I had an absolutely incredible experience at this tattoo shop from start to finish. David truly took the time to understand exactly what I wanted and somehow brought my vision to life even better than I imagined. David's attention to detail and ability to translate my ideas into a clean, beautifully executed tattoo was seriously impressive. What stood out just as much was the communication throughout the entire process. Everything was explained clearly which made me feel completely comfortable and confident moving forward. There were no surprises, just professionalism and transparency. On top of that, the atmosphere in the shop was amazing. You could tell all the artists genuinely enjoy working together, the camaraderie and positive energy made the whole experience even better. Plenty of times during my appointment, multiple other artists came by to check in on the work being done and uplifted each other which was very refreshing. I couldn't be happier with my tattoo or the experience as a whole. I'll definitely be coming back and recommending this place and David specifically for anyone looking for high quality and well done tattoos. read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

Came here as a walk in and was introduced to a really cool guy (can't remember his name). His work looked great & promising; so I obviously decided to get a tattoo by him...bad choice. I cried so hard in the shop and on the way home from how much the tattoo did NOT match the picture I showed. To make it worse I felt no empathy from him more or less "what do you want me to do?" The shading and white ink made it look so much worse. Currently I am in the process of getting it covered up, will never get another tattoo from here. read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - The tattoo I received... - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

I went there to tattoo my girl and those thirsty ass workers didn't let me stand near the work area when my girl is gettin a tattoo done bye her private area and I caught them looking at her wen she was showing the artist wat she wanted done they are pervs in this shop don't recommend for women read more

Beautiful work but EXTREMELY disappointed in Geomar's communication skills. This was our first time here and the experience would of been great if it wasn't for the poor communication. We describe the tattoo that we wanted and it was very small, simple and quick. Just a numeral number of our son's bday. He said it will just be $120. Once the service was done he then told us $240 ($120 EACH). He forgot to state that it was 120 EACH after we ask him the price for both together. He wrote the price on the receipts AFTER he was done with the service, instead of before hand. Even tho afterwards I saw on his Instagram he was advertising the $40 promotion on his page... I don't know how he went from $40 to $120....... again, great work, just need to work on his communication .. P.s. I had to keep editing this review because I was very upset at the situation so I was typing angry but once I calmed down i realize it wasn't a big deal. It was a mistake on his end. He is only human. he just need to be more clear with his customer. I understand mistakes happens but he should be really careful next time. Cause that can negatively effect the business. My husband can hear well, and I'm hard of hearing but I can read lips very well so we both understood him. He just made a small mistake read more

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I had a friend in town, so three of us decided we wanted a group tattoo. We ended up choosing Dream City because one of my friends had some work done previously, and said the work was good and reasonably priced. I didn't get our artist's name, but he was super professional and courteous. He worked with us in making our tattoos (pictured) perfect. He worked quickly, and paid good attention to body mechanics when positioning us for tattooing. His line work was also awesome and precise. If it were for the work alone, I would give this place 5 stars. The problem came after the tattoos were done and it was time for pricing. I had mistakenly thought that my friend had worked out pricing prior to our arrival, but that was also my mistake for not checking. The artist had to call the owner and ask him how much. The owner charged $120.00 FOR EACH TATTOO..... $360.00 for three stick figures! I have had lots of work done at tattoo shops in and out of Chicago, and I have never been charged so much for such simple work.... no shading, only a small amount of color, literally STICK FIGURES! We didn't argue, only because the work had already been done, and the time for negotiations had passed. That being said, I would not come back. Paid street parking. Cash only. The artist was professional, but the owner severely overcharged for the work that was done. I learned my lesson in making sure that the price is agreed on by everyone BEFORE the work is done. I love our tattoos though! The owner does have a point about getting two stars regarding pricing, so I'm upgrading to three, but seriously.... I didn't say I couldn't afford the tattoo, I just felt we had gotten gouged due to the fact that we hadn't agreed on the price beforehand. I feel that if we had agreed to a price beforehand, then we would not have been paying $360, and if that was the price prior to work being performed, then we would not have gotten our work done at Dream City. I've had lots of work done all over the Chicago area, and have NEVER been charged to steeply, for such minimal work. Even the girl that I went with, who has had work done at Dream City, said that none of her tattoos have costed her that much. Professionalism would dictate that the price would have been agreed on BEFORE work commenced, and would be included on the paperwork that was filled out. I've never had work done that wasn't quoted prior to beginning. As I said though, it's our fault for not finding out pricing before starting, and my fault for assuming that would have been done by the people I was with. I have no problem paying for quality work, but the cost was not reflected in the work that was done. LESSON LEARNED : ALWAYS get a quote before you get poked! read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - Cute work, but overpriced. $360 for the 3 - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

