Janesa is AH-MAZING. I was recommended to her by two friends (one who had her wedding makeup done and another who uses her for special events) and she did not disappoint. I needed someone to show me how to do on-camera makeup, outside, in the hot sun. Janesa was so easy to work with, great on communication, and super friendly and personal. We did the makeup lesson in her studio in Sunnyvale, which was pristine and had great lighting. She used professional sanitizing and I felt completely safe working with her. She gave me fantastic tips on the best methods and products to use, including a write up a makeup chart of my face, detailed instruction recaps, and recommended products. Her techniques were impeccable and looked great throughout the day. The total lesson last about 2 hours (a little bit more because we got carried away) and taught me so much I didn't know about makeup (and i watch A LOT of beauty youtube) Would highly recommend Janesa to anyone looking to look and feel their best! read more

One of my amazing friends put me in touch with (and lives with) Janesa for a 'makeup lesson' for a birthday present! I was excited for a month leading up to our session. I knew a little bit about makeup but wanted to learn tips and tricks that would work best for me. (Side note: makeup lessons make me nervous sometimes because I really don't know what I'm doing half the time!) Then the day arrived! Janesa was SO welcoming and sweet right off the bat. She asked me detailed questions of what I liked and disliked and things I knew and didn't know...I felt so comfortable. She allowed me to relax and just learn from her. Janesa gave me tricks for all types of makeup I was interested. She picked colors that I loved and other colors I loved but wasn't sure about. My skin felt flawless and so light/airy. Even taught me tricks that will save time and energy! We ended our lesson with a gorgeous plum smoky eye look - and everyone I saw afterwards were so amazed and loved it! I would recommend Janesa in a heartbeat, for any special occasion!! Thank you Janesa :) read more

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I recently had a makeup lesson with Janesa and it was by far the most detailed and best learning experience I've had with makeup. Janesa was very warm and welcoming and by looking at her own makeup application, I could tell I was in very good hands. Janesa taught me theory behind the technique, showed me exactly how to hold brushes and how to properly use a beauty blender. I am so much more confident in applying my makeup now that I know the theory behind it. She also helped me identify my face structure ie. cheekbones, brow bones, etc. which really helps in applying makeup. There was a lot of information to absorb however I did not feel intimidated at all. Post lesson, she provided a very detailed recap with product recommendations. I found this very valuable as I keep referring to it when putting on my makeup. I'm so happy I found Janesa. I cannot wait to have an application/lesson again in the in the future. P.S. I looked amazing at the ballet after our lesson :) Thank you Janesa! read more

I am not much of a yelper, but I am writing this because I want people to know how amazing Janesa is. Janesa has done my makeup twice, once for my graduation and once for Halloween, and last week my sister and I had a makeup lesson with her. On both occasions that she did my makeup, I received tons of compliments about my glowing skin, and I felt absolutely beautiful. The lesson was also incredibly helpful so that I can attempt to recreate her magic everyday. Janesa is unbelievably talented, and will make you gorgeous for whatever event. Also she is also the sweetest, most lovely person - an absolute pleasure to work with. read more

This review is overdue. I got so busy after the wedding but there was no way I was not going to tell you how AMAZING Janesa is. Her whole aura is calming, which is pivotal on your wedding day. I have problem skin and I wanted to have fresh dewey skin with more drama on my eyes and Janesa delivered on so many levels. My skin looked flawless which is hard because of teenage acne scars. I had hair extensions put in and she made my curls and hair look fabulous. When people ask me how my wedding day went I tell them about how I felt. I honestly felt like the prettiest woman in the room. How many times can a person say that and truly feel that. Let's hope every bride says that but you will for surely FEEL it, if Janesa is your makeup artist. read more

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I had my wedding this past weekend and Janesa made ALL my wedding makeup dreams come true! She wow'ed my entire bridal party, including all three Moms. I received compliments such as "radiant", "beautiful", "gorgeous" and "stunning" both in person and as comments to my photos...what more could a woman ask for? She is the perfect combination of a consummate professional, a warm and loving friend and make-up WIZARD! Like...WHAT?! I know that sounds crazy...but it's really true. I had referred Janesa to my girlfriend who got married in July, and she felt the same way. I found Janesa because of an earlier Yelp review that said, "Every bride needs a Janesa in her life.", but I up the ante and say, "Every woman needs a Janesa in her life!" read more

