What an awful and utterly trash customer service. And I'm in this field for a living So trying to purchase 3 tickets to an event, and receieve a unable to process payment, please try a different card. So we did Between 3 of us we tried 5 cards across 3 different people We tried 2 phones, a tablet and a desktop computer We tried PayPal and venmo We tried different login accounts to frontgate All receive the same error. Each of us called our banks... No pending or declined charges Out of ideas, we call the FrontGate customer service. We explain all the steps we went through For the next 20 minutes we get asked the same questions we just told them. Did you try a different card/call bank/ different device/try venmo Out of options. They then proceeded to gaslight us and tell us it was on our end and need to call our bank It's like they got to the end of their troubleshooting sheet and if all fails send them to bank. They refused to escalate this to tech to review or to management They refused to provide a complaints line or contact information Then I come online to see them flamed constantly by others. What a garbage company What a disgrace to be Peter Norosky, vice president of customer service. Massive company owns almost a monopoly on this industry (live Nation owns this) and can't even have a working payment portal or a decent customer service. Il avoid using them at all costs from here on out read more

Ok, I was terrified having come here and read the reviews but I had a good experience with customer service. My event sent our wristbands via USPS with tracking and the zip code was wrong so the package was returned to sender. I called their customer service line and it was answered by a real person within 2 rings. She was able to help me with an alternate mode of wristband pickup via will call. Though, I have not dealt with Will Call yet, I'm very satisfied that it was seemingly simple to get my issue taken care of. read more

I purchased a VIP ticket to Future Ruins for $495.00 - the event was cancelled and ever since the announcement communication from Front Gate has been non-existent. I am on the phone with customer service now and a month after the cancellation she's just giving me vague answers telling me to call another time. I will never buy a ticket through Front Gate again. Period. read more

Paid $400 plus parking and hotel for a concert with tickets from front gate tickets were never digitally downloaded and when we got to the concert, they wouldn't even talk to us After an hour on the phone with Front Gate we did get our tickets read more

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away plan for EDC. Half way through my 12 month contract they canceled my account and kept $136 of my hard earned money. I was barely late one month and they decided to cancel my account and keep a cancellation fee plus some BS processing fee. Companies are allowed to take advantage if customers due to contract. I contacted them stating I wanted to keep my account. That did not give a damn and spewed out their bs "policy.!" Legal contracts are ALWAYS in the favor of the person or company executing them. They are never in favor of he customer. I've learned my lesson to not enter any contracts or spend money unless it is a necessity like a car or housing. Companies continue to take advantage of people as now the economy keeps falling due to lack of trust in greedy companies & corporations. DONT USE THIS COMPANY! Pay for it in cash or credit. read more

