I looked at this community while searching for a place to downsize and retire. Don't rely on the sales brochures and internal real estate agents' descriptions. Here is what I found in only 3 hours of looking at several units in different mutuals:
The brochures mention several clubhouses, a pharmacy, a health care utility, a pool and a golf course. Reality: the clubhouses are little more than a few small rooms in one of six designated buildings. Two of them - clubhouse #5 and #6 - are right next to each other. The others were difficult to find. They contain little more than some chairs or sofas, maybe a few ping pong tables and a small sitting area and some meeting rooms. Hardly a "clubhouse."
The "cafe" is laughable. It's a small room in one of the clubhouses, about the size of an employee lunch room in a small business, and consists of 4 coin-operated vending machines, a table and a few chairs. Soda, candy bars, chips and pretzels and premade sandwiches in vending machines. That's the "cafe."
The layout of the community is confusing to say the least. Each address has 4 numbers to identify itself: the number of the mutual (1-16), the building number within the mutual, the street address and a lettered designation of the individual unit. These are not explained; there are no helpful signs pointing the way, there seems to be no logic to how properties are numbered or how to find them. My agent and I spent more time backtracking, walking around and back the way we came, and searching for specific addresses than we spent looking inside the units themselves. We eventually had to rely on Google Maps and Google AI to help us find our way around. God help you if an ambulance has to try to find you.
I visited there on a Saturday afternoon. Both the pharmacy and the health care office were closed, and apparently are only open Monday through Thursday. No idea what a senior citizen is supposed to do if he or she gets sick between Friday and Monday morning, especially when family members are not allowed past the front gates without specific invitations for that day. If you get sick on the off days, I suppose you are on your own.
The pool and the golf course are small. The pool itself was supposedly closed for 2.5 years for updates or repairs. What takes 2.5 years to fix a pool, especially when the weather is not a hindrance to outdoor construction?
One does not purchase a piece of property here. You have to be interviewed and approved by a board of directors comprised of your neighbors. Even though you are required to pay 100% cash for your unit - financing is not allowed - you also have to show bank statements, proof of sufficient monthly income and long-term savings. You have to show at least $50K in liquid cash in the bank for the previous 6 months. You also have to pay a co-op fee of several thousand dollars. There are still more requirements, so read the application carefully. It is not like buying regular property, it is more like passing inspection before being invited to join a private club and then being granted a storage locker for you to live in after you have handed over hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash.
Take note - you do not own your unit. Even though you pay 100% cash before taking occupancy, it still belongs to the management association, which grants you permission to occupy the unit. If you wish to make upgrades to your unit, you are required to hire the community's workers; you cannot bring in handymen or workers of your own choosing. The prices charged by the community's men are twice the going rate of outside contractors.
One aspect I noticed and must comment on: after three hours of looking at various units and 'mutuals,' I did not see one single resident who is a person of color or ethnic or racial diversity. Not one... and this is So. Cal, and next door to Long Beach, which has as mixed a population as ever. The entire community that I saw was as white and plain as mayonnaise or Wonder bread. I would not have been surprised if part of the application and approval process required one to submit a blood test and DNA sample. I saw no African Americans, no Hispanics or Latinos, no Jews, no indication of LGBT acceptance or presence.
The very uniformity and "whiteness" of the community made me wonder about the real purpose of the stringent application, interview and approval process. You do not buy a piece of land to live on in Leisure World, you have to pass inspection first, audition for the part, and then you are granted permission to join. It feels like joining a private golf or yacht club whose members oddly enough are only white people; you are expected to hand over your cash and then conform. You do not own anything tangible, and you have very little control over your living space. Everything must be approved by your local board of directors, made up of some of your neighbors who may or may not like you but like to keep their nose in their neighbors' business. read more