Labor Day Weekend 2021 - Everything is open! I came on a whim of intuition, with tent in tow, that my 3.5 he drive from the city might, just might result in a walk-up campsite for one or two nights. At first I was turned away because I was too late- all the available sites had been given away before 3pm. However, I stayed curious and asked some extra questions about how the walk-up system worked in the event I would try again the next day. To my luck, the park attendant said to come back in a couple hours because I might get lucky with some later call backs... and 4:30pm lucky I got!!! I did have a backup plan- that I would head to Wildwood on North Fork which had plenty of availability if I couldn't get a spot at Hither Hills. Everything was open- even the kitchen making egg sandwiches and salads in the General Store. Lifeguards on the beach. Beach stand selling alcohol. Showers and restrooms all open, and very clean. I stayed in the A section of the campground, which has the most sand on the lots, and backs up to the dunes, which was exactly what I wanted/needed. The campsites don't have electric, but there is a water spout in the middle of some sections. The bathrooms are never too far and the showers are clean. There are some electrical outlets in the bathroom for things like hair dryer and electric razor, or for me, charging a battery pack while I shower, brush my teeth, and do my hair. The beach on this weekend was pristine and perfect. Despite hurricane Ira moving through only days earlier, after the storm, the beach at Hither Hills had barely any debris or carnage and just smooth waves and perfect weather for a long holiday weekend. I didn't bother bringing a cooler or camp stove because I was just one person and there are plenty of restaurants and bars and cafes around to visit by car during the day- and that's part of the fun for me (and every yelper?!?)- exploring local food options! I also really enjoyed visiting the East Hampton library to pick up some free books, get WiFi connected, and recharge phone battery during the day. You definitely won't find a cheaper stay in the Hamptons or Montauk unless you're invited to someone's beach house!! read more

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Genie helped us check in and was INCREDIBLE. She was so kind and friendly and helped us get situated once we arrived. We were new to the campground and she helped us with how to set up our fire as well. She really made our whole experience 100x better. Thank you Genie!! -J12 read more

An amazing campsite. No trees over our campsite, so minimal danger in the case of wind or rain. You can hear the waves from your tent and can take a short walk and see the water for yourself. The cleanest bathroom I've seen at any campsite. Amazing staff too, especially Skylar who was extra helpful when I visited last year. The only downside (though some would consider it an upside) is that the cell reception on site is almost non-existent. If you really need it, taking a short walk from the campsite can help a lot. read more

Beautiful beach spot on the ocean. We strictly came for beach, not for camping. Bring everything you need, because the general store isn't open and neither is the beach snacks/sundries stand. I'm guessing due to Covid. They have clean bathroom & shower facilities, so if you're driving out East for the day you can clean up before you go somewhere else. Very peaceful, pristine beach. Saw a whale breaching while here. Lived on Long Island my entire life have never seen that before. Had a great day here. read more

Trust me, I checked online, you will not have wifi and not for the "park" to provide but just your regular phone, I got an SOS signal and I have AT&T and a T-Mobile Inseego mifi, nope don't play around. I drove 3 hours hoping to have a nice cool mini break for the week from NYC proper. I had to immediately turn around and head home, the lady who checked me in, said that if I wanted wifi I'd have to head to town, that they are and I quote, "In a dead zone" Never have I ever encountered this and I've been up into Canada and down to the Keys, nooooooo signal? Not the park's fault, but not posting it somewhere so that you can make a choice, rather than lose a week's worth of a reservation that's on them. And I see in other reviews that there are no lights, I don't remember seeing any, so when the sun goes down it's a wrap! Good luck, I normally take pics so I can share and check out the facilities but I didn't have enough time I had to head back to civilization. To be honest, it looks like a barren parking lot, go check another review for amenities and such. All that way, jeeze! read more