I purchased tickets for the Honeyland Food and Music Festival held in Sugar Land, Texas, on the weekend of November 11th and 12th in July of 2023. Front Gate Tickets (FGT) originally billed this as a food and music festival, and over a period of 3 months, the festival switched from food and music to a music festival with samplings of food. FGT began to switch out what was included in the tickets we purchased. A $50 food credit was omitted in one email we were sent even though it was initially included in my VIP ticket price. Additionally, we were given the option at time of purchase to have tickets shipped to us for $11. FGT refunded the shipping fees without indicating that we would now have to pick up our tickets at will-call locations. It wasn't until I sent an email asking what the refund was for and how tickets would be received that they informed me of the change. FGT decided not to ship tickets, forcing people to pick them up at a will call in Houston, Texas. Because we live in San Antonio, we decided to drive to a specific location, mainly the Chifley Hotel in Houston, Texas, to pick up our tickets. This decision felt inevitable to avoid long lines at the event itself, which we witnessed once we arrived at the festival. FGT failed to post the schedule of events, including food presentations, music performances, and parking instructions, until 3 days before the event. On the day of the event, in the very early morning hours, around 12:30 or 1:00 in the morning of November 11th, FGT posted a social media post on Instagram stating that VIP parking was no longer available and that people who purchased VIP parking through their VIP passes would have to park in a parking lot and take a shuttle to the event. FGT never sent an email about the parking situation. As a result, there were massive crowds of people attempting to park and catch shuttles to the event, or they were left with the option as we were to walk back to our vehicles to leave the event. Once we arrived at the event, the promised VIP entrance and VIP Fast Lanes were closed off. These entrances were included in the VIP package that I purchased, and because they were closed off, we had to wait in a GA or general admission line even though we paid to have the upgraded faster access through the VIP entrances. Once inside the festival, we attempted to access a General Admission Plus area included in our VIP package. When I attempted to scan my wristband to enter this area, an employee of front gate tickets physically restrained me from doing so. When I showed her that my ticket included GA Plus lounge access, she said FGT told her to deny access to anyone but GA+ pass holders. Attempts by other people to show them that we were allowed to enter based on the fact that we were VIP pass holders were ignored or shut down by this employee. I took a video of the employee telling me we would not be allowed access to this area and that FGT decided to prevent access to VIP pass holders. When we attempted to use our merchandise credit for $25, the staff member at the booth told us that to use the card, we had to spend at least $50. This "rule" was a bait and switch on the part of FGT because none of the disclaimers or terms of service indicated that to use the merchandise credit, we would have to spend a minimum amount. My sole purpose for purchasing the tickets was because I am a food writer and chef, and my main interest was attending the festival's food portion. Besides the switch from "Food and Music Festival" to a music festival, no food samples were available, as with most food festivals. All the food had to be purchased, and the wait time to get food from these vendors exceeded one and a half hours. Besides the fact that there were extremely long lines, there was not enough food for the attendees, so despite waiting in long lines for hours, we were turned away twice because the vendor did not have any more food available. As a result, we went to a food festival expecting to be able to sample different types of food and didn't eat anything at all. Additionally, there was a severe lack of lighting on the festival grounds, which resulted in people not being able to see where they were going while walking on a muddy field. The bathrooms were not lit due to a lack of lighting on the festival grounds, rendering them useless. The wait for shuttles back to the parking lot where we were forced to park exceeded 2 hours. I have a video of a virtually empty parking lot within yards of the main entrance where we entered the festival. This parking lot could have been used for a VIP parking lot. I later discovered that the VIP parking lot was a cement parking lot, so the weather did not affect it, which is the reason for the closure, according to FGT. This company is shady and a total money grab. I don't recommend them. read more

If I could leave 0 stars I would! Don't trust this company, they are scammers, they didn't ship my tickets and wouldn't refund the shipping cost because it's now for "other services" clowns!! read more

Terrible delivery system for tickets. Customer service agents are not helpful, although I do not blame them. An awful company to deal with.

Web interface entry from client-event page forces acct creation within the 'purchase completion limit'. Only, their only-purpose UI/UX has bugs (for a core function of the provider), with form failures (forced password creation rejected though precise entries on multiple tries by a ...security expert), and no specifics as to why. The expletive-laden pw on attempt 7 worked ;-), only to proceed to reach a "CC error" (uh, no, not a single one). Separately, phone number isn't err'd nor accepted with "-". Finally get to 'Submit' (random success allowed?), & it reports "Order has expired, please contact support!" (with no direct path thereto, and "try 1 of 3", which I was obliged to re-attempt even with re-entries of all, never to succeed (per response). Apparently, you only get 3 minutes for a retry? Really, I was just playing in an involuntary doom-loop game... Got the "Order has expired" response each time with re-type of all entries in less then a minute... I reluctantly (ha ha) quit at this point and decided not to attend the event after all, though had been prepared and started process at precise opening of the "presale" window. Wanted digital delivery, BTW, and I otherwise use a PO Box as matter of course; nonetheless, this Web interface was under-designed and under-tested, as a mainstream function of the provider. You may reach this site by link from an event page, not knowing this ticket provider in advance, upon selecting 'get ticket'. At process entry, it gives you 8 minutes, and time limits are always applied in these cases to limit lockup and sale conflicts while also attempting to "sell out" while looking like it is "fair". Account creation for some concern that you DO NOT NEED a relationship with, buried within that time window, is BS. At least, they should be able to provide a form entry interface that makes sense and isn't completely buggy (or maybe all their prior services were at an agent's window ;-), and this is their first Online pony show). Get your act together or get out of the business. We're just retired folk looking to step out for a good time! Two Step Inn was our objective, assuming they actually DID adequately reduce the total tickets sold this year (as advertised) so there wouldn't be standing room only across three stages (as happened in a prior year). read more

