I have purchased 7 homes in my life, so far. This experience has been the most disappointing and most painful of all my home purchases. I have never seen a more incompetent group of underwriters. I have never seen so much back and forth over some of the simplest things. They don't even know what documents are in a HELOC, and they kept asking me for the same document, over and over, even though I told them I did not have one. They kept asking for a "statement" for a new loan that was not even old enough to have a statement yet, and when I finally got one after waiting long enough, they said it was insufficient. Then, ON THE DAY OF CLOSING, they asked for our IDs and our passports. I will NEVER recommend your company to ANYONE buying a home. I would recommend they rent before using you.
Your previous response on another site shows your lack of awareness as to exactly what happened. I will site various portions of your response and provide additional feedback. I still have every single email exchange with your staff. I stand by my assertion that your underwriters are clueless.
1. It's because we had very little cooperation and did not receive the specific items requested that are easy to obtain, but only you can access.
Your staff was told on more than one occasion that the Wells Fargo HELOC did not have a "NOTE". I even offered to drive to your location to provide my entire packet to your staff. I told your staff exactly what was in the HELOC packet. After the third or fourth time, they finally decided to contact the bank directly, which is actually what should have happened after I told them the first time that there was no "NOTE" in the HELOC packet. Your staff was told before this process even started that a HELOC was in progress. It was a major discussion point. You also continued to ask for a "statement" on the HELOC, when the HELOC was only two or three days old and no statement had been cut yet by the bank. I went to the bank and got what they could provide, and your rep said that it was determined to be insufficient. Then, even AFTER I received the first statement from the bank, your rep said that even that was insufficient because it did not show the date the HELOC originated. Well, what freaking document do you need? You either need a statement, or something that shows the origination date, or both. If you can't tell me exactly what document you need, how am I going to produce it?
2. My fantastic staff ended up going above and beyond to figure out a work around at our cost to resolve the issue and close your loan by the scheduled closing date of your purchase.
It is not my responsibility to gather documents that don't exist. There was no "NOTE" in my HELOC packet. There was no statement until 8 days after the HELOC even closed. I told your staff that and they continued to ask for it. Your workaround was to contact the bank directly. If, after contacting the bank, it was determined that some other form in my HELOC packet would suffice, you could have requested it. I responded to every single email from your staff within 24 hours, and more than 90% of them within the same business day.
3. As to the requirement that ID be provided at closing...
Again, you are factually incorrect. I am not complaining about ID being required at closing. I'm complaining that your underwriter's, or someone working for your organization, needed my and my wife's ID and passport an hour or so before the documents were supposed to be recorded at the county. You mean to tell me you could not have gotten my ID during the week prior? You mean that the copies of our IDs that were provided when this process started were insufficient? Oh, and WTF is your deal with needing a copy of my passport. What if I didn't have a passport.
4. In addition, final loan documents for every mortgage closed in WA State require that they be done in the presence of a certified notary...
The notary came to my house. It was YOUR notary. I have absolutely no issues with the notary, other than the fact that she was sick as hell while a my house.
5. As for the rate being higher than expected we closed with the same rate and costs that were quoted upfront. As we discussed rates did drop slightly during the loan process but the drop was not enough for us to be able to renegotiate your rate.
Interesting that other companies are able to lock in a rate, and still lower it within a 30 day period.
Go ahead and respond again and put the blame on me, the customer. Next time, I will post the content of the emails to show exactly what transpired. Those emails will show that I repeatedly told your staff that the HELOC did not have a NOTE, that the HELOC was too new to have a "statement", and that when I finally got one, you said it was insufficient. Then, I will provide the emails that shows that you asked for the IDs a hour or so before the documents were supposed to be recorded at the county.
So go ahead. Make my day. read more