My husband and I had been thinking about ring finger tattoos for a while since his ring causes his finger so much irritation. We were in Boulder on vacation and thought it would be great to have it done there as something of a souvenir. We stopped in at Dream City just to ask rough pricing and get a few suggestions about sizing etc since we wanted our wedding date and knew that small lettering on a finger could be tough. Reed greeted us at the front and took a peek at our inspiration pics, answered a few questions and made a few suggestions, showed us examples of his line work and told us we could do it on the spot if we wanted. We had our toddler with us so we didn't think we'd be able to do it right then but the whole shop was SO chill with him being, well, a toddler. Everyone there was so laid back and friendly, it was totally comfortable and very clean. I got my finger done first, Reed was so patient and resized the stencil a few times until I was happy with it, and I loved it immediately. Then before my husband started his finger he pitched an idea to Reed for another small piece he wanted on his back, and they went to work designing it to look how my husband pictured it. It was a simple piece but he just had an idea in his head and wanted to make sure it reflected properly on his skin. Reed helped him with size, shape, font, placement etc and they went for it. It turned out exactly as my husband had pictured it in his head and we both love our wedding date finger tattoos. We're only here for a few more days but my husband is going to try to get back before we leave to do one more small piece with Reed. Cool atmosphere, good vibes, friendly staff, clean instruments... we would absolutely return to Dream City. read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - Wedding date tats - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

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Got my first tattoo done by Arturo. SO friendly and made the process a breeze. He gave me the best price and worked with me to get exactly what I wanted. Can't recommend enough. read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

I moved to the area 4 years ago and knew Dream City was just a few blocks from me. It took me quite awhile to work up the courage to walk down the street to the shop for my new tattoo. I've been wanting it for awhile, a semicolon on my wrist. As part of the Semicolon Project for mental health. But I was always anxious to ask a tattoo artist for it, afraid they'd know what it meant and that I'd be judged or that I'm just some guy getting a dumb symbol. Not here at Dream City. I had called ahead to see if they took cards and for their hours and if I needed an appointment. I was treated really friendly and told normally I should make an appointment but it was slow and to come in when I was ready. I told the person on the phone I'd be in in about a couple hours, hung up, took a deep breath, and then started walking. I came in really early, clutching my printout of a semicolon and looking wide eyed. But I was greeted with a huge smile and a friendly handshake, asked what I wanted, told them, and the guys immediately recognized me from the phone. I was put at ease as my artist took my printout and made a stencil. The atmosphere is relaxing and exciting at the same time, the buzz of tattoo needles bouncing off the walls and artist examples hanging on the wall. My tattooist sat me down and immediately knew what the semicolon meant. We talked about our experiences with mental illness and how we as a country need to do better treating it as he sterilized his tools and then inked me up. No judgment or anything. I left with a care package of moisturizer and a feeling that these guys care about the stories behind the tattoos they create. I'm coming back for my inevitable next one. read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - My tattoo from Dream City - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

Absolutely terrible. I came as a walk in and did not feel welcomed. The staff are very rude and artist are unprofessional.