I was not smart and used my PO Box address for shipping my VIP EDC ticket because I was in the process of moving. Well, UPS can't deliver to PO Boxes and I panicked. Reached out to EDC support and they graciously shipped my wristband + box to my new address. I am very grateful that the Front Gate team took care of me. I got it in time for EDC, this Tuesday. I'm just really grateful that even with hundreds of attendees, the logistics team is working around the clock to ensure the stragglers and un-smart folks (like me) can still make it to the festivities. Thank you so much for all of your help and making my 2nd EDC a dream come true. read more

How did they even get half a star over the lowest possible rating? There is no customer service whatsoever. Here I am at Rolling Loud California in line three hours to resolve an issue with my fully paid ticket, meanwhile the show goes on without me or several thousand other people in line with me. There are less than a dozen employees at costumer service / will call. If they are selling 60,000 tickets and collecting $100 "service fee" for each, that is $6,000,000!!!! This is a scam fee, not a service fee. The federal government needs to step in and regulate this. Oh, and maybe they could pay to clean the porta-potties, too.... read more

Front Gate Tickets - Toilet overflowing at customer service line, Rolling Loud California. - Ticket Sales Near Me - Austin, Texas

Do not work there I did everything they asked of me even followed the 10000 rules they have for the temps. They use u and lie to you about how long they will keep you. They lay you off just cause they like to bring new ppl in every other week then they will lay them off and bring new ppl in it's a cycle they like to run. They only like their kind you literally have to be white and gay for them to accept you. Dont work for them they will lay you off without any heads up no matter how good of a worker u are and that will put you in a bad position struggling to pay rent without a job. They are very very very judgemental ppl read more

Bought tickets for Rock The Country - Bloomingdale Ga and was on a layaway plan. I had a presale code that let me pay 2.50 per ticket and then monthly for two or three months the remaining owed would be taken out of my account. I did this via Venmo so it would come out of my one account that I rarely used. In doing so I wasn't able to add the ticket insurance that I always do add. Well I got a notice from Venmo my account was frozen because front gate pulled out the full amount. I knew I didnt have this in that account that's why I did the layaway plan. So I had to scurry to get money into the account (aka borrow it). Had I know I would have been screwed over this way I would have paid with my other account and bought the ticket insurance which I end up needing because my daughter's graduation is on the Friday. So having been forced to borrow money because of their error, not being able to get the ticket insurance and not being able to switch it to two one day passes or two Saturday general admission plus(so they don't lose money but I can still either give the Friday ticket to someone or have a better seat Saturday) they won't work with me. They direct you to rock the country people who refer you back to front gate. It has been a constant run around. Worst part is I have been a customer of theirs from the past. I won't be again. They have no customer loyalty or try to make things right. read more

Currently filing a lawsuit against this company. It's unfortunate most festivals are sold through this website, it's even more unfortunate what a SCAM this company is. They aren't BBB accredited (not that it matters, but it's certainly makes sense based on how much they screw you over) After years of purchasing and countless issues, I rather pay extra to purchase event tickets through stub hub or Ticketmaster where issues are actually fixed and the consumers are first. If you can't purchase your ticket in full price you better check your emails every month on a layaway plan because more than half the time they have "payment processing issues" (even with the same card and plenty of money in your account)... what this really means is they don't find an alternative payment methods you forfeit your ticket and everything you've paid so far. Hasn't happened to be because I always stay on top of them. Recently, I purchased a hard summer 2 day ticket paid full price and a month prior to the event listed my ticket for resale through them. My ticket sold two weeks before the event and I was told I will receive payment after the event. So two weeks after the event I still didn't receive my payment. It's now 3 months later, I've sent 15+ emails and screenshots to customer service representatives that have all directed me to different people who direct me to someone else, I opened a claim with my bank that Front gate told them they will give me my money back if my bank closed my claim (really sus), like I said I still haven't received my money for an event in July. NONE OF THERE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPS ACTUALLY CAN PROVIDE HELP. Forget about calling them to work it out they don't even have a phone number. read more

Horrible company and people. I had a family wedding of our niece and tried to get a refund with 7 months notice. They had ZERO compassion for our situation and basically said too bad your loss. Zero company values and compassion. RUN from this horrible company. read more

