Wow. What I can say is that a massage by Ron is an experience unlike any other. He mixes many modalities, employing a rubber mallet thing, hot towels, bolsters/pillows to put you into all sorts of positions, with some elements of Thai massage and aggressive stretching/moving you around, and a ton of deep tissue work. There were moments of pure relaxation and actual drooling, and moments of near pain. This is not a low key relaxing massage, but I assure you, it will leave your body feeling completely transformed. Unreal really. The massage room he uses is in the back of a nail salon, and is relatively tranquil - relaxing music shuts out any noise from the salon, he has soft colored lighting, and incredible aromas. I highly recommend, but encourage you to go with no expectations that this will be like any other massage you've experienced! read more

Life changing massage with Ron. Best deep tissue massage by a long shot. The space is no frills but extremely comfy and clean. Couldn't recommend more highly and there's easy garage parking. read more

LeeLaWaDee Massage - Massage Near Me - San Francisco, California

Wittawas definitely is like no other Thai massage I have ever had in my life. Not your regular stepping in my back and forcing yoga positions in my body but instead, the wooden tools he used hammering my problematic areas is a first for a massage whore like me for the last 35 yrs! Definitely made such a difference in a deeper level that I can call him more than a therapist, but a healer!! I slept almost 10 hrs that night- hahaha. All I can say is that I'm happy I've met him. Wow, he's gifted! Since I live in peninsula, I'll for sure include him to my mix that supports my wellness. Thank you for letting me share this here :) read more

I have been a client of Ron for eight years now. Saying that Ron is an amazing massage therapist is an understatement. Ron is an amazing healer! Ron incorporates spirit mind heart body and head in his practice. He takes his time with each client and every touch is done with intention and with the utmost respect for the whole human experience. The "Ron experience" is one that is noticeably sacred. Meaning the minute you lay on that table and his hands touch your body you're on a journey. Ron sets the bar so high mediocracy becomes almost unbearable. So if you are looking for a healing experience see Ron and let him treat you like you deserve. read more

LeeLaWaDee Massage - Massage Near Me - San Francisco, California

Best ever Been going to Ron for over 2 years now. I try to go every 2-4 weeks. He will knead you until everything is fixed. Knowledgeable, generous, great service. Very experienced with kinesiology and will customize your experience based on needs and context. Went to him almost weekly during bodybuilding prep last season. read more

Best Thai Massage in SF ! Ron was able to "fix" multiple body issues I was having involving muscle tension in areas I never knew existed by a high percentage, may take multiple visits but very well worth the service, lower back, sciatica, feet, neck, shoulders, ribs, oh my, you better be ready read more

Ron gave me a fantastic massage and fixed my shoulder issue in one visit! He's a super nice guy and I highly recommend everyone to get a tuneup once in a while with him. I'm going back for sure. read more

PAYMENT: I used a Living Social coupon of $59 for a 95 min Thai massage. MASSAGE THERAPIST: Chat CLOTHING: They provide a top and long shorts for you to wear during the massage. They do use massage oil or lotion - wasn't sure which it was. There was also some liniment on my shoulders that smelled like Bengay so be glad for their clothing. I requested a medium pressure deep tissue which was extremely painful. I repeatedly asked him to use lighter pressure - I said, "OW!" more times than I can remember and I was shrinking away from him after awhile. He would laugh nervously(?) and apologize and ease up on the area he was working on, but go right back to the painful cycle a minute later. He said he was only using medium pressure, but I expressed multiple times it was too much. He would leave the room to fill the hot water pillow they use to relax/warm your muscles. I had to ask him to move it several times because it felt like it was burning me. I posted a pic of my burned stomach/torso that I saw when I got home. (1/15: The pic has been removed by Yelp as they said it's not representative of the business so personal experiences should be communicated via the review. I can't believe I am the only one to have been burned so I do think that is representative of the business, but I understand in terms of their policy's sake.) That was through the top they have you wear and not on bare skin like when they place it in your back. The redness took a day to go away. I noticed this in another review as well, when he went to heat the pillow, he left the door open every time. I could tell because the room got drafty and ppl were walking by and talking. The mani/pedi spa location that they operate out of has a relaxing atmosphere and looks very clean, but the massage itself was far from relaxing. I know deep tissue can be intense, but a massage therapist should know when to adjust to a clients tolerance. read more