The good reviews I have read about the park are truly right. It was entirely different if you experienced it, there is more to it. This state park campground is the flagship of all NY state camping grounds, the only beach front in downstate and a family friendly one. We'd been to different campgrounds but this is the BEST i'd been to. FIrst of all, there are no BEARS to worry about, no need to keep in the vehicle during nights food left-overs or any pantry things ( provided it is not raining!). The beach is few feet away- we were located in a corner spot,third row from ocean side of the mid-east part of the park. The lot before us was vacant in which gave us a good view of the pathway to the beach. When i was making the reservation, our site was one of the four sites left for the reason it was facing the shower room and garbage disposal area. Oh well, i found the site convenient after all. Can you imagine charging your phone in the shower/comfort house, left it there and come back every 5-10 minutes easily? Definitely, it's a plus during cooler nights too., has very convenient access. The house overhead light made me feel secured and safe. It was invigorating to see stars during the quiet nights. The sound of the ocean and its breeze during sleep time were an experience you wont forget on this trip. A security patrol was roaming around even late wee hours by the way. Since it is an open ground campground, make sure you bring with you a canopy to cover the picnic table provided or use it over your tent or bring an extra tarp as a sun shade. Don't be intimated with the majority RV's campers.... there are plenty of tent campers too. Luckily, we were in the corner and kinda sort had our own privacy space. Bathrooms are clean and the showers water temperature is fine. There is a general store that sells mostly of the basic needs, even serves cooked meals and cold drinks, has plentiful snacks too ....pricey though. Town is not far .... you could drive to get any missed items from what you have packed from home. Making a reservation takes a lot of planning as it is easily filled up , it has 9 months window prior the planned date. Be on their site as early as 8 am if you need to get a spot on particular date/s. It is a on First come , first serve service. It is a required "week" reservation during mid-June till mid fall. Other than that, you could reserve by number of days. The state park is open to public too for those who are not camping..... 8-4 pm, $10 vehicle fee and has access to the beach, picnic ground and the playground. It has a good location, off by the Old Montauk Highway. Proximity to tourist attractions is close. It is a good and reasonable place for any get-away and vacation. Highly recommended. What an amazing memorial weekend camping experience we had. Definitely coming back. read more

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Growing up on Long Island, for some reason, Montauk always felt like a million miles away, even though my hometown of Huntington is really "just" a two hour drive (minus crazy weekend traffic) away. There are a million and one points of interest on your way out to "the end" (literally) of this loooooooong island, but on our recent trip out east, we DEFINITELY didn't want to miss this WONDERFUL park, and neither should you!! Come here to swim, surf, soak up the rays, camp (I hear it's a year or more to MAYBE get a reservation...) and get away from the traffic, strip mall, overpopulated MESS that is all/most of the rest of Long Island!! It's a HIKE from just about anywhere on the island, but sooooo worth it!! You really DO feel like you're in another world here, a world that will live on in great memories, awesome views and pictures, and TONS of sand in every nook and cranny!! Use your Empire Pass for free entry if you have one (thank to my sister who loaned us hers!!) come early, bring a lunch--- the snack bar on the beach and the small cafeteria in the gift shop aren't that inspiring-- and ENJOY!! We'll be thinking of you back here in Ohiooooooo, just WISHING our biggest problem was too much sand in every nook and cranny!! ;-) read more

When I was a teenager I would walk the dunes at Hither Hills State Park. They would plant poison ivy everywhere to hold the sand from eroding. Being from Brooklyn, I didn't know anything about poison ivy. Until that summer.... My family in the 80s had a house in "The Hamptons". Now clear your mind for a second. Montauk has absolutely has nothing to do with the "The Hamptons". Its a completely different world when your driving on Montauk highway and seeing nothing but pine trees. Sure there are tool bags from NYC with popped collared pink Polo shirts that go to a few roadside bars but for the most part Montauk belongs to families and beach goers. There are great camp grounds as well as the best part, if you find a place in town you can park on the side of the road by the beach with no worries. The beaches here at Hither Hills State Park are world class. When we're here, its so transforming. It feels like another state. There are so many things to do, walking, swimming and camping. One of my favorite all time beaches, I can't wait to go back with my family this summer. The parking lot cost $10 from 8-4pm read more

Positively gorgeous. I have never been out this far on Long Island before, thinking it was all hype, but I am now a believer. Check out my pictures. They have camping here... and tetherball-- which should be outlawed! It's more dangerous than it looks in Napoleon Dynamite! read more

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Best place in the whole world. The staff rocks and keeps the place spotless and running smoothly. And so well managed. I hope it stays this good forever. read more