Frankly, if an artist you like is using Front Gate Tickets it likely means they don't like their fans very much. FGT is an outwardly hostile company that is notoriously litegious. Want a refund or post something negative about their operations? Prepare to be sued or to have your tickets canceld without any notice. Truly an awful service provider that will steal your money and mock you when you ask for it back. read more

will never use again! no real customer support, i have learned that the responses are automated and the emails are generated using key words. cole is the writer of most emails if not all i am reporting to bbb and will take further we paid 350 per tix to fool in love my paid 750 per tix to then see a significant price drop. it is not fair to those who paid full price. since customer service seems to automated it is not very customer service like read more

Absolute garbage customer service. I purchased a very expensive vip ticket package with insurance and unfortubately had sickness that would keep me from attending. I have emailed multiple times over the course of 18 months and never even recieved anything more than an auto response. Absolutely a garbage company to deal with. read more

The worst customer service ever experienced. It's a call center not even connected to Front Gate who ships the tickets. Absolutely terrible experience. I can't believe festivals use them. read more

Two days from the event, and my digital parking pass has not been emailed to me, despite my order confirmation stating the digital passes would be emailed 7-10 days before the event. Three days before my event, I called Front Gate Tickets support line, where I was told the passes would arrive by email 24-48 hours in advance of my event. At 48 hours, I email the support mailbox provided on my order, and my email bounces back as undeliverable: order-support@fgtcustomerservice.com : host fgtcustomerservice-com.mail.protection.outlook.com[52.101.42.4] said: 550 5.4.1 Recipient address rejected: Access denied. Unacceptable. This leaves me in the position of having to find alternative transport to the event as a back-up. These tickets were a Christmas gift to someone else, and it has been such a poor experience with this scammy outfit. read more

customer service is a joke. they didn't even read what I said or look into a single issue. sent copied and pasted messages that didn't pertain to my issue and then refused to help me. the supervisor did was not even apologetic. read more

They canceled my WWWY fest tickets for no fucking reason, and kept saying there was nothing they can do. I paid ahead, and I have my bank statements and my receipts. No notice or email was sent to me, just an automatic refund. I want my God damn tickets back. read more

Can't get ahold of them for the life of me. I've been trying since February. They state they offer waitlisted people 30 days once waitlist has been approved to back out of the transaction. I got an email saying I got tickets and 24 hours later got charged on my card. Can't access via email, can't get ahold of a rep. Their email and phones don't work. read more

They finally made good and refunded my money, but after well over 100 different communications (literally). That doesn't include the times I tried to call them but there was no answer (including one call I made with Chase Visa on the phone with me!). I upgraded this to 2 stars only because they did finally come through, but no customer service function should be this difficult or take this long (more than 5 months). read more

This review is in reference to the Lost Lands Music Festival event happening in just under a week. (I FINALLY just got my EMAILED tickets for this event yesterday). Let me just start by saying that it would figure that this company has 2 stars with 80+ ratings. Very fitting. Avoid buying tickets through this company at ALL costs. Their customer service is absolutely atrocious. They NEVER respond to emails OR Facebook messages, and will hang up on you if you call. They also will just flat out lie to you when you finally do get in touch with them. I have an extremely time sensitive issue that I have emailed them about with no response at least 5 times. I bought tickets for a couple of friends, and needed to have the tickets put in their name before the festival. In the beginning, the representative "Yani" told me that I would not need to change the names on the tickets as the ticket scanners will just be scanning to look for valid tickets, and not matching up names to tickets. Cool. Problem solved. Then, 4 days later they send out an automated email stating the absolute complete opposite. Of course, I emailed again for an explanation of why I was lied to. Completely regret ever giving this company my money in the first place. And still waiting on that explanation... Avoid!!! 0 stars. read more

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Wish I could choose 0 stars. $710 down the drain. Customer service is non-existent. Don't honor their own refund policy. I will NEVER purchase tickets for any event run by Front Gate Tickets again. Paid $710 for 4 tickets to the 2021 Ohana Festival. We were unable to attend due to COVID-19 exposure, and contacted them ahead of time to request a refund. The festival website clearly states that refunds would be issued for positive COVID tests and exposures. There is absolutely NO way to reach them. The two phone numbers they plaster all over the place are "no longer in service" and it's impossible to reach anyone via email. My credit card company won't open a dispute because the original purchase was more than 60 days ago. So $710 down the drain. Unfortunately, it looks like there are plenty of people in similar situations. There has to be a way to take legal action. Anyone interested in a class action suit against them? read more