Hands down the best Thai massage I have EVER had and trust me I've been around the block! I am literally so mellow that I came home and felt compelled to hop on the computer to share how awesome this massage was. This is not for the sissy types that like some fru fru light stroking. They drill into those knots and are merciless - just the way I like it. You just have to breathe through the pain. Its so worth it in the end. I've been to Lee La Wa Dee a few times, but now that they've moved the atmosphere is so much better. They now share a space with Thi, a high end nail spa and the environment could not be more serene. The thing that sets this place apart is the skill and technique of the masseuses. They really know how to target the knots and get your whole body to release its tension. Its the perfect combination of pleasure and pain. By the end of my session I had soft feet and was 100% relaxed. I can't tell you how great I feel. Truly like the website says - "walking on clouds." The best part is their warm paraffin foot treatment combined with their traditional Thai massage. OMG its the most relaxing feeling! I didn't think it could get any better than this and it blows my mind that they have managed to elevate the experience even more! I can't wait to recommend this place to anyone who will listen to me. You won't go wrong spending an hour in very strong capable hands! read more

Expert hands and knowledge. Uniquely good Thai massage, would strongly recommend and look forward to returning.

I've been feeling tons of back, shoulder, and neck pain these past few months. Though this definitely wasn't a "relaxation" massage experience (so look elsewhere if you aren't ready for some #NoPainNoGain) there was something healing about the entire 65 minutes. I was already feeling better with every deeply applied pressure that Ron had in store for the areas that I noted needed work. Also would like to add that Ron is super zen... like a Buddha hippie who encourages meditation throughout the massage and just in general. I've tried so many massage therapists everywhere I've traveled and Ron has by far delivered the best healing massage I have ever received. I don't think I'll go to another one in San Francisco as I'm going to Ron moving forward. I feel amazing! Thank you, Ron! read more

This review is long overdue. Ron is the #1 massage therapist in San Francisco, hands down. I have refereed him to almost everyone I know and would be delighted to continue referring. This is because there is no knot that he can't rub out and the guy is an absolute expert when it comes to understanding muscle wiring. Ron truly puts all other massage therapists to shame. Two stories: 1. Once I had excruciating shoulder pain so painful that I had to head to the ER. I went to Ron to get temp relief, but turns out it was a tendon related issue so Ron completely rubbed it out in two hours. Unreal. Something like this would have cost hundreds in physical therapy copays (on my insurance at least) 2. Recently I woke up with bad lower back pain one day to the point where my back wasn't responding to foam roller or stretches. I booked a same day appointment with Ron and he identified the issue via a large knot on my shoulder that was pulling on my back. Within two hours he rubbed it out and voila, no more back pain There are countless other stories, but in a nutshell: Ron is truly a pro. He won't let you leave until the issues are fully resolved. He has made my life much better and healthier and I feel very lucky that I found him. If you have an issue like what I went through, save yourself some time and money and go to Ron. read more

Ron's thumbs and elbows are exorcists. They will banish knots, tension, and inconsistencies from your torso and limbs. You will cry, you will drool, you will experience immense pleasure alongside immense pain, you will question if you like BDSM. The oh so pleasurable pain is stiffness and constriction screaming as they leave your body. The knots hiding underneath your worn muscles will seek refuge elsewhere, in someone who relishes in relaxing massages, in someone who does not yet know Ron. read more

This place saves lives! We were looking forward to spending some money on massages at our hotel spa during our stay, but the cost was ridiculous. We ended up finding this place, a tiny hole is the wall in China Town. Both me and my husband ended up treating ourselves to the full-body, hour-long massage FOR $45 EACH and after walking 8 miles around the city, it was the best decision we ever made. If we hadn't found this spot on our last day, we would have been here every afternoon. read more

This is a great place for those into exotic role-playing. I was a captured American spy, and he was my soviet-era KGB interrogator. I requested a medium-hardness for the amount of pressure for the massage, but the amount easily exceeded my threshold of pain no fewer than 10 times. Like an experienced torturer who needs to keep his subject alive, he was able to inflict an excruciating amount of pain without causing any permanent physical damage. Any feeling of agony and torment disappeared the moment he eased the pressure ... and along with it, all the knots and cramps in my muscles. I wonder if Guantanamo Bay would consider Thai massage as an alternative to water boarding. read more