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This girl... you know she works wonders, when, as soon as she's finished with your look, you look at yourself in the mirror and yell out, "Ohhh damn!" I met Janesa just this past weekend, when she did the makeup for my best friend's wedding. I had emailed her a photo of my black and white dress prior to that day, and so we agreed on giving me a pop of color when it came to my makeup look. And did she do that! She totally made me feel so glam and vixenish. Looking at the mothers of the bride and groom, another lady in our bridal party, and of course, the beautiful bride herself- Janesa made already beautiful women even more stunning. And not just did she do amazing work on our faces, but Janesa is such an awesome person- so easy to talk to and laugh with. She's the kind of person you not only want to work with but also want to be friends with! I hope this won't be the last time I get to work with her! read more

Every bride needs a Janesa on her wedding day. Not only is she incredibly talented, but she is so fun to hang out with. She keeps the nerves calm and the faces pretty. When it comes to my style, I'd say I'm more on the "keep it natural" side of things. However, for my big day, I wanted something a little more but not so much that I didn't look like myself. I got exactly what I wanted. I felt beautiful and my husband was PUMPED! I look forward to working with Janesa again, and hope that all you brides out there get the chance to work with her, as well. read more

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This review is for Janesa's microblading services. I've trusted Janesa for many years with my makeup, and when I heard she was doing microblading I was quick to sign up. Prior to my service Janesa did a great job of explaining what the process would be, so that I would be fully prepared. She took the time to figure out how I preferred to do my brows, and I trusted her expertise on any advise she had for me. The total process was carefully executed, and I was comfortable the whole time (full discretion: I have been in a tattoo chair a few times so my threshold and pain expectation is slightly higher). My brows look beautiful and full. I had a follow up with Janesa where we made minor adjustments, and I couldn't be happier. They look very natural and have saved me valued time in my morning routine. Thank you Janesa! read more

Janesa is a true artist, the most talented makeup artist I have ever had the pleasure of working with, and an absolute gem of a person. I've had the opportunity to work with Janesa for hair and makeup for headshots, video shoots, and most recently I took a makeup lesson with her. For hair and makeup services, Janesa is simply amazing. She has a fabulous presence and a calm energy. She always manages to help people look and feel their best, nailing the perfect look. You, but better. The makeup lesson I did recently with Janesa was extremely helpful and informative. She took time to show me exactly which products to use, and "layered" the makeup lesson. She built up the look so I could do as much or as little as I have time for. She sent a thorough document with detailed instructions, product recommendations, and clear advice the next day. I highly recommend working with Janesa!! read more

I worked with Janesa for my wedding and am SO happy I did. She really listened to everything I wanted and had just the best recommendations for what would look right with my face shape, and even the time of day we were shooting. She was so sweet and flexible with my schedule. I am trying to find 100 other excuses to work with her, recommend BIG TIME for any occasion. Thanks for making me feel the prettiest I ever have Janesa! read more

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Love her!!! She creates a flawless look and has an eye for perfection...she makes you feel like a million bucks and you won't be able to live without her....I need her in OC!!! read more

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I had a terrible experience with a hair and make up artist prior to meeting Janesa. Just from that one bad experience I assumed I was doomed to look dumpy and frumpy on my wedding day. I found Janesa through my wedding planner, Events by Satra. After I reached out, Janesa set up a phone call prior to our HMU trial to get an idea of what I wanted before meeting (that's how bride-focused she is). Janesa heard me out and did her best to convince me that all hope was not lost, and I should have believed her (yes I am dramatic but it was that bad!). The trial rolled around and I met Janesa in her very clean and spacious make-up room. She had Jasmine there, a hair stylist to whom she will refer when the wedding day timeline is tight or there are a lot of services to perform. I say that I should have believed Janesa because she truly turned my pessimistic attitude around after the trial and on my wedding day. She is simply amazing at embodying "you, but better." I could not believe it was me in the mirror both of those days. She made me look appropriately done-up for my wedding, but in such a sophisticated and elegant way. In addition to being an absolutely genius make-up artist, she's also kind, funny, and very patient. I don't think I would be nearly as happy with my wedding if I had not found her. Jasmine the hair stylist is equally as impressive. I could barely explain what I wanted but she somehow pulled the vision out of my head and created it on my head perfectly. These women are a power team and I am so happy my event planner recommended them. If you are looking for someone to help you feel your most confident and beautiful when all eyes are going to be on you, I strongly urge you to book Janesa. You will not be disappointed. read more