Just returned today from a blissful weekend camping here. The site: each site has a concrete slab with a picnic table on it. I highly recommend purchasing a canopy to put over it. (I got one at Walmart). The shade helps a lot on a hot day. Plus, you can hang your beach towels/ towels on it to dry. Our site was against the hill behind us which was nice because you get more privacy. Just have to watch out for ticks. Bathrooms are clean and the showers were fine. The best part was listening to the waves come in while you fall asleep at night. Plus, when the moon is not out, it's like a planetarium. Super awesome star watching. You will need to bring a grill if you plan on using a tent and not an R.V. We explored the West loop too. Just to compare everything, very kid friendly. There is a store to get coal, ice and other stuff, but super expensive. We went out to dinner Saturday night in Montauk. We took our cooler with us and just stopped at a gas station to fill it up with more ice. Definitely check this place out. read more

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Simply love this place. Clean. Peaceful and beautiful beach. Campsite is well maintained. Sites are good size. Easy access to beach. read more

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I love Hither Hills and have been staying there every summer for forty years. The beach is fabulous, the other camper nice and there is always something going on in Montauk or other surrounding towns. Unfortunately there has been a policy change the camp Manager Tom made in violation to rules put out by the state. According to NYS rules, if site is abandoned for more than 24 hours, it will be released to walk-ons. Tom decided he didn't want the hassle and refused to release this sites. The day I was out there trying to get a walk-on site, I counted at least 15 sites not being used in just on section. Other campers around the sites told us they were empty for days. This is a shame because New Yorkers were denied the opportunity to enjoy the facilities. I was turned away after a three hour drive and being told by friends how empty the grounds were. Think twice before attempting to get a walk-on site unless the camp management reverts back to the actual rules in the state handbook. PS - The main bathrooms by the beach were dirty all day long. I used the facilities multiple times from 8:30 AM to 6:30 PM. - and they were never cleaned. This is the main bathroom and the changing room fro the beach. It used to be kept as clean as possible considering the sand users bring in regularly! read more

Great spot for beach camping! Beautiful beach and campsites are clean and well cared for. Shower facilities could use an update but are very clean. Short drive to town with lots of shops and restaurants. The general store is stocked with ice and other necessities-milk, butter, eggs etc. I would have given five stars but the road is very close to campsites and can be noisy at night. Otherwise an awesome experience overall! read more

Hither Hills State Park - Beach - Parks Near Me - Montauk, New York

UPDATED: APRIL 7, 2011 This one of the MOST AWESOME state parks in New York State. You have to like camping out on or near the beach/ocean, and you will love this one. YOU MUST , absolutely MUST reserve a spot a minimum of nine months in advance here or you will not get a spot. The only exception to this is if you have a tent (not an RV) and you call on the day you want to arrive --mid-week. You will never get a weekend spot here without a nine-month in advance reservation. Is the wait worth it, YES. This is worth it. It is a most excellent park, mostly beach, camp out right at the water or nearby. (Bring plastic bags or boating bags; it is very humid. Everything in your tent will be quite damp if you go there after or near a storm day). They have everything here and a gorgeous ocean, camp store, gulls, kiddie playground, restrooms, showers, lifeguards, and totally wonderful scenery. Can't explain why it is awesome, but know that you need to register almost full nine months ahead of time because this place is so very popular. On a scale of zero to ten, this place rates a big, huge 100! read more

If I was to choose a favorite state park for camping out, this would be the one in New York State. First, it's in the Hamptons, so that's a plus. Under $28. per night for camping out there and you are not far from the main streets, (a short ride). Bring your bikes. (Ask first). There's a small playground right there for the little kiddies. You can camp out feet from the ocean. Concrete foundation to put your tent on, picnic tables, what more could you ask for? The "store" in the park sells everything you may have forgotten at home, including food, clothing, and what nots. The ocean breeze is the best prize of this camp. There is sand, ocean, and everything else for perfect camping! Go Hither Hills! OH, just one down side, you MUST make reservations over nine months in advance, if you are camping with an RV . You might be able to get less of a month's wait if you camp out by tent, but always call ahead of time. read more

Absolutely loved camping here in August and have plans to camp here again before the season ends (in November). Campgrounds are right on the beach with views of planets on clear nights and sounds of the waves crashing as you sleep. At night, if you choose to do so, you can take a nice, private stroll on the pristine beaches. The bathrooms are clean with hot water and although the general store wasn't open, we were able to purchase firewood from the camp office. As other reviewers have mentioned, L.I. is seeing an uptick in ticks (pun-intended) so prepare for that. While we didn't see any on the campgrounds, I found one on my partner while we were hiking on a nearby trail. The little town of Montauk is a 10-15 min drive away and there are a few cute coffee, food, and clothing shops that were still open during COVID. I'm not sure what the town looks like as the weather gets colder, but I will update my review when we visit again during their off-season :) read more