I just had my massage with Rob and it was like nothing I have ever experienced. I will say: I don't think this type of massage is for everyone. This is the only massage I've ever truly moaned in. Boom! During the massage, it is not really relaxing, it feels more like a journey. The massage is INTENSE, but there are some lovely parts that are pure pleasure. Like the green tea, hot parafin wax they apply to your feet at the beginning of the treatment, the hot compresses (note: make sure to let them know when it gets to hot so they can keep rotating them) and the lotions/oils. Also lots of good smells throughout. This is the massage I've been looking for all my life - he was able to touch parts of my body that really hurt, hitting DIRECTLY on the pain. Plus, various stretching (yoga moves) are used. If you are looking for a place to really get the knots out, and are not afraid of pain, I suggest you book an appointment and be prepared to: 1) BREATHE, never stop breathing. This will help with the pain. 2) Book soft or med pressure to start out 3) Maybe book a pedicure at the attached nail salon after, so you have somewhere to sit and rest for a minute 4) Read the Yelp review by Mark M to help yourself prepare. *Also - I am a queer, often male presenting, female bodied person and found my experience to be fine. The ladies kinda did a double take when I came in, maybe trying to figure out if I was a boy or girl, maybe b/c I had a pretty cool sweater on. Also, Rob did notice, pretty innocently, that I had a bald head and asked me if I was a monk! Haha. No Rob. But we both agreed that a bald head would make the massage that more effective. read more

I make it a point to try and schedule a massage with Ron at least once a month. Bad posture + tendency to cross my legs + countless hours hunched over computers all day = intense pains that keep me from sleeping sometimes. My first few times with Ron, he focused on getting my shoulders and neck loosened up. They were so knotted it was cutting off circulation to my brain and causing excruciating headaches. Ron showed me some simple stretching exercises to do every day. The exercises have helped to loosen my shoulders and neck, and I don't have the headaches as often as I used to. Now Ron has moved onto my next problem area - my lower back. His new instructions are for me to open up my chest, pull my shoulders back, and do these exercises/yoga poses to stretch out my hip muscles, which are apparently contributing to my lower back pain problems. Also, according to him my stomach muscles are "knotted" (further contributing to the lower back pain) and he showed me how to loosen those knots. He wouldn't let me go until I had repeated his example and demonstrated a full understanding of what I was supposed to do! You should budget plenty of time when you have a session with him - he doesn't pay attention to the time as much as he focuses on treating your problem areas. This means that a session with him often runs overtime, but he doesn't charge you for the extra time. He's intensely thorough, and truly cares about treating your problems, not providing a temporary feel-good experience. So, if you want to just relax and feel pampered, Ron is NOT the person to see. If you want to fundamentally fix the problems you have with your body and aren't afraid of a little pain to get there, Ron is definitely your man. read more

This is a journey through Time & Space...not really, but it will seem like that. Just remember to BREATHE and let the healing begin. The more "pain" that you can stand, the better you will feel at the end, trust me! This is no Namby Pamby Swedish stroke-off, This is Thai Massage people and you are going to feel it. But be much better off in the end. Ron is an Artist, let him work his magic on you. read more

I went to visit Ron for a full body massage After my flight from europe i felt stiff as a fork. The treatment was intense , but i came rejuvinated and vitalised out of the session. It was absolutaly worth it. read more

Wow, if you want a good strong massage to get the kinks and knots out of you with good pain, this is your place! I felt like jello afterwards in a good way. Give it a try and see what you think. LeeLaWaDee is also in the same space as a nail shop - looked like a nice place to get your mani-pedi. read more

I have been to Thailand, I have used Massage therapists for several years and I couldn't recommend this place more. Seriously, magic hands. Of course, if you're shy and new to this style, be advised this may not be the best ft for you.Although he does not use traditional thai technique, he will not walk or stand on you.His style is very solid in the stretching associated as you may already know. He really encourages deep rhythmic breathing, and I know form Yoga what an affect this has. I am so pleased to have found him and will go back next time I am in town for sure. Don't be surprised that there is no real signs on the exterior of the building, he rents a room in a salon and w-once you get up the elevator and into their space, you'll see really how lovely it is as you sip your tea and are healed by the magic hands. Trust and breathe! read more