Everyone has issues arise where they can't make it to a show at some point. This is apparently why they have the ticket protection, right? Wrong. Even when trying to utilize this feature that costs extra, their support is often inaccessible or unresponsive. This happened to my partner not too long ago when she paid the extra money $60 total for the ticket reimbursement and attempted to get a refund a few days before the event. It wasn't until a full week later that Front Gate responded, by which point the event had already occurred and they would not honor the reimbursement. Another, more recent scenario I experienced, was that after purchasing tickets, I found out that there were already plans for the very weekend said event was to take place. Within 10 hours of purchasing the tickets, I submitted a refund request, which should be well within any reasonable window, right? Wrong. It took over two days to get a response from Front Gate support and they said my purchase was outside the refund window. You think??? The worst part is that there isn't an option for purchasers to cancel their tickets on their own and they're beholden to the efforts of FG's support staff, who are probably overwhelmed with requests thanks to the flawed service model. Order Timeline Purchased: 27 Mar 22 - 23:52 PDT Refund Request Submitted: 28 Mar 22 - 9:58 PDT Your Response: 30 Mar 22 - 12:47 PDT Since Front Gate entered the fray some years ago, at least in its current form, the experience has never improved, and it's very, very unfortunate they're still so widely utilized. read more

After 5 requests over 5 weeks to cancel my layaway plan, with no response, my layaway plan became fully paid off. Only after my layaway plan was paid off, did I finally get my first response from Font Gate. Only for them to tell me they coudn't help me because the layaway plan was already complete and I would have to just re-sell the ticket. They also kept copying and pasting the same responses to me until I called them out on it. Front Gate shuts down their phone line and has poor email customer service support. Incredibly disappointing and shameful. read more

I had to cancel my layaway plan. I paid my $10 deposit and my first month payment. Upon request to cancel, they're taking $39 in fees so I am not getting a refund at all. Complete crooks! 0/10, would not recommend read more

Horrible service. Costumer service doesn't exist. Nobody ever pick up the phone. Nobody reply to emails and messages. Hidden fees. I will never pay another ticket for any kind of event through them. read more

Don't even bother contacting support if you have an issue. Also expect $250-$300 USD "service fees" on top of the normal ticket price. Also just because you have a ticket added to cart, doesn't mean that you can move on to your payment information and check it out. Watched the 10 minute timer count down and the cart expired before the payment information section loaded. Support's response was not helpful, just suggesting basic troubleshooting information like clearing your cookies and trying a different browser. I did do this but it does not fix the fact that I missed the opportunity with a time sensitive purchase. read more

Received notification of tickets being shipping via UPS 2nd Day Air on April 26th. Did not receive package on the 28th of April and when I tracked it, there is no shipment history at all. Upon contacting UPS, they advised that they have never received the package from the sender. Now I can't get a hold of a live person and am out $871. I will be disputing with my credit card company to receive a refund that way since these reviews aren't very promising of Front Gate Tickets! read more

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Too bad I can't give them negative stars. Horrible customer service. Read previous reviews as they all state my same sentiments. They have robots responding to emails with the same template messages. Their phone lines do not exist. They are a scam. Do not bother purchasing from them!!! I've put in several requests. The first request took TEN days to get a "response." After following their instructions several times and realizing no one EVER picks up the phone, I reached out again only 4 days later and they had closed my request. I had to make a new request and all of a sudden got responses on the same day - however, they were still generic email responses! I WILL submit several requests a day until I am given the opportunity to actually SPEAK to someone to submit my claim! Be ready Front Gate. read more

This company has been completely silent in regards to any customer service the last two months. I have tried contacting them multiple times, others have tried contacting them... radio silence. I advise any company that's in need of a ticketing service to NOT use Front Gate Tickets. There has been zero support, and countless people have been left absolutely helpless despite paying crazy amounts of money for festivals, camping, etc. *** If you are attending an event that utilized Front Gate Tickets, I would highly recommend reaching out directly to the event coordinators (i.e. Insomniac) because you'll at least get some sort of response/iota of customer service. read more