Janesa is a gem! I had two other trials before finding her but I left each one feeling like my makeup was too heavy. Janesa focuses on enhancing your natural beauty and really listens to what you want. I left our trial feeling like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders. I knew I was in good hands! On my big day Janesa went above and beyond. She is more than a makeup artist, she is a friend. I will never forget what a calming force she was when things started to get hectic. She is sweet, fun to be around and professional all at the same time. I really enjoyed working with her and I cannot recommended her enough. Janesa, thank you for making me feel beautiful on my wedding day! read more

Janesa is the best! I was nervous about my wedding make up after getting it done in a make up store for my engagement photos. I felt like the engagement photo make up made me look older and neither my fiance nor I loved it. I shared my concerns with Janesa, and she made my skin look flawless. She listened to my preferences, highlighted my natural features, and I felt like me, but better! We tested out several lip colors, and I've continued to recreate my wedding lips whenever I go out. Janesa was great the morning of my wedding hanging out with my crew doing everyone's make up. I can't recommend her enough. Such tasteful style, boosts your confidence, and makes you feel like a million bucks. The compliment I kept getting all night and every time someone sees my photos is: "you look so glamorous - like a movie star!" read more

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Janesa is seriously the best makeup artist I've ever worked with. She is down to earth, super knowledgeable, and always makes me feel incredibly confident. I love how she teaches her clients about skincare and beauty during appointments; it's not just about the end product. I'm a professional opera singer and worked with Janesa before two different photo shoots. I loved my photos so much from my past shoot that I still use them 3.5 years later! Janesa also listens to your vision and always respects your taste (but I personally love how she encourages me to try new things and have fun!). Honestly, she's someone I know I'll work with for years to come, and you're doing yourself a HUGE favor by working with this incredible artist. read more

I decided to treat myself to having my make up done for a work holiday party. Janesa was phenomenal to work with. from having me share some photos of inspiration for make up to talking through with me how I wanted to feel to having me explore things that I had not thought of. The end result was spectacular. I received so many Complements and turned many heads. Thank you Janesa for having me look the way I wanted to feel, simply gorgeous! I will definitely be a repeat customer with Janesa. read more

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I think Janesa's makeup lesson was one of the best investments I have made. I was really nervous initially because my product, application and technique knowledge were so limited. Janesa was so welcoming and immediately made me feel comfortable sharing what *little* I know how to do when applying makeup and choosing products. She is truly a professional artist and it shows how much she loves and cares about what she does. She taught me so many tips and tricks that made an immediate difference. She has given me so much more confidence going into my makeup routine. I would recommend her to everyone. Thank you so much Janesa!!! read more

I took a risk working with someone I'd never met for my headshot makeup. I did a ton of research and crossed my fingers. Janesa was absolutely incredible, and I couldn't be happier! She is so thoughtful, fun, encouraging, and professional. She asked great questions and literally nailed it the look I needed! I can't speak highly enough! If you're in doubt, just book her, and you'll be happy you did! She makes you feel great and LOOK FANTASTIC! I'll be working with her in the future! read more

