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    4 By 4 Cafe

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    Thirty 5ive Tavern & Grill

    Thirty 5ive Tavern & Grill

    4.4
    (196 reviews)
    3.9 mi
    $$

    We loved the key lime pie (e.g., photo of pie from night before at Manhattan Heights) at Manhattan…read moreHeights Bar & Grill so much that we ordered it again to go from their sister restaurant, Thirty5ive Bar & Grill, the next day. It became a special treat for our family while visiting our Tía in home hospice--and one of her last, most joyful bites. Food and our family's recipes are at the heart of who we are, so hearing my Tía Emma call it "magnificent" meant everything. While, we didn't dine in, we noted the atmosphere struck the right balance of upscale bar and grill on our two visits. Please note, this place get packed on weekend nights. If you want to eat here on the weekend swing by from 4 to 5:30pm.

    We arrived with a baby and the hostess immediately told us no high chairs. Ok no biggie yet my…read morewife pointed out that they do have changing stations for babies in the restroom which is odd. Expectations and reality were nothing alike. As we were seated our waiter took 10 min to great us and then another 12 min to bring our drinks. I didn't think anything of it yet it was a precursor to the rest of our dinner. After he took our order our kids food came out in a very timely fashion but our two orders of salmon and one steak sandwich took 40 min to arrive at the table. What a ridiculous waste of my time because my sandwich was missing the fries ordered and our waiter thought nothing of it till I brought it up then he took another 10 min to bring my fries. All this while simultaneously forgetting the sauce for the salmon which also took another 10 min to bring out. The salmon was so dry it was tacky and stuck to your teeth. If you know the feeling you know it's bad. The rice that came underneath the salmon was crunchy and way undercooked. All while the waiter was like oh I can bring you free deserts for your wait all while I could only think about how I just wanted to leave. I was internally livid and exhausted but kept it to my self after seeing the owner or manager who we the guy with the white hair over at the bar enjoying a few alcoholic beverages meanwhile his restaurants service and waitstaff to the worst possible job they can. I saw the people who got the most attention and good service were all regulars sitting at the bar laughing it up with the manager/owner older guy. Why not make sure your restaurant is running smoothly and food is being delivered and prepared properly and stop trying to impress the regulars who most likely will show up either way. Any restaurant that is this unorganized and unmotivated is due to crappy management. All this and the waiter is like I'll comp you for the steak sandwich with a discount for the bad service and salmon which was a whopping $5. I don't want a discount I don't want free day old desserts I want good service and decent food. Discounts and free desserts will never fix the problem because it will always be a crutch for trashy customer service. How about stop drinking with the guests and whoop that staff into semi decent shape buy some high chairs and make sure your expo does a once over quality check on the food and time it takes to get to the table EVEN if that means stepping in and doing it yourself. The restaurant is dark the tables are sticky the whole place is very compact . Perfect and quite attractive after 5-6 wines for sure. I'm sure the food is outstanding after a few drinks as well . They gave us a $25 dollar gift card to return which if I could I'd give to the owner so he could experience the same horrible food and service we did. I wouldn't even give the gift card to someone I hated. This was one of the first times in a long time I didn't just let it slide because I understand all restaurants and people have bad days but this was exceptionally bad. If you are thinking it can't be that bad think again it absolutely can. The whole "I'm sorry we usually have awesome service and everyone loves our food it's probably just me and my family " is laughable . This isn't my first time here while visiting El Paso. The food is getting worse.

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    Black Bear Diner El Paso

    Black Bear Diner El Paso

    3.1
    (84 reviews)
    5.7 mi

    Looks like what I've been looking for! Traditional American Style Diner!…read more Service was pretty good. No complaints there. Ambiance was perfect. It has that trucker, small town American diner ambiance. The food was delicious! I want to visit here again next Saturday and try a different breakfast plate. First off, I've been wanting good hash browns that don't seem like frozen or bought pre-prepped and these hit the spot! They're unique also. Never had this style. The potato slivers were really thick so really tasty. It was toasty and soft, so perfect texture. I just wish it was seasoned. I understand why it may not be but it would've made it perfect. I came originally to order the ham steak but I saw home made hot Italian sausage and I had to try it. I'm so glad I did. It was delicious! So tasty! It's going to be hard not ordering that on my next visit. I didn't care for the Apple Cobbler. It was just a mini apple pie. I mean if that's what you want go for it. It tasted good. It's just not my ideal version of a cobbler. I still highly recommend this place and I'm definitely eating here again on my next opportunity to eat breakfast!

    Second chance. Walked in with NO ONE at the front to check peopke in, creating a line. Once someone…read moreactually came to man rgat station, seating was quick. Waited awhile for the waitress once seated. I ordered their version of French Dip - Tri Tip dip. Waited for about 30 minutes for the food. Waitress brought it out without the Au Jus. Stated she would go back to kitchen to get it. Came right back out, stating they were all out. If the point if a DIP sandwich is the AuJus, you should announce you are out AT THE TIME THE ITEM IS ORDERED!! It took so long to get the mean, I did not feel like sending it back to the kitchen to order something else. And don't bring out Malt vinegar or Worchestershire sauce as a "substitute! French fries as a side were luke warm and UNSALTED! Salt would no longer stick to the potatoes at that time. Sandwich was dry....definitely needed the Au Jus. Ended up eating the insides, leaving the greasy ciabatta on the plate. Probably will notvretuen. Lackluster service and mediocre food quality. El Paso has better food choices!

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    4 By 4 Cafe - newamerican - Updated June 2026

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