I highly recommend Ron for a massage! I always have tight shoulders bc I do aerial sports. He gets all my knots out! Like most classic thai massages you get a big loose outfit and they kind of move around that so you don't have to be fully nude. They also stretch you out kind of like doing yoga. Ron get DEEP in there and you'll feel 10 lbs lighter after. So worth it! read more

Unreal massage. You have to go see Ron. Far exceeded my expectations and my body feels completely different (in a good way!). Ron was able to work out my kinks and addressed specific challenge areas. The space is immaculate and Ron is incredible and kind. I can't recommend it enough!! read more

I went there this is second time for the massage I mean it real Thai massage Deep tissue and help me to strech my body He has strong hands I ever had massage arround San francisco before love it for the massage I had experience from Thailand I could say he closed very much from Thailand for the place is not classic but ok for the price and relax I can get If you go there dont expect from the real spa I mean beauty spa or Treatement but real Thai massage and need some streching or more pressure this is very good perfect you can tell him how presure and what do you want the presure point too i will go there agains for sure thanks read more

I'm very timid when it comes to getting a massage from a man. I was super nervous before going to this place because I never had a male massage therapist before. I've been to this place twice, both with Chat. He literally changed my thoughts about male massage therapist and I thank him a lot. I love his powerful massage. Also he is very careful and attentive about your feelings throughout the whole massage session. If he has to take my shirt off, he carefully asks me if he can do that. At the end of the session, he will let you know how to stretch certain part of your body if you are stiff in that area. Bonus points!!! My body is sore again, I will call them first thing in the morning tomorrow if they take walk-ins. read more

I second every single thing that Mary M. (below me) says about Ron's massage. From what it sounds like, I had the exact same experience-- minus the boyfriend. Buy yes, I agree that Ron is AMAZING. I am a frequent massage-goer, and this is my first time "yelping" about a massage (because it was that good). Ron also spent nearly 90 minutes on me (despite my having paid for only 60mins through a HomeRun deal), and he reallly focused on the areas that I needed. I had the best night's sleep afterwards that I've had in months. Highly recommend LeeLaWaDee!!! I've had several massages in different parts of Thailand and all around SF, the US and world.. and the only other massage that has come close was in Miami. read more

I somehow hurt my back and couldn't sit on my chair at work. I yelped and found LeeLaWaDee Thai Classic Massage. They were booked, but, somehow, found a cancellation and squeezed me in. I was greeted by Ron. He is sure a lifesaver, as many other yelpers stated. He worked on all the issues I have (shoulders and back). He also worked on my legs. He said that the pain I currently have was from the pain on my shoulders and back radiating down to my legs. It is sure a painful massage session, but, it pays off at the end. I will be sure to come back to Ron from now on. Thank you. read more

I had the BEST massage with Chat today!! I literally turned into a rag doll and it felt great :) I was nervous going in after reading the reviews because it sounded like a really intense maybe even painful experience, but it wasn't. it was glorious!! I have never had such a great massage - the little bit of stretching combined with perfect pressure from his hands made the knots in my neck melt away. I really can't say enough about how great my massage was and Chat was very nice! He told me in the beginning to let him know if the hot pads got to hot or if the pressure was too hard. The hot pads did get a bit hot but he adjusted them right away when I asked and the pressure was perfect the whole time. He even checked in at one point to make sure it wasn't too hard. Really, really just a great experience and I can't wait to go back! read more

Ron is amazing. I started seeing him close to a year and a half ago and I will not go any where else. Ron always starts our session with helping me meditate and relax. I never feel rushed. He does not massage based on a timer he takes his time and really works on my body. I always leave feeling 100% healed and relaxed and without any tension. Ron's style is traditional Thai so he works pressure points, uses reflexology, stretching and breathing. He is amazing! I recommed Ron to anyone looking for real tension relief! He is totally affordable as well! read more

I get Massages off and on I found Ron through HomeRun and show up at a office and was Greeted by Ron and he was sharp person and show me room that was very nice with big bed and room smell like flowers and was very clean. He ask me to fill out form so could till where I wanted to be massage and then gave me pair terry cloth pants to where and came back when I was ready and work me over very good and stretch me out real good, when it was over I tip him because he did a good massage on me, I would tell my friends to use him to! read more