Makeup enthusiasts: your search ends here. I did my wedding makeup trial with Janesa last weekend and I cannot believe how lucky I am to have found her! Makeup is the one aspect I care most about for my wedding (you know, other than marrying my fiancee), and it's a serious hobby of mine. So I was worried I wouldn't be able to find an artist who I liked better than my own makeup. I did a previous trial and didn't like it, I thought because I was too particular. Turns out, I just needed Janesa on my team! She absolutely nailed my vision. My brows were neat and detailed, just like I requested, and looked even better than my inspiration photos. She worked with me to pick the eyeshadow colors, offering her professional opinions but leaving it up to me to decide. She prepped and primed my skin to give me the perfect dewy glow I wanted. My contour was in exactly the right spot and left me looking defined yet natural. The false eyelashes she brought were the perfect volume: full, yet still wispy and romantic. I explained what I wanted for lips and the color she chose for me was exactly right. I would not have changed a thing. I felt included and listened-to throughout the process -- she told me which brushes and products she was using, since she knew I was into makeup! (All of her products were super high-end and the best in the business.) Plus, she came at 7:30am to accommodate my schedule and at 9:30pm that night it still looked fresh and perfectly applied. Not only is the technique excellent -- the staying power is NEXT LEVEL. Exactly what every bride needs. On top of her impeccable makeup skills, she's such a stellar professional to work with. She showed up a couple minutes early to make sure we started right on time. She responds to emails and texts quickly and enthusiastically. She's funny and kind while doing her thing. Book Janesa and you will be eternally pleased with your choice!!! read more

She is an absolute gem! Not only is she super friendly and lovable, but her makeup skills are on point! She mastered the look I wanted for my wedding day and made my girls look like the true unicorns they are Janesa's on my speed dial for that little bit of magic I need when it comes to getting dolled up. Thanks love! read more

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I don't have many words to say about Janesa besides I adore her both personally and professionally. She did both my hair and makeup for a recent black tie event and I walked away feeling insanely beautiful and happy. So many of my colleagues commented on how amazing I looked and throughout the night I got so many compliments on my teal eyes and my hair. She is one in a million and any chance I get to have my makeup done, I would 100% use her again! read more

I'm not a big makeup wearer (skincare is more my thing!), but I was attending an event and needed some help. Janesa was recommended by a friend, and I've since booked her on two occasions when I wasn't comfortable fumbling my way through makeup application on my own. Each time Janesa has listened to me, understood my desire to look fresh, glowy and like myself, just a bit elevated. I now incorporate a couple of her tricks into my own routine when I wear makeup (one that makes my eyes look bigger and more awake!) She's so down-to-earth and will make anyone feel comfortable. I've always been hesitant to have my makeup done, but not anymore. I found the right artist who listens to me before working her magic. I've seen her stunning photos of bridal makeup, but she offers so much more than that. Can't wait for my next occasion to book Janesa! read more

I worked with Janesa for my wedding last month (she did my hair and make up) and I honestly can't say enough great things about her! She is truly a magician who made me look and feel like the very best version of myself for my special day - all while keeping me calm and relaxed throughout the process. She listened to every adjustment I wanted to make after my trial and executed it perfectly. Her makeup and beauty motto is "you but better" and that's truly how she made me feel. I got so many compliments and enjoyed every second of my experience with Janesa from the very first email communication to the last "body touch ups" before I walked down the aisle! She is THE BEST! read more

What is makeup. I like to keep it casual on my face but for my wedding I wanted to feel special, beautiful, and glam without making me look too different. I wanted just a more beautiful and vibrant version of myself. But because I'm not familiar with the industry, I ended up booking someone and thinking it'd all be the same everywhere. NO. I looked like what makeup looks like the next morning after you slept in it. There was no collaboration or guidance. It just didn't feel like she wanted to get to know my face or my style. I realized how important this was to me so I started asking around for recommendations. Thankfully, through a good friend, I found JANESA! Janesa is the makeup artist you want with you at all times. She's like your favorite dress you put on that fits perfectly and shows off your personality and your favorite features. She's simply just the best at what she does. Janesa is professional, sweet, fun, and she is an expert. It is clear she has so much wisdom and passion for her field. Everything from her questions, the ease of conversation, her ability to create a look (based off of multiple things like the pics I brought in, my personal style, and my wedding look so far), and her clean and organized tools, made the experience pretty great. I loved how I looked and, most importantly, I felt like a glamorous, beautiful and vibrant version of myself. This was all thanks to Janesa and her masterful vision and her rad skills! read more