First off the vibes in this shop are immaculate! There was never a dull moment the whole almost 30 hrs I was there!My tattooist Arturo was amazinggg! He designed the whole sleeve and made the time to finish it in only 3 days!He even let me watch throwback cartoons while getting tatted! 10/10 would recommend! read more

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Came here for r the first time for a piercing, the piercer Luis walked in with his sunglasses on and I assumed he would take them off while he pierced me but he didn't left them on the whole time? Then joked to his colleagues that he was hungover and just got back from partying in Wisconsin at 4 am and he clearly wasn't doing good, I should've got up and left but I didn't.. 3 days later the piercing is bleeding uncontrollably all day, for 8 hours straight.. I went to a different piercer to get it checked and I guess he hit a vein and the piercing was done way too low (a labret piercing) so I had to remove it.. when I messaged Louis about it he legit just didn't answer and when I messaged him and told him it was bleeding uncontrollably the only thing he said was "show me". Honestly a joke lol read more

Amazing artists! They are all friendly and all acknowledged me when I walked in. Amber, the petite yet badass tattoo artist did my piece. I walked in, telling her that I had a bald spot on my head and wanted it to be covered up with a bumble bee. She was super accommodating with everything. I told her what I wanted, including the size and color. She definitely delivered. The shop is clean and has personality. Free parking is a plus, especially since I didn't know how long it would be. I'm so glad I came in. I would come here again in a heart beat. Thanks Amber! read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - Bumble bee done by Amber - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

Terrible place to go to. My artist started to work there a while back and I paid for my work already but the owner of this shop told him to tell me I need to pay again so the shop needs to make money! These guys are bad news. I wouldn't recommend no one going here. They're very over priced, and very rude. There's no class there. read more

i was recommended by family to have geo do my first tattoo. when the tattoo was getting started he was aware to have color , but instead he makes it all black. To add It was large and didn't have color until I said something and then added a dot of color. it's an awful tattoo. i don't trust anyone to do my tattoo from here he is not experience enough. Do not get a tattoo unless you are looking to get a messed up tattoo. read more

Went in for a tattoo last night; right after I got home, I got several fraud alerts from my credit card company. Either the payment system they run off of their iPad is very insecure, or someone in the shop stole my credit card information. My card was used for 10 unauthorized online purchases within an hour of making a payment at the shop. read more

Got my first ever tattoo here back in August of 2018. I was initially trying to get into Kidd Jo's about two miles away from dream city, but they were apparently booked until 7pm on a Wednesday. They also told me I would have to greatly enlarge my tattoo if I didn't want to experience ink bleeding, which is total bs, they saw a young girl they were trying to make a bigger buck off of. So needless to say I looked around for more options. I called Dream City because I saw they were close to Kidd Jo's (they have since then moved more towards the city.) and spoke with whom I believe was the owner who said "Cmon in! We're not busy, we'll take take of you." So I went! Walked into a very clean and nicely designed tattoo parlor. High staffed on an off day, which was nice to see! I was set up with Arturo, who I spoke to about Kidd Jo's comments on the design I wanted and he also agreed they were lying to me. My dad also spoke to Arturo about how his color never lasts him more than a few months before it fades and how due to his very Olive completion, bright colors never seem to last. Arturo told him the previous shops he's been to were probably just "feathering in the color instead of really pushing it into the skin." So it was good to hear a tattoo artist who knew a lot about his craft. He set me up in his station, and since he knew it was my first tattoo he talked me through his sanitation process, and even told me how a tattoo gun works. He then asked me about four times if I was 100% happy with the location and size of the tattoo. He also let me know when he was about to start tattooing so I could prepare myself. And honestly, I barely felt a thing. When we got closer to the ankle bone he told me if I felt pain to breathe a certain way, so it would help distract me from it. Once the tattoo was finished, he gently cleaned it and applied transparent second skin to the area and told me not to take it off for three days, saying, "The skin is clean underneath and the wrap does not collect bacteria, leaving it on for a while will help the skin's natural healing and will help lock in color. Then wash it with Dial gold bar soap and a scentless lotion." He then handed me his business card and told me if I have any questions or need more advice for maintenance and cleaning that I could contact him anytime. He also said if I experienced any color loss he would touch it up complimentary. It's been almost two years now, and my tattoo has close to no fading whatsoever, and compared my friends most recent tattoos, mine still look fresher than theirs. Which is totally awesome. I'm not sure if Arturo still works at Dream City, but let me tell you, this guy really knows what he's doing. Both his designs, and customer care are extraordinary. Total A+ parlor and staff. read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - Two years after getting tattooed. Still super pigmented, almost no color fading or bleeding. - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