It's a pretty little park. There is the west overlook which we watched the sunset. It was a gorgeous unobstructed spot with views to the ocean too! read more

Hither Hills State Park - Sunset - Parks Near Me - Montauk, New York

No shoes, no shirts, no problems...at hither hills! My family goes camping every June at Hither Hills. It is an awesome destination if you enjoy "trunk camping". Meaning not too rugged, but still camping. Don't be scared to camp out... the facilities are the cleanest I have ever seen in a state park, showers, bathrooms spotless! Our weekend consists of lots of booze, a small radio to play some jimmy buffet & bob marley, tents, mitts, food, ice, bikes, and some comfy camp chairs! This is the kind of weekend that we can't wait for all year. It's a chance to kick back and leave your worries at home! It's in a great location too! Take some time to visit the town of montauk and especially the lighthouse. There are trail rides near by, awesome island country stores in town too. A trip to hither hills is a long island must! read more

Most beautiful and well kept campgrounds on long island. Always a good time! The only problem is so many people know how great this campground is that you have to book your campsite almost a year in advance. (Although I must say that when me and my boyfriend rode our bikes 110miles and didn't book a campsite they gave us great campsites for 3days.) They also hold different events and movie nights to keep kids entertained...if they are not already having enough fun camping on the beach. Forgot to bring enough sunblock or woke up hungry...they have a convenience store/grill open from like 7am til about 7 or 8pm. No summer is complete without going here. read more

I came here for a weekend camping trip right after peak season with my dad. The campsite was easily accessible by SUV, we backed in with our camping equipment and pitched our tent. They just opened a campsite called J Loop behind the main campgrounds. It was an open campsite, meaning there were low barriers between where each group stayed, so you could essentially see everyone in the campsite at all times. There were great amenities, toilets, vanities, slop sinks, and showers. One thing we learned is that there are no open fires allowed, so you need to bring a grill or something that is elevated off the ground to have a campfire. We used a cheap charcoal grill we bought at the IGA in Amagansett. We made a couple stops there over the course of the weekend. We went to the beach and the lighthouse as a day trip. Overall a great experience Would recommend. read more

This is one of the best beaches on Long Island in my opinion. I go here at least once a year every year! It's a great beach, always clean, great facilities and I love that you can lounge on the beach but also pack up and take a hike in the Hither Hills Overlook woodland trails. This is located separately from the beach area. You can really make a whole day out of it. We usually go to the beach, then take a drive into the town for lunch, then go back to the overlook area park and go into the trails. ** If you do go into these trails watch for ticks! Check yourself before you leave, these ticks can be extremely tiny so check yourself thoroughly before going home and or bring bug spray that's your best bet. The beaches are always clean and I love that towards the end of summer there are less people so it's not as crowded as peak tourist season. It's a great park with a lot to offer! Camping, Hiking/Biking Trails, Beach, Picnic Tables, Showers, Fishing. Check the nys park website for a full list at this link! http://www.nysparks.com/parks/122/amenities-activities.aspx read more

Just spent such a wonderful weekend camping at Hither Hills! Absolutely gorgeous and well kept campgrounds. General store has everything you need or forgot at home. Bathroom/shower facilities are clean. Police patrol at night so you feel safe. Family friendly. The beach here is stunning, rivaling California. Perfect getaway from the city. Be careful of tics.. check your significant other very well :) read more

Ditto to all the good reviews about the park. It's a special place to camp... except for the TICKS. As much as it pains me to say it, don't think we'll be coming back here. There were so many ticks, it just made the experience less fun, having to check the family and worrying that somebody was going to get bit every 5 minutes. read more

Another beautiful spot on the way to Montauk to park and eat, sit and enjoy the peace, walk the beach or hike. Check out the scenic overlook right off of Montauk Highway; very pretty. We didn't spend a whole lot of time here, but we did find it to be a very pretty and peaceful place to sit and have lunch. read more