I recently got a Thai Classic Massage and the only way I can describe it is InTeNsE. Don't get me wrong, you really do feel great after this massage because your muscles get stretched, body kinks get ironed out, and basically, you get the crap beaten out of your body but in a therapeutic, beneficial way. Your masseuse will definitely massage/stretch you from head to toe and before you start your massage, you fill out a form to let him know if you have particular areas that you would like your masseuse to focus on, or avoid even. Everyone at Lee La Wa Dee is very nice and courteous. My masseuse had only been practicing the art of Thai massage for one year and I thought he was amazing. I can't imagine what a Thai massage would feel like from someone who has like 10+ years of experience! Lee La Wa Dee is located in an older SF building that houses the Philippine Consulate. The atmosphere feels a bit outdated and lacks that spa/relaxing kind of feel that typically comes with massage places. It almost feels like an office. Although the building is old, I think Lee La Wa Dee can change up their decor and set a more comforting ambiance. However, that won't stop me from returning to get another amazing massage! read more

Oh My God! I just came back from another massage after a long hiatus. I have been dealing with lower back issues after overdoing it with bike riding and dance classes. I injured myself a little over a month ago, and then again at work 1 week ago. This just might have been the best massage that I have EVER gotten. I feel like a million bucks. I've been getting so much chiropractic work and massages from other great therapists. But this exceeds them all. It was so extremely relaxing, and indulgent, but also Ron is amazing and understands the body, neuromuscularly wise and getting out knots that many other people could not. He was so attentive and thorough I wonder how he does not pass out from exhaustion each day, but he seems so genuine about his work, and is amazing at it. I bought two more massages that day, with a coupon for the future. He is a lifesaver. Yes, it is not for the faint of heart. Get ready for some pain, but it is only for seconds, and then later you will feel like someone with a new body. The hot packs do get hot, but just ask for them to be moved. It was impeccably clean and the nail salon is a lovely place to wait. This is one amazing business. read more

I had the best thai massage with Ron today. Not only was the massage wonderful, the whole experience was a delight. I was unknotted and knotted (once he started twisting me into pretzels) into positions I didn't think was possible. I felt like dough. I wanted to be more relaxed and muscles loosed for him, I felt like I gave him a workout. Thanks and for sure I'll be coming back again. read more

Ron is amazing! I had a pinched nerve in my neck and helped me back to life and never looked at the clock. He went over by thirty minutes because I was in pain. He is passionate about his job and takes it serious. I' just bought a package because I leave feeling fantastic. This is not for the wimps he is very strong and at times it hurts. But you will leave feeling amazing. I will only go here the others watch the clock and are not as strong. read more

The masseust Ron was a great experience. He kept on telling me before my 65-minute massage "this is going to be something new for you!" Boy was he right. Ron is a terrific masseust, tell him anything about your body in terms of pain and what hurts and he'll give a grand effort to try and help. He's welcome to people using groupon but be aware his availability is slim. Ron is simply just terrific. Thank you! read more

I had an absolutely epic massage from Ron. I receive a lot of massage - and this was top notch. My body felt totally worked and deeply, deeply opened. A few times he went a little deep for my comfort level and was immediately responsive when I asked him to lighten up. ( I would SO much rather ask a practitioner to ease up on the pressure than to want them to go deeper the whole session). And I LOVE the hot foot treatment! I also really appreciated Ron's meditation coaching! This is really unique and has the capacity to help me maintain my sense of ease and relaxation past the actual session. I bought a package and can't wait to go monthly! read more

Sweet for the price! I love massages - didn't really feel that much better after a 1 hour massage. Getting the massage felt fine though