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Dream city tattoos has always been my spot to go since i got my first tattoo with gabriel Cervantes i was refered to gabriel by my friend pedro he told me he was the owners brother which made me interested even more so when i got my first foot tattoo with him i knew he was my go to when i wanted to get tattooed and im not easily impressed so yes his work is always nasty in a bad ass way you show him your idea and he messes around with it a little but i am always satisfied when i go in and tell him my ideas and the staff is super friendly as well very clean very open will be going back for more. read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - Smile now cry later - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

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Really bad service,they had us wait 3 hours just for a nose piercing and my nose piercing came out Crocked.The piercer was talking to his girlfriend and eating while we waited.Everyone else was also complaining about the service read more

I would like to start with a bit of history how I ended going to Dream City in Chicago. I was actively looking for a tattoo shop for quite some time. I looked and asked many people about tattoo shops in Houston since that's where I reside, however, I couldn't find any that I felt comfortable with. I'm not a very creative person, I know what I like, but simply do not have that gift of putting it on paper. Dream City was highly recommend by friends in Chicago. Since I go to chicago often for business, I figure I would take that recommendation and act on it. So I showed up to the tattoo shop, spoke to Ganzo where he introduced me to Little Chris. Little Chris is another tattoo artist and another very talented artist. I explained what I wanted and next thing you know I was getting a tattoo, highly satisfied. At this time, I already spoken to Ganzo about coming back for another tattoo. He put me on his schedule, explained what I wanted and he & another artist came out with yet another masterpiece. I flew back to Chicago three weeks later and another masterpiece became part of my life. I'm extremely thankful to the entire staff as they were all very tentative. Ganzo and his staff were extremely preventive as far as safely performing their jobs. Having a safety background, I can appreciate that aspect of their business. When you sit in a chair for 5 to 7 hours, you learn and observed how the shop interacts with one another and also see the satisfied customer leaving with smiles in their face. Currently, I have another appointment with Ganzo and I cannot wait until then. I am extremely satisfied with their business, as well as with my tattoos. I highly recommend them and have already done so to some of my colleagues that inquired about their business once they seen my tattoos. read more

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Just got this done early early this morning by Arturo and we're loving it!!!!!! Great place great people. Great design. Thanks all four of us are truly happy with it. read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

Let me say this: Dream City Tattoos is now my NUMBER ONE top pick tattoo shop for any kind of work. I was instantly able to book through Instagram for the next day for my 21 year old daughter and myself (My piece being multicolor & my daughters being black & grey). The place is very clean and the staff is very sociable. LET ME SAY THIS: LEBSTER IS A BEAST! He can deliver more to you then you can hope for. Not only did he deliever my idea piece clean, clear & neat, but he also added (of course with consent) his own unique and clean cut touches to the actual tattoo. What also stood out which gravitates me towards me booking again is the socializing through out the whole process and experience to make it even more enjoyable. Moral of the story: I MOST DEFINITELY RECOMMEND Dream City Tattoos. read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

Let's begin. I love tattoo shops. I have only been to two of them. I have to say Dream City Tattoo tops my list. When I walked in, I was greeted with a handshake. Which is a bonus. The shop is clean friendly staff. My tattoo artist that I am loyal too now works here. A huge shout out to Pedro for squeezing me in today and simply killing my tattoo. Thank you. I highly recommend this location, for me it is near the Grand/Nordicia bus terminal and also near the Harlem and Grand bus stop with a short walking trip. This is my last tattoo but if I do get another. I will be back here. This is my tattoo shop. Once again, thank you. read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

Great atmosphere, friendly staff, greeted as soon as walking in, clean! Definitely coming back read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - My brother and I got matching tattoos. The meaning behind it was "I promise to be there for you no matter what, in this life or the next." - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

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Awesome shop, awesome artist arturo! It was my first tattoo and my arturo explained everything to me in regards how to care afterwards and he did amazing job!!!!Everyone was extremely helpful and courteous! I literally went back for another tat 2 hours later!will be back for more! read more

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Recently got a tattoo from Leo. Loved how it came out. The font was so clean and perfect. Will be coming back!