My most recent vacation to Hither Hills was awful. My kids (5 & 7) and I were riding bikes in the evening and came across a group of kids in their mid twenties, playing games and singing songs. Their site was diagonal to ours, maybe 300 feet away. At first I thought my kids were bothering them and I went over to escort them back to our site. However, I began speaking to the young men and women on the site, and learned that the majority of them were teachers, and they were enjoying playing games with my kids. They even had Disney songs playing on their radio for them! I was ecstatic, as I rarely get any free time to my husband. Plus, they were within view of us, so that I could still keep an eye on them. They were with them well into the evening, and even wanted to eat with the "big kids," as they called them. They sat around a fire and had smores while having a sing-a-long. It was perfect! Unfortunately, the fun ended there... At what I believe to be exactly 10pm, two officers pulled up at an excessive speed (must have been doing at LEAST 40mph!) and nearly hit one of my kids! I ran over to see what was going on and found of the young adults were being evicted from the site. I was curious as to why, being that they had been nothing but respectful and courteous to my family and the officer berated ME! He must have thought I was with them, but he told me that the neighbors were complaining and "we" had been given enough warnings and he was "done with us." I was upset with the tone he took with me, especially with my kids so close, but it only got worse. Officer Greene got out of his car and took out a flashlight. The young adults asked him if they could go to sleep and leave in the morning, and he "nicely" demanded they leave immediately, despite recent alcohol consumption. When I say he "nicely" told them, I mean his demands were riddled with swears, and my only regret is that I did not have a camera present to record his profanity. My kids began crying and I had to bring them back to my tent with the husband. The last thing I heard the cop say was "I don't care where you go or how you get there, that's not my fucking problem," In reference to the fact that some of them had been drinking. We went back to my site and I felt like I too was going to cry. In all of my years attending Hither Hills, or any other establishment, I never saw this kind of disrespect from the "authority." How could someone of power abuse guests this way? And with children present?? I am still sickened as I write this, nearly three weeks later. The very next morning I visited the other neighbors of the site that the young adults stayed on. Had they really been out of hand and I had not noticed? EVERY SINGLE neighbor said they had been respectful and had not made any complaints. In fact, two other sites also noted that they were over enjoying themselves earlier that afternoon. Granted, I cannot guarantee that these people did not call, despite what they say. However, nearly all of the sites noted the officers and their disrespect. My husband and I have very little vacation time, and we have always chosen to spend it at Hither Hills. This experience was far out of the ordinary for us, and a complete disappointment. For $101, we could have stayed anywhere, but chose Hither Hills. However, with this recent experience behind us, I think we'll have to look elsewhere in the future. We have years of great memories at Hither Hills, that are not tarnished by two officers with egos. I refuse to bring my family to a vacation spot where myself, my family or my neighbors will be berated. Is that really how these officers are taught to solve problems? By cursing and antagonizing guests? These guests were nothing but polite to the officers, who continued cursing and belittling them. After witnessing how the officers treated them, and how polite the guests were in response, that the officer viewed this as an opportunity to abuse his power, as he looked like he was the same age as the guests. Officer Greene lacks tact and is more suited for a desk job, pushing papers instead of working with the public, as he is completely incapable. I will no doubt be sharing my experience with fellow friends and campers of the Hills that we have made over the years. Additionally, I will be forwarding this letter read more

Hither Hills State Park is the most wonderful summer spot ever. I love coming here to stay with my cousins who camp here throughout the entire summer. They have been camping here for over 28 years. I love coming to visit because it really is the most relaxing summer spot for a very reasonable weekly rate. It's 28 a day during the week and 32 a day on the weekend. I always feel safe when I am there. The speed limit is about 5 MPH and cars rarely drive around the campsite. Kids run around and ride their bikes throughout the day and as a whole the vibe is really friendly and relaxed. You obviously have to learn how to camp. My aunt is an expert and she produces amazing meals from their camper. You wake up to the sound of the waves, what's better than that? There are public restrooms and places to charge your phone. There is a store on site with coffee, food, toiletries, ice cream and other goodies. They show movies at night as well. The camp sites have a cement area to place a tent for eating. It really is an awesome place to vacation! read more

