Synopsis - Mooney and Moses (Overhead Door) charged to install 13" of blown in fiberglass insulation. M&M only installed 8" (40% less) but still charged for 13". M&M will not return phone calls and the salesperson was combative when challenged on their cheat. AVOID AT ALL COSTS
Full in-depth issue below:
Contacted Mooney and Moses (subsidary of Overhead Door) to quote installation of additional insulation to bring us to an R49 or R60. House was built in 1996 and has 12.5" of insulation for an existing R30 ( I found the paperwork stapled into the attic after I inspected M&M insulation install)
M&M sent a salesperson to quote the install in August. She quoted some odd things, such as PSK paper having an R10 value, so we spent a few weeks going back and forth trying to get a cut sheet from the salesperson Kimberly Quinn. We finally got a contact to verify the PSK R value in early September - by this time I had to travel out of town and we tried to reconnect with Kim in the end of September. Weeks go by and I finally call M&M and the original salesperson had quit. M&M wanted to send out another person to requote the install. We agreed and in the middle of October their Salesperson John Smith came out to quote the job. We explained to him our concerns. He figured the area to be ~1,000 and then he sent us a quote the next day. (John nor Kim never did inspect the attic which in hind sight was very odd)
I paid Mooney and Moses $100 down on an $760 installation for 13" of blown in fiberglass insulation plus $100 to extend baffles in attic. I was told I'd be contacted to schedule the install. I finally called over a week later and the less than friendly scheduler says they'll be there Thursday in the morning. I tell her no, I work and I need a Friday afternoon. She's says they are busy but schedules me for November 5th and says they will call on Thursday the 4th to confirm. November 4th comes around and no phone call. I call to verify and it's obvious they didn't have me on the schedule. They take my number and call me back later, saying they will be there in the morning on the next day. I tell them no, I need afternoon, and they finally come back to the phone and tell me they will be there between 12 noon and 5 pm. I ask if they will call before arrival and she says no. FIVE HOUR INSTALLATION WINDOW WITH OUT A PHONE CALL?
Anyway not always trusting contractors I made sure I photographed the attic prior to the install. Installers come on November 5th and are nice and courteous. They never did call but did arrive at 1pm. A week goes by and I got curious and decided to inspect the attic and low and behold they have only blown in ~6-8" of insulation BUT I was still charged for 13" of insulation.
I call M&M to see how we will remedy this. Billing tells me I need to call the salesman. I call John Smith and he is immediately combative, telling me they have been in business for X amount of years and how did I know they didn't blow in 13". I told him I took photos and he immediately changed his tone and asked me to email him the photos, although I did not have a warm and fuzzy from out exchange. I didn't receive a follow up so I contacted M&M again. I left messages for two days for the OPs manager. And then when I would call I was told their OPs manager Beverly Fitzsimmons had just left for lunch, she'll call you right back. Then when I didn't get a return call, I was told 'oh she just left' when I called again.
I finally got ahold of a woman who claimed to be a general manager. She said they were busy and wouldn't have time to come out and verify what they actually installed. She was less than friendly and wanted to know how much money I wanted back. I told her I wanted to pay for what I received, nothing more, nothing less. I told her I think they blew in between 6 and 10" and that would mean I overpaid by ~$200. She said she would adjust my account. Essentially they didn't care that they overcharged, they just wanted me to go away. What about the person who didn't document or double check their install? How many other people have been overcharged?
Now 3 days later I have seen nothing on my AMEX and have heard nothing from Beverly Fitzsimmons or John Smith. I have since filed a dispute with AMEX and contacted the Better Business bureau. John Mattarese with WCPO is next.
In conclusion a shady company who cares only about swindling as many people as they can - AVOID AT ALL COSTS. read more