The WORST Massage experience I have EVER had!!! SOOOOooo BADDD!!! Speaking from over 11 years as a professional therpist, 8 years teaching, and Internationally certified traditional thai massage therapist... Recieving hundreds of massages of all different types, many deep tissue, thai, rolfing, accupressure, reflexology, sports styles ect... First off, there was no receptionist to greet me. Only nail techs multi-tasking. 2ndly, my therapist was about 30 min late for the appointment so I had to request to reduce my time to 50-1hour do to time restrictions. No the HORRIBLE massage experience continues. I wanted a traditional classic thai massage, which I have had many in Thailand and the states. Yet, on this hot summers day, I was given a parafin foot wrap, which I just went with. Then got hot compresses on my already perspiring body. Then was given oil on my back which I didn't want. ***DANGEROUS CONTRAINDICATIONS of Massage Therapy to NEVER Commit!!!*** 1. NEVER HIT THE SPINE!!! ESPECIALLY WITH ELBOWS ***DANGEROUS*** (I lost track of how many times the elbow was dragged over, across, and directly on my vertebraes. IN THE FIRST 15 MINUTES) 2. AVOID THE RIBS AND OTHER BONY LAND MARKS ON THE BODY (I told the therapist in THAI language and ENGLISH that it hurt, pointing to my acromion process/spine/ribs) 3. NEVER, EVER, EVER!!! put DIRECT SHARP THUMB TIP, KNEE, or ELBOW PRESSURE ON ARTERIES TO BONE!!! NO, NO, NO!!! (There are are very specific arterial compression's done correctly with palms over brachial plexus, femoral artery, and even Aorta... Although, this therapist put elbow pressure directly over my brachial artery into my humerous, and direct knee pressure into my femoral artery into my femur!!!) ***Very DANGEROUS*** 4. ZERO INTUITION *** YOU CANNOT RUSH RELAXATION*** (The therapist had no healing intent, he was not responding to my body, I asked him to slow his techniques down several times, he was ABRUPT, ABRASIVE, SHARP, and TOO FAST) his response was, "you only want 1 hour, or you like strong pressure" 5. There is STRONG pressure, and then there's WRONG pressure (the therapist had no intuition, proper training, guidance of where or how to properly place compressions/ strokes ect.... ie. If I asked him to hit the broad side of a barn, he was throwing grenades in the chicken coop on the neighbors property! Almost every technique set was off kilter in terms that he was never on the proper location, ie. if he aimed for the back, I was getting hit in the ribs or the spine. 6. MY BALLS!!!! ***DO NOT HIT YOUR CLIENTS IN THE TESTICLES!!! GRRR!!*** (The therapist hit my in the scrotum sac at least a half dozen times with his FOOT compressions, I had to physcally pull them aside, while he tried to wave my hands away, I told him to slow down and be careful, and that he was hurting me, but he still wasn't getting it!) 7. PROFESSIONALLY CERTIFIED??? In thailand? In the US? I THINK NOT!!! (Being a certified massage therapy instructor in the US and Thailand, seeing that this therapist BROKE EACH AND EVERY CARNAL SIN AND CONTRAINDICATION KNOWN TO THE FIELD OF MASSAGE THERAPY just about.... I don't believe that this therapist has been LEGALLY certified to practice massage in the US or Thailand to be honest... if so... he needs to have his license revoked!!! (Although, the therapist had claimed to be doing this for 15 years professionally... I think that this place needs to be REVIEWED by the DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, and the BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU) MASSAGE COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!!!! Maybe 5% of the massage was ok... I have received innumerable thai massage, deep tissue, rolfing, sports massage, stretching.... My pain threshold is higher than I'd say 95% of typical massage clientel, I'm 6'2", athletic, and highly resilient... If these same techniques had been performed on others of poorer health, elderly, feeble, or having prior injuries, some serious damage could have been caused... ***(my Right shoulder was injured after receiving this massage fyi...***) The kicker!! ! #@ So, the therapist does the massage for about and hour 10 minutes, (when I asked for an hour, because I had somewhere to be), i'm now running late, he then charges me for 90 min, when he only did 80. I practically throw the money on the table and walk out... Didn't have time to gripe... but thank you for this opportunity YELP!! =) PS: The owner, or somebody, RON maybe? called apologizing for the massage starting late, and offered a FREE 30 min upgrade on my next massage there... *****REALITY CHECK****** I would rather be caught DEAD, than to come back to this facility!!! END read more

If you like Thai massages then you have to try Ron. If you've never had one then what are you waiting for? It feels great and the utility value is huge. I had a strained muscle in back that would not heal and after one hour, all better. I've been to other Thai places in town and I have to say that Ron is the most professional and really knows what he's doing. Plus, unlike most other places, you don't have to hear other people moaning and groaning around you. His use of hot towels, balms and instruction throughout the massage really help you feel better afterwards. read more

I felt like I was back in Thailand! Authentic Thai massage with the perfect combo of pressure-tension while relieving pains. Ron in a healer indeed! read more