A rip off with rude staff. They charge $10 to park for the day to use a few picnic tables. Another car was blocking a "no pets" sign as we drove in but the lady taking tickets didn't bother telling us this despite seeing our dog in the backseat. As soon as we parked and stepped out of the car with our dog, she cane walking over screaming at us. We quietly got back in our car and on the way out requested our $10 back. We were told "no refunds." There are plenty of beautiful beaches and campsites in the area, don't waste your $$ and time with this ripoff with rude disrespectful employees. read more

The beach at Hither Hills is very nice and one of the few places in eastern Long Island where you can park at the beach without needing a resident parking permit. The parking fee is only $10, the walk to the beach is quick, and there is a small snack stand. What more do you need? The park also has camping, and it looked like a lot of people were taking advantage of that. Some of the sites are literally next to the sand dunes - very cool place to take a weekend camping trip. read more

Full of RVs obstructing the view, lots of people just residing there so it is not a camping vibe. Just people waking ip early to work and lots of empty rvs. Very outdated playground. Beautiful clean new bathrooms though. I do t know if i would go back. read more

Birthday celebration at the beach at hither hills. The concession stand in the back w the tables had the sweetest counter girl who took pride in her job. Food was better than expected considering it was a concession area and not a restaurant. Fries were better than those we had this afternoon at the Lobster Roll. Picked up 2 cute pairs of shorts for my son's girlfriend at the shop. The beach was clean, quiet and the water was clean with some waves between 4 and 6 feet. Bonus parking here means you're covered at the lighthouse in Montauk, too. Looking forward to coming back to camp here with the family. read more

The worst camping area ever, No energy-water, nobody helps u in the entrance, no signs about where the campers should go, really bad experience, beatiful beach, but bring a camper there is the worst idea. read more

I've never camped here, so this review is for their beach. It's pretty clean which is all you really need from a beach. You won't find crystal clear waters here, but it's one of the best I've seen on Long Island. read more

My family has been going to Hither Hills since 1968. I cannot wait to introduce my granddaughter next week to this tradition. It has changed over the years, they now have hot showers. The play round for the children is beautiful and well maintained. It is a great place to sit and read, bike ride, go for a walk, and leave your tent, walk over the sand dune and swim in the ocean. I cannot wait to square dance with my family. read more

First time to HHSP in early July 2020. Heed my call when I say prepare for TICKS, read the other reviews to hear how beautiful the park is. Prior to my trip I did see a few reviews from 3-5 years back stating the tick situation but did not pay them much mind. Our site A002 had sandy soil with low grass. Daily we were spotting 5+ ticks on the inside and outside of our tent, on towels that fell on the ground and immediately picked up, even waiting on our metal beach chairs. I would have to visually inspect everything I was going to use that had contact with the ground. A few of us picked ticks off our clothes but luckily none had embedded into skin. We lived in the smell of DEEP WOODS insect repellent at the beach which was slightly ironic. Some quick reading online turned up that ticks are booming on Long Island. I'll have another year to contemplate returning as the site booking window for 2021 was opened and it is completely filled. read more

Pack up the blankets, food and camera. This is a magical place to be.

ask scot.... cause too many tents does not mean spread out tents. but spread out tents should not compare to too too many tents because too many tents is too many tents. but why spread tents when the number of tents is below too many tents? These are a few of the many questions i have for scot. read more

This campground is jam-packed in the summer because it is the most affordable lodging option on the South Fork for people seeking a beach vacation. Reservations have to be made months in advance for a spot in the high season. Sites are generally clean, the general store is convenient, and the restrooms are for the most part kept in good order. Plus you are only a hundred yards from the Atlantic Ocean. Unfortunately it does attract some people who are less interested in camping and more interested in partying. Especially beware of camping in the all-tent loop on the eastern side of the park, where the entrance gate is not staffed and where people can sneak in extra campers and cars onto their campsite. On a recent visit one group of "Jersey Shore" cast wannabees lit a sky lantern that sailed into our tent while our daughter was sleeping in it. The tent could have very well gone up in flames; thankfully the tent was only damaged by their carelessness. If you know what you're getting into this is a very good place to camp, but if you seek more quiet lodgings you'd best look elsewhere and stay away from Montauk. read more

This place is fantastic. I went with my family for a week and stayed in tents,most people were in campers. We had a great time.beach was great,bathrooms and showers were a little old but clean most of the time. Definitely going again next summer. read more

Great place to camp!!!!!! The only way to get closer to the beach is if you are sleeping on it!!!!!! But it is very hard to get a site!!!