I first tried Janesa for a friend's wedding, and all night was getting compliments specifically on my makeup. I knew immediately Janesa was the best person to also do my wedding makeup, and I was right. She brought an upbeat attitude, lots of love, and amazing talent. She was easy to work with leading up to, and on, my wedding day. My sister, who worked at the corporate office of MAC for many years and knows many makeup artists, said she would fly across the country just to have her makeup done by Janesa. Janesa truly is one of the best in the business as far as her skill, and is a beautiful person inside and out. It was an honor to have her be a big part of our wedding day. read more

Janesa is the absolute best! Before I even got to use her I recommended her to two of my friends getting married to do their wedding make up. They looked stunning. Luckily, I've also gotten my make up done by Janesa twice, and I can't wait for the next time. I seriously have never looked so pretty in my life. She is super professional, listens to what you want but also will tell you what you need. I looked like myself, felt totally comfortable with what she applied and it was easy to maintain. In fact, the makeup was so long lasting that even at the end of then night I looked as fresh as I did when I arrived! I wish Janesa could be my personal makeup artist, goals! Thanks, Janesa can't wait to use you again!! read more

Janesa has done my makeup on a few different occasions. Most recently she did my makeup for my baby shower. (Picture shown) End result exceeds my expectation every time. She is super timely, professional, and brings all of her own tools (brushes, makeup, eyelashes) I highly recommend her. She can do anything from super crazy and dramatic, to super soft and sophisticated. Janesa is simply the best. read more

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Janesa did my makeup for a costume party- I was a mermaid! She was super responsive and texted with me to set up a time for her to come over. She is so creative and talented and gave me lots of different options/directions we could take my mermaid makeup. An absolute professional and miracle worker! She knows ALL the tricks. read more

If you are reading this review, your search is over!! I hired Janesa to do the makeup for my wedding after receiving some recommendations from individuals well connected in the fashion industry. Needless to say, she did not disappoint! Everyone looked gorgeous, including the mother of bride and mother of the groom who were both a bit apprehensive about getting their makeup done. I also went with the plan that also included the pre-wedding consultation, which I am glad I did. It made the whole process the day of the wedding smooth and Janesa was able to fine tune the look. This girl can do it all...any event, any look. I would hire her again in a heartbeat! read more

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Janesa did the make up for the bridal party for my friends wedding. I was one of the bridesmaids and thought she did an amazing job! Shes also has a great personality and makes sitting in a chair for 45 minutes fun! She made me feel and look beautiful. I really like that she brought the eyelashes and even a lip scrub! She had everything and some extra products for the bride. The bride was STUNNING I could definitely see why she chose janesa and I'm so glad she did! read more

Janesa is one of those rare individuals who not only takes pride in her job but she truly cares about her clients and making them look their best for any occasion! I first met Janesa two years ago when I moved back to SF and she helped me get ready for my headshots for my new job and I completely loved the way my makeup turned out. When it came down to selecting someone to do my sisters makeup (and her bridal party) there was no question that we would hire Janesa for the job! She made the day so incredibly fun and everyone looked so fabulous when she was done! I highly recommend Janesa for anything you need beauty related and she will make you look beautiful! read more

It's not easy being my Make Up Artist. And Janessa is so effortless at it. I keep presenting her with new Challenges and she continues to meet each challenge and knock it out of the park every single time. Each time I book an appointment with her I send her my inspiration or a photo of my outfit. If I'm going to a themed event from a period she will do research, pull out paintings from the era and come up with a modernized version of the make up. I always leave her chair with boosted confidence and a big smile. The inside joke is every time she does my make up we declare it the best she has ever done. To top it off she has a wonderful personality. She makes you comfortable in her chair and she is a joy to be around and has a million dollar smile the whole time she spends with her client. As I told her once she is not a good make up artist; she is a great Make Up Artist. read more