Like most of the other reviews. They have no way to contact them orher than email or a from on their website. They have not responded to mutiple emails and multiple form submissions in the last 4 months. This company has no right being in business if they can't offer customer service in a Timely manner. Can't blame it on covid. They need to either sell to a company that can handle this or the venues and groups need to stop using this despicable company read more

Please don't use this company. They cost me 1000 dollars. I purchased 2 VIP passes for the Lovers and friends event in Vegas this weekend. Due to business/health challanges, i requested my tickets be changed to a PDF so that i could report the expense to my company. Instead the person on the Emailed, WITHOUT BEING ASKED TO, changed my tickets to Will Call an inactivated my bracelets. The person then informed me this was not reversible. The person would not correct her miss step even wehn told my employer was inflexible and is would not be able to recoup my personal expense for a team building work activity. Please dont use this company. They cost me 1000 dollars. read more

Front gate tickets has absolutely terribly customer service. The customer service team is trained to avoid answering questions and will never give you a reference to continue resolution. This is an example of a company that knows they scam customers and train the team to avoid any ability to be held accountable. I do not recommend using this organization. read more

This is the worst customer service ever. You better hope that you do not have a question or need assistance regarding your tickets. Customer Support never helps, they just pass the buck and say wait for the "events" team to call you back! Yea that has not happened in over a week. ACL better find a different ticket/band provider before next year! read more

I don't know who is giving the positive reviews all of a sudden, must be their bad publicity so they are getting workers to give good reviews. BUY TICKETS SOMEWHERE ELSE. The first sign is that you can't talk to a human. I have emailed them 11 times for a refund. I had an emergency appendectomy and sent them the paperwork and I had bought their insurance with the ticket. 3 months later......no response, no refund. read more

Lmao they're a joke. For whatever reason, their phone lines are "temporarily unavailable" due to COVID but okay, so you have to contact them by email if you want to speak to anyone. They take a couple of day to reply back and when they do, it's entirely scripted and they don't listen to your concerns. I put in depth, in multiple emails, what it was that I needed and I promise you I could not have been more detailed. I even bolded, underlined, and italicized words just to get my point across even further. Every time someone would reply, they would all have the same scripted response that never answered the question you asked to begin with. Anyways, I reached out demanding a refund for my EDC Las Vegas tickets because obviously it would be stupid to still follow through with this event in literally 2 months!!!!!! when half a million people need to come together from all over the country to one place. Apparently they're going to have waivers in place saying you assume the risk of getting covid? Disgusting. Lucky for me though, I hadn't finished my layaway plan. I refused to let the last payment process since last year because I didn't want to dish out more money for an event that might not even happen. And due to the freeze on cancelling orders for nonpayment due to COVID, I've been able to maintain my order. The loophole that allowed me to get a refund was the fact that all sales are final on COMPLETED orders. but since my order wasn't technically "complete", they were able to issue the refund based on a "voluntary default in layaway plan" cancellation. So that's cool. Now here comes the frustrating parts. First of all, they emailed me back letting me know I could receive a refund in the way stated above and if i understood these terms, to reply giving authorization and they would go through with the process. In the same email, they said "please note once all payments have been completed on the account, a refund is no longer possible. so be sure to respond ASAP!" Tell me why right before that email, I had another email from them of them trying to process the last payment before I could request the refund!!! They haven't tried to process that payment for MONTHS. And then they tried once they saw I was trying to take advantage of the loophole?? Luckily the card I had on my account is no longer active so it declined the transaction. But still shady af nonetheless!!! Then they told me if I made multiple different forms of payment throughout the layaway plan, that each installment would be processed individually. I told them some of the payment methods used were no longer active. Accounts had been closed, cards had been tossed, I asked them what would happen when some refunds would be sent to closed accounts. No lie, one person said it would "reroute itself to the correct account". HUH???!! Another person said it would get sent back and then a check would be issued from them. ANOTHER said contact my bank and discuss it with them. Why would they know where the money would be. I'm no longer a customer with them. That's the point!! Now all payments have been refunded but they are sporadically all over the place, with no trace of where they're going or where they'll end up. I guess at this point I'll have to wait and see. Never doing business with them AGAIN. read more

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