Their piercing Luis Flores is awful... He pierced my nose with a hoop instead of a stud (not my choice), gave no healing instructions, and posted an Instagram video of him saying the N-word. Also, no one wears masks here??? read more

Shop is very nice on the inside and very clean. However, I booked an appt with Leo at 2 on a Saturday. He messaged me and asked me to move to 6 o'clock and I said okay. I got there at 6 o'clock and he was no where to be found. I waited about 45 mins until I just ended up leaving. He message me about 3 hours later saying he had a "family emergency". I asked him to send my deposit back and he did but he never asked if I wanted to reschedule or accommodate me for the HUGE inconvenience of driving 40 minutes there, 45 mins of waiting, and 40 mins driving back home with NO tattoo. I will never book with him again. read more

I went in for a matching tattoo with my cousin and Arturo is the one who did our tattoos. They came out completely horrible. Lining was off as well as the one part of Tina's glasses were two different shapes. My cousins tattoo of Louise was horrible as well. Again lining was completely off. One side bigger than the other,the shading was horrible,as well as one side longer than the other. The owner was messaged and he said That the tattoos were not that bad and they were a few minor fixes to go to the shop to have Arturo fix them. Why would i go to the same person who messed up in the first place read more

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This review is loooonngggg over due- but better late than never. I was super stoked to go here because an old friend of mine is real cool with the shop owners and tattoo artists and has work done here all the time. Long story short- I got a tattoo here and the experience was complete shit as well as the tattoo. Got my tattoo put on by some dude that barely spoke a lick of English- as I speak Spanish as well I tried to converse with him during the process. Dude straight up ignored me- awkward. Maybe he was nervous or something- or just an asshole. idk. I got a little nervous so I talked the piercer at the time, Gray- real cool guy- told him I was feeling a bit apprehensive. He assured me everything would be fine. Left the shop feeling good about everything- when I got home and took the bandage off a few hours later I noticed how terribly outlined and filled in my tattoo was. (Couldn't tell at the shop since it was so fresh and swoullen.) I figured I would give them the benefit of the doubt and thought I'll wait and see how it looks after healing. Well it healed like shit as well and believe you me I took care of this tattoo. I reached out to my old friend and told him I wasn't happy with my tattoo- sent him and the Owner Gonzo pics and they came up with some bs excuse that the needle blotted or some silly ish like that. ( I could totally understand if that had happened in like 1 area- but it's basically the entire outline.) They told me they'd fix it free or charge so I thought that's cool. I can dig it- they must be stand up guys. But no. Tried to set up an appointment with Gonzo to fix my tattoo- got blown off several times and then when I was finally in touch with him he told me he was too busy with new clientele to help me out. What a f*****g joke. Then I find out that they guy that did my tattoo was fired because he was a junkie and also heard that he wasn't a qualified tattoo artist.... Which would make perfect sense. How lovely. This place may have some good tattoo artists- because I have seen some good work done by artists here- but they're highly unprofessional and a bunch of bs'ers. The only reason I'm giving them 2 stars is because of their piercer, Gray. He did my nose and a few of my cartilage piercings- he is the man and I would give him- solely him- a 5 star review. Although I no longer believe he works at Dream City. Tear. Certainly not satisfied- certainly not coming back nor would i recommend anyone to go here. Should probably care of your clients, Dream City. Sorry- not sorry. read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - Terrible outline job- terrible fill in job. Will be getting it fixed at a different shop. Screw you Dream City. - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