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Where to even begin?! Janessa is not only a phenomenal make up artist, but she is a gem of a human. (Which is really important for someone who is going to be an inch from your face for potentially an hour!) The first time Janessa did my makeup was my best friend's wedding day, and I had food poisoning. Not only was she incredibly empathetic and patient when I got waves of nausea, but she did such a *gorgeous* job with my make up that no one had any idea I was VERY under the weather. I've never gotten so many compliments! I have reached out to Janessa when I needed to pick new makeup products because she always takes the time to give thoughtful recommendations that make sense for my skin and my style. She is a true makeup professional, and knows her products and tools, etc. She will forever by my top pick for special occasion make-up services. Did I mention she's hilarious? That is all. read more

I had the honor of working with Janesa for my wedding day, bridal shower, and engagement photos and never have I been so spoiled!! Janesa really understood what I wanted and what would look best with my features to enhance them. I can honestly say I was blown away by how beautiful I felt. All of my bridesmaids looked #flawless as well. The makeup stayed all night, didn't feel heavy or costume-like but the best part was getting to know Janesa :) THANK YOU! read more

Janesa is the best! did my makeup for my best friend's wedding, and i felt beeeeaautiful all night! she listens to what you want and doesn't make you feel (or look) like a different person with the full face of makeup. read more

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I called Janesa my wedding genie and mean it! With all the craziness of planning a wedding, it was a relief to know that my make-up was in the best hands with Janesa! Of all the choices you have to make when planning a wedding, I wouldn't hesitate for a second on booking Janesa! I consider myself a make-up aficionado so had high standards and she surpassed them. Was a great idea to book a make-up trail so we could get to know each other and walk through what kind of look I wanted (glowy natural exotic goddess, yes!), which ended up being especially important because I didn't expect I would be so distracted/stressed the day of the wedding. Janesa was a calming presence and energy on top of being a fantastic make-up artist; even came ready with aromatherapy, that's legit calming! She also did AMAZING make-up for both mom's who never usually wear make-up. I've never seen my mom look and feel so fantastic, makes me SO happy Janesa brought out her beauty! And delighted both my sisters with their gorgeous looks, and even went out of her way to squeeze one sister in last minute (you try to plan, right?!). Everyone looked amazing and we all received so many compliments the day of on how beautifully naturally glowy we all looked and not overdone. Can't say enough good things about Janesa!! This is the easiest decision you'll have to make. read more

I had the pleasure of meeting Janesa as a make up artist at my best friend's wedding. I instantly fell in love with her energy, knowledge, and attention to detail. I've been in at least 6 weddings as a bridesmaid or maid of honor and this was the first time a make up artist (MUA) has asked me questions about how I wear my make up on a day to day basis, what my skin is like at the end of the day, what look am I going for. And because of that investment in the beginning, my make up was FANTASTIC! I could not gush enough about how wonderful I felt. Above and beyond I would give her 10 STARS if I could!!! her motto of #youbutbetter rings so true! I got so many compliments on my eye make up alone. I was also in love with the way she did my lips, foundation, cheeks and fake lashes-- so light and perfectly placed I didn't feel them at all! When I speak with my girlfriends who had their make up done by her at the wedding (I am filipino and we were a mix of light and darker skinned Caucasians and Persian ladies), she was able to use her vast knowledge of skin types, skin color, blemishes, and apply it to make us all look flawless. We gushed over our make up at the reception!!! Based on that experience I rapidly hired her for 2 events I had planned this summer: a Facebook Live nationally aired and then a CNN interview. She understood the lighting and feel that I had for these events (selfie ring light for celebration and then harsh office lighting for more serious interview), played up my features and my dress color, and made me feel so comfortable. I live in San Jose so she commuted 1hr in morning traffic to get me prepped. She showed up on time if not early, happy and energetic-- such a blast to be around!!! The make up was right on point, she checks in frequently, highlights what you would like, and gives small tips that are not overwhelming and I can apply to my daily make up application. I guarantee you WILL NOT be disappointed with Janesa's make up artistry. I wish I had more events to hire her for! I'm hesitant to write such an awesome review in hopes she isn't booked the next time I have an event! I believe in Janesa and her work, high applause! read more

Janesa made me feel like Beyonce, just fabulous. She knows her skin tones how to play with color to make you look your best. Not only that but she is just a lovely, positive person. Can't wait for the next time I need make up done, i will surely reach out to her. read more