question is why? What is it based on? Is it a safety concern?
Thanks,
Jason
From: Indoor Soccer Arenas 2000
Date: Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 10:56 AM
To: Jason Richards
Subject: Re: U8's
Then it is coed.
On Nov 16, 2017 11:03 AM, "Jason Richards" wrote:
Technically it's co-ed with 2 girls. Even with one girl, it's still co-ed. My question is why the third girl trips the equation into "too" co-ed. A team that is 6 boys and 3 girls should not upset the other team, even if all three girls (who by the way are the better players) are on the field at the same time? I guess I'm not sure as to the 2 girl cutoff. It seems arbitrary, so I wonder what the reason for it is.
From: Indoor Soccer Arenas 2000
Date: Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 12:24 PM
To: Jason Richards
Subject: Re: U8's
I think we should change the rules, no girls on boys teams and no boys on girls teams. The girls can play in the girls league and boys can play on boys teams.
Thanks that makes it easier so no one will ask for exceptions
Jim
On Nov 16, 2017 12:31 PM, "Jason Richards" wrote:
You can certainly do so. Or just have rules that are easily explainable. My question is what is inherently different about two 6 year old girls playing with six boys that is not acceptable when it's three 6 year old girls playing with 5 boys.
So, are you saying no to the exception? If so, may I ask what the reason is? Does it affect the U8 gambling that goes on? Is the league filled with male chauvanists that feel like "weak" girls bring down the typically stellar level of play that most 6 and 7 year olds engage in?
Thanks,
Jason
From: Indoor Soccer Arenas 2000
Date: Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 12:42 PM
To: Jason Richards
Subject: Re: U8's
The only exception is that teams already that are playing can keeping. New teams can not have girls on boys teams and no boys on girls teams
Jim
OK. Well, I encourage you to really think about the rule. It seems like it was implemented with no real thought. Not your fault, I'm sure. Thanks for the consideration. We wanted to play in your league, but you can understand why I wouldn't want to break up a team because of gender based rules that are arbitrary. If you reconsider, please let me know.
-Jason read more