I stopped in today to test drive a car from this dealer with all these greattt reviews. The car was in okay but in worse shape than appeared in the pictures (not out of the ordinary). They gave me the keys and let me test drive the car on my own with no sales pressure (pretty decent). Car had an odd carfax history (second owner only drove it 2k a year), had some aftermarket junk electronics, and had been bought at auction, and had been sitting on the lot for 4 months. So I figured I might be able to get an okay deal on an okay car. I've bought auction cars before, and can do 90% of car repairs on my own (brakes, struts, plugs, oil, etc) so Id give it a look.
When it came to negotiate price, the experience went way down hill. I had to talk price with a guy at the front counter, didn't even go into an office, or have a chair to sit on. Weird especially because I was literally the only customer I saw the entire time I was there. First question "finance or cash" The car was listed for 15 and change, offered 13k cash (right in between retail and trade in price) as a starting point. The guy got very upset,"no no our prices are fixed. we cant even buy them for that, especially with winter coming and all wheel drive, with that mileage and navigation. we only mark our cars up 5-7% so were not anywhere close, thanks for coming in"
I shook his hand and walked out.
A few things:
1) 2004 Nav systems suck, literally of no value when I would use google maps (my friend has 07 model of the car I was looking at and the 3 year newer Nav is terrible)
2) New car dealers markup is +7%, used cars is way higher
3) It was bought at auction, so they definitely paid about or less than trade in value (10K)
4) This isnt game of thrones bud, nice try with Winter Is Coming like its the only AWD car in the world.
Just an odd experience overall. Not saying this place is a total scam (they had a lot of nice cars), but just do you do diligence on the car and dealership before you consider buying here. Check out the old reviews on google. read more