I'm originally from Indianapolis but I came to town to visit my mama and decided to get tatted while my sisters took care of her.I chose this place because I saw their work online and I liked it.Travelled 2 hours from the south side and they were very busy.Long story short I was a walk in so they were doing their appointments. I didn't get tatted but the owner said he'd try to fit me in.He kept me informed about what was going on every step of the way.So again I didn't get tatted but the owner was soooo incredibly kind and said he'd take care of me personally if I were to call him.Gave me his card and I was out. He didn't have to do that. I was impressed.Gave me a quick consultation about my cover up and said he'd take care of me.Which is great cause he's the best artist there.I gave it 4 stars only because I didn't get tatted.This dude Gonzo is the boss and a stand up dude.Would DEFINITELY recommend this place to my people. read more

Moose was so patient and kind to me. I was freaking out because I didn't know what to expect. This was my first tattoo and I absolutely love it! It didn't hurt at all. He made sure I really was ok with placement and design size and went back to the drawing board for little changes I wanted. This was the best experience I could've had! Thanks, Moose! read more

Dream CIty Tattoos - He must increase but I must decrease. John 3:30 by Moose - Tattoo Near Me - Chicago, Illinois

Dream City is a clean tattoo shop with very talented artist! I highly recommend getting your next tattoo there!

Owner has no passion and doesn't care about customers. To him everything and everyone is a dollar sign and forget about paying upfront for your tattoo artists will dodge you for months or not even finish your tattoo at all. They say touch ups are free yet if show up for one they scatter like roaches when the lights turn on. Forget about setting up an appointment for your tattoo if the artist comes up on a bigger project for that day he will cancel on you on some bullshit. read more

I have been coming here since they opened. I got all 6 of my tattoos with them.The place is clean, Fair prices and amazing work. I get compliments about my tattoos everywhere I go. Took my best friend, cousin, aunt, brother and uncle and each have gotten 2 or more tattoos from them. Every artist is good especially the shop owner Gonzo. read more

A friend and I went to get tattooed by Julio, and I highly suggest him. He did great work, in a short time, but dedicated lots of attention to the specifics of what we wanted. His consultation with design was probably double the actual ink time. I really recommend this location. read more

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I've been coming to Dream City Tattoos for the past 5 years for all of my tattoos and they do awesome work! Gabriel is the best at what he does and very professional. Always makes sure the work he's doing is perfect and that you like it before he starts. Definitely recommend to get work done here! read more

I have been here twice already and Lebster has made my dreams a reality. He is so nice and friendly but overall he really has talent. He is very dedicated and focused. He takes so much pride in what he does which makes me feel even more comfortable. If you come here ask for Lebster! He will definitely make you happy. The shop is very nice. Super clean and organized which says alot about a place. All the licenses are displayed and they follow legal protocol when it comes to tattooing anyone. All the supplies they use are sterile and brand new. It also smells really clean in there. I would recommend Dream City tattoos/Lebster to everyone. read more

My friend and I walked in off the street looking to get some bff tattoos... nothing too big and about the size of a bandaid. We worked with Arturo and he was so nice and professional. He held conversation the whole time and made us feel very comfortable. What made this a 5 star experience for me was how the entire team handled an embarrassing situation. Halfway through my session I got extremely nauseated and dizzy and had to stop. It was super embarrassing but the whole team stepped up to help me through it. After about 10 mins I was able to pull it together and finish. Honestly, everyone present was so professional, attentive and accommodating. Thanks Arturo and team you all helped this awkward, and completely preventable situation feel a little less stressful and embarrassing. Also, I love my tattoo! It is healing beautifully. I wish you the most success! read more

Ok, it was time to get my sleeve started, after many years of just well wishing. Went to Dream city tattoo. Everyone was professional and helpful. The shop was fun and welcoming, and each artist was busy and encouraging to everyone being serviced. I Heard about MOOCHIE. I heard she was best! I saw her amazing work and attention to detail. Her creativity and abilities made this the best experience ever. From concept to execution she did her thing and got it done. My 1/2 sleeve is well on its way and I will be going back to finish up as well as cover up some previous "art". I think I've found my artist, you should too!! As a bonus got my nose pierced cause hey why not!! read more

I have gotten 5 tattoos now from Leo & I love the environment. Everyone is always so nice & considerate. It's a very professional environment to get some really beautiful work done. I always recommend it to my friends & family & will continue to come back to get my work done